Apocalypse and Thanos Vs. Wonder Woman and Prime

Started by xJLxKing19 pages

Originally posted by galactusischere
It is true. Supergirl is just as powerful as Power girl or Supes himself.
No way in hell is Diana going to restrain her that easy. SG had trained with Artemis.

She has only one definite FTL speed. Apoc was fighting a bunch of other heroes when he inreased the size of hes fist to hit a speeding QS without even moving. With that said im done arguing speed.

Teleportation>Speed.


WRONG!

Superman>>>>>>>>Supergirl, don't ever go there.
Superman admitted that her strength is comparable because she doesn't hold back, but he does. If he were like her, he would be leagues above her

Originally posted by xJLxKing
WRONG!

Superman>>>>>>>>Supergirl, don't ever go there.
Superman admitted that her strength is comparable because she doesn't hold back, but he does. If he were like her, he would be leagues above her

Yea, I know an all out going Supes would beat Kara. Supes even beat the "dark" SG saying that the only reason people though SG was superior to him was because of him holding back. But Supes isn't THAT much stronger than Kara. Twice as strong AT BEST.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Wrong. Wrong on all accounts. You still haven't satisfactorily responded to my arguments 5 or 6 pages ago. Apoc's other powers will not bother WW.

His omni-directional blast is not getting past the Aegis Shield. And unless you think that his blast is more powerful than the combined might of all the Olympian Gods, then it's not knocking her off her feet.

His ability to grow in size isn't going to trouble her, as she's dealt with foes like that in the past.

His TP is entirely useless.

You haven't provided any evidence that his strength is superior to hers.

The best you could do is show him combat Quicksilver's speed, a character who is not as fast as WW. She has a huge advantage over him. You can try to dismiss her feats as PIS, but it's not going to work. Even if you want to say that scan isn't FTL (I'm not conceding that), she has been shown to consistently move at speeds that would give Apc all types of trouble.

Diana is a being created by the Greek gods themselves. Good luck manipulating those molecules.

You somehow think that Apoc will start firing machine gun bullets at WW, and the will somehow A) get past her defenses and B) actually put her down. Neither of these is likely given her showings.

That leaves what, telekinesis?

And please, please tell me that you are not saying Apoc > Superman. It is far too early in the morning to deal with that nonesense.

I am not saying that she curbstomps him, but I really don't think he has enough advantages over her to take a lot of wins. WW has multiple one shot weapons and a huge speed advantage.

And when is the last time you actually read any Circe? I also don't like when people try to claim "Oh, well he beat Loki who is far superior to anyone WW has faced" typed arguments. WW has beaten Ares. Are we supposed to believe she is skyfather level?

This post made no sense. You didnt say anything to make me think that wonder woman is faster than northstar with the scans that I showed you. His combat speed>>>>Wonderwomans and scans proves this.

I put up one scan from a character that doesnt have 1% of the showings that wonder woman have and he has something saying that he can fight at the speed of light.

Originally posted by galactusischere
It is true. Supergirl is just as powerful as Power girl or Supes himself.
No way in hell is Diana going to restrain her that easy. SG had trained with Artemis.

She has only one definite FTL speed. Apoc was fighting a bunch of other heroes when he inreased the size of hes fist to hit a speeding QS without even moving. With that said im done arguing speed.

Teleportation>Speed.

Supergirl is ABOUT equal to a base level Superman. But his upper limits far exceed hers. Just to clarify.

SG trained with Artemis? Diana is Artemis' superior in combat.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Yea, I know an all out going Supes would beat Kara. Supes even beat the "dark" SG saying that the only reason people though SG was superior to him was because of him holding back. But Supes isn't THAT much stronger than Kara. Twice as strong AT BEST.

Yeah, maybe twice, or more as strong, but that's a lot.

I admit that Supergirl is nearly as strong as Wonderwoman, but the position that WW got her in is can be hard to get out of. You would need to be stronger then the person that could you in the lock

Originally posted by galactusischere
I've posted scans on him owning X-men, teleportation, and matter manipulation.
all you've managed to do is show speed feats.
WW's best feat is pulling the earth..with Supes and MM.

That strength feat is superior to all of the... wait. You never posted a strength feat. Because he doesn't have anything on par with that. Or Diana pulling MM out of a black hole, or knocking the wind out of Konvict... yeah.

Originally posted by Konton
Supergirl is ABOUT equal to a base level Superman. But his upper limits far exceed hers. Just to clarify.

SG trained with Artemis? Diana is Artemis' superior in combat.

Im just saying that SG isn't defenseless. Artemis is nearly as good as Diana. Kara has superior powers as well.

Nah. Diana is much more powerful. She's got the skill, energy output, strength, and her equipment is overkill.

Originally posted by Konton
Nah. Diana is much more powerful. She's got the skill, energy output, strength, and her equipment is overkill.

Shes not stronger than Kara. Nor faster. Kara's got Supes other powers as well such as HV which can come in handy. As I said Kara has trained with Artemis who is nearly as good as Diana.

Diana is obviously stronger than Kara. Did you not see that scan? lol
Diana would take Kara 10/10.

Originally posted by Konton
Diana is obviously stronger than Kara. Did you not see that scan? lol
Diana would take Kara 10/10.

Either PIS or Kara wasn't trying hard at all.

Martian Manhunter>Superman>>Kara zor-el>Wonder woman.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Either PIS or Kara wasn't trying hard at all.

Martian Manhunter>Superman>>Kara zor-el>Wonder woman.

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Originally posted by galactusischere
Either PIS or Kara wasn't trying hard at all.

Martian Manhunter>Superman>>Kara zor-el>Wonder woman.


LFMAO

SOOOO WRONG

Originally posted by Konton
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WW fanboys are just as bad as Wolverine and Hulk fanboys.

😕 When has J'onn been declared greater than Supes as far as physical strength goes?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
LFMAO

SOOOO WRONG

Martian Manhunter>Supes is right.
the only reason they show Supes being more powerful is because hes DC's flagship. Telepathy and intagibility FTW.

Your earlier statement though seemed to be ranking them purely on physical strength, though.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Martian Manhunter>Supes is right.
the only reason they show Supes being more powerful is because hes DC's flagship. Telepathy and intagibility FTW.

LFMAO

Intangibility?? SUPERMAN DOES THE SAME THING!!!
Telepathy????Show me where it worked on Superman! Answer is never, it only worked in about 2 cases and that's completely different. Max Lord had years to infiltrate Superman's mind, and there was other factors. Fact is, Superman fought a guy who was just as strong as him(if not strong as stated by Superman), and he had Telepathy that was far greater but it didn't help against Superman.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
LFMAO

Intangibility?? SUPERMAN DOES THE SAME THING!!!
Telepathy????Show me where it worked on Superman! Answer is never, it only worked in about 2 cases and that's completely different. Max Lord had years to infiltrate Superman's mind, and there was other factors. Fact is, Superman fought a guy who was just as strong as him(if not strong as stated by Superman), and he had Telepathy that was far greater but it didn't help against Superman.

Jober aura..
Supes has punched Imperiex with damage...

Superman has to vibrate. MM goes into another dimension or something.