Originally posted by -Pr-
whose jobber aura?no he hasn't.
Originally posted by galactusischere
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/images/Imperiex02.jpg
Jober aura.. Supes has punched Imperiex with damage... Superman has to vibrate. MM goes into another dimension or something.
Superman is still faster, more experience, more durable, a little bit stronger, more creative, and a better fighter. All MM can rely on is his Phase+nearly the same strength. However, that does little when Superman can do the same+ more
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Doesn't work😂
So now everything that you don't like, or think is high enough is jobber aura?
Understand this, Superman can go intangible, and MM can't. He can phase to, which is different.Superman is still faster, more experience, more durable, a little bit stronger, more creative, and a better fighter. All MM can rely on is his Phase+nearly the same strength. However, that does little when Superman can do the same+ more
MM has telepathy strong enough to read the thoughts of everyone in a GALAXY. How is Supes going to resist that.
Anyways the thread has gotten off-topic.
Originally posted by galactusischere
MM has telepathy strong enough to read the thoughts of everyone in a GALAXY. How is Supes going to resist that.Anyways the thread has gotten off-topic.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, he doesn't
And it doesn't matter even if he does. Superman has proven many times that he can resist TP using his will power alone.
Wasn't Supes possesed by telepathy a while back?
think it was maxwell lord, not sure
Anyways back on WW Vs Apoc, what is going to stop Apoc from turning hes body parts into adamantium? im sure he has studied its properties before so with hes molecular manipulation it should be easy..
Originally posted by galactusischere
Wasn't Supes possesed by telepathy a while back?
think it was maxwell lord, not sureAnyways back on WW Vs Apoc, what is going to stop Apoc from turning hes body parts into adamantium? im sure he has studied its properties before so with hes molecular manipulation it should be easy..
As for the Topic, if this is normal level Apoc, Team 2 wins
Originally posted by xJLxKing
And I already explained to you why Max Lord accomplished what he did. That is something MM can't do directly.As for the Topic, if this is normal level Apoc, Team 2 wins
What is Diana going to do to Apoc when he turns hes body into adamantium? He has shown the ability to turn hes body parts into metals and stuff.
Originally posted by galactusischere
What is Diana going to do to Apoc when he turns hes body into adamantium? He has shown the ability to turn hes body parts into metals and stuff.
Also, turning into Metal and turning into Adamantium is different. So it doesn't mean he can. Even if he can, it's only you who believes Apoc will turn into Adamantium even though he has so many other choices.
Then there is the fact he won't do it the majority of the time
Originally posted by galactusischere
What is Diana going to do to Apoc when he turns hes body into adamantium? He has shown the ability to turn hes body parts into metals and stuff.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
There are plenty of times it could have benefited him to turn into Adamantium but didn't. Do you have proof he can or are you still just talking out of your ass?
Originally posted by galactusischere
Apoc has shown the ability to turn hes body parts into metal. He has also shown the ability to tuen others into stone. So assuming that he has studied adamantium he CAN turn into adamantium.
It sucks Apoc is written like such a tard. He has hyperbole statements and a supposed powerset that should make him a force. A force that could beat WW in a random encounter. The problem is he doesn't have the feats to back of his supposed power, while WW certainly does. Therefore, you kinda have to give WW the majority based on her feats and Apoc propensity to lose to lesser people like Wolverine lol.
Originally posted by carver9
This post made no sense.
Carver you really don't want to go there. Trust me. You don't. Otherwise we will have to get into all of your posts that contradict each other and that would take a very long time.
Originally posted by carver9
you didnt say anything to make me think that wonder woman is faster than northstar with the scans that I showed you. His combat speed>>>>Wonderwomans and scans proves this.
What are you talking about? I wasn't even responding to you. If you have a scan that shows Apoc's speed being greater than WW's, than by all means post it. Otherwise, we are still left with the following:
Speed: WW
Strength: WW
Equip: WW
Originally posted by SasaraixxI agree
Carver you really don't want to go there. Trust me. You don't. Otherwise we will have to get into all of your posts that contradict each other and that would take a very long time.What are you talking about? I wasn't even responding to you. If you have a scan that shows Apoc's speed being greater than WW's, than by all means post it. Otherwise, we are still left with the following:
Speed: WW
Strength: WW
Equip: WW
Originally posted by galactusischereThat's why he has never taken over the world, never defeated the Xmen, etc. Celestial Tech in the hands of the Celestials is uber. In Apocs hands, not so much.
Celestial tech>>>>>>>>>....>>>>>WW's gear
Let's do a comparison.
WW's Shields can stand up to combined skyfather.God level and even Abstract level blast.
What has Apocs Tech done on that level. Show me.
WW's Lasso has bound beings with ultimate power, Has Apoc ever did anything like that with Celestial Tech? Show me.
Her Tiara has easily Sliced Beings with Crazy Durability. Like Superman. Who has Apoc easily harmed with his celestial Tech that is anything like Superman.
Show me.
Originally posted by galactusischere
Apocalypse was enhanced by celestials..
Celestials>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........>>>>>>>>>>>....>>godsPlease don't bring Giganta into this, Apoc has restrained a Hulk that couldn't get any more madder(but still wayyy above class 100) with ease telling him that hes resistence is pointless.
Im not saying that the machine guns' bullets would get through her defenses all im saying is that they will keep her busy for a short while.
Keep in mind Apoc is alot more versatile than Diana and is more intellectual, he can think of a combo with hes matter manipulation(Apoc has also shown low level reality warping).
Ares is skyfather nowdays huh? When has he destroyed GALAXIES as side-effects of hes battles. Or when has he created a sword that obilirated an entire galaxy?
Even if Ares is skyfather(which he isn't) Loki gave SETH a good fight in Seth's realm(journey into the mystery 509-510 I think) hes realm WHILE WEAKEND. Seth was even scared of him. The next issue Seth defeated both Odin AND Enchantress(who were also weakend) OUTSIDE of hes realm.Loki has had reality warping feats as well.
Zeuodin also created a Loki vs Ares thread...
And don'y even bring Highfather and Jobberseid into this.
1. Please show me an instance of Apoc's enhancements displaying the power of Celestials. WW's armor is far above herself and Apoc.
2. Once again you don't seem to understand the conversation going on around you. Giganta was brought up because YOU mentioned Apoc being able to increase his size. It has absolutely nothing to do with a strength argument. An argument, that you have also lost b/c you cannot provide any feats that put his strength above hers. Also, that Hulk was not a fully enraged Hulk.
3. And Diana has the wisdom of Athena. His versatility here is useless when she can counter just about everything he can throw at her. We've already explained this to you. TP useless. Energy blasts will be deflected. Changing his size, she's dealt with that before. Mol manip won't work on her. Teleportation will not be an issue because she can move faster than he can teleport! Strength advantage to Diana. Bullets (I can't believe I even have to respond to this) Won't keep her occupied for a second. He can turn into adamantium if he wants, but he can be just as easily lasso'ed. What else is he going to throw at her?
4. Ares has always been a skyfather. There is no question about that. Remember when he kinda ruled over conflict and the dead. Yea . . . I don't know why you are trying to argue otherwise.
5. And Diana has gone up against the Queen of Fables. Apoc is going to have to do a lot better that "low-level reality warping" feats to work on Diana with the lasso.
6. Why are you talking about Loki? I'm too lazy to go back and re-read your posts.
*In theory** Apoc should be this incredibly powerful being, but his on panel depictions don't convery the power levels that you want to argue in this thread. If you mention him owning the X-men one more time, I'm going to fall out of my chair from laughter. Do you know how many heralds could do that as well? Most of the JLA for starters.
