Apocalypse and Thanos Vs. Wonder Woman and Prime

Started by Omega Vision19 pages

Originally posted by carver9
So do you think Superman or Wonder woman can fight faster than northstar?

Northstar can only go Mach 10 so yes, by an amazing degree actually.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
There's also that scan where Superman vibrates so fast that he turns intangible. Lets see if I can find it.

And how fast is that?

King hyperion did the same thing but got blitzed by mimic who was going 93000 mps

Originally posted by carver9
So do you think Superman or Wonder woman can fight faster than northstar?

They have on panel. Can you show Northstar fighting faster than them? I also recall Cyclops tagging North before.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Northstar can only go Mach 10 so yes, by an amazing degree actually.

I'm going to put up one scan, I want you to top that (I'll put up two). Show me something within the year 2000 and up. Wait a sec.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5899/supespeed6kt.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1954/08222005054558pm3oy.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2785/08222005054722pm5jq.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/superhearing.jpg

Fighting like a Speedster, depends on the Artist, really.
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5079/speedblitzor1.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/697/138506-1228691_560x867_super.jpg

Originally posted by Omega Vision
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5899/supespeed6kt.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1954/08222005054558pm3oy.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2785/08222005054722pm5jq.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/superhearing.jpg

You showed me nothing that indicates he can go the speed of light except space flight which rogue and iron man has. Iron man flew from the sun to earth in one panel. Rogue flew from the moon to the xmansioin in less than a second. This is what I want you to show me.

Here it SAY that northstar is fighting at the speed of light.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/xmen190005qg7.jpg

Here northstar punch someone a thousand times before he even reacted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_22.jpg

Here he punches sasquash a hundred times in less than a second.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight12-19.jpg

I'll be waiting for those scans of COMBAT feats showing that superman can fight at light speed. I have showed you a character that dont have many showings at all fighting at the speed of light and Superman Star in 3 comics a month and you cant show me one. TERRIBLE

I'm sorry hulk that I have to do this.

here hes punching hulk a hundred times before he reacts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF29.jpg

Northstar was fighting at a 100th of a second.

We already know she can attack at Super Speeds
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/16/1228635_787x1238.jpg

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/18/1228645_527x800.jpg

She's catching a light construct and returning it all at Superspeed

Spars with Superman at SUPERSPEED
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228669_960x1456.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228670_942x1492.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228672_928x1470.jpg

Fighting the God mercury who had already matched Hermes in a Speed battle who has also beaten Flash

Fighting Multiple Wonder Woman copies at guess What? Superspeed.
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228706_WW_V3_025_01/

She can catch an out of control Flash without much trouble
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/06/1229751_762x466.jpg

Fights the JLA at Superspeeds While Blind
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/15/1229833_842x1046.jpg

Moving at Super Speeds yet again to fight Amazo
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/08/20/1230198_600x826.jpg

She has to use Superspeed to Fight CM as she is remarking on his Super speed.
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/09/19/1230354_500x742.jpg

Fighting a trio of omacs at SUPER SPEED
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2150/12052005023937am6mu.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3072/12052005024107am0ig.jpg

Fighting yet again at Super Speeds

Originally posted by Zeuodin

We already know she can attack at Super Speeds
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/16/1228635_787x1238.jpg

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/18/1228645_527x800.jpg

She's catching a light construct and returning it all at Superspeed

Spars with Superman at SUPERSPEED
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228669_960x1456.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228670_942x1492.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228672_928x1470.jpg

Fighting the God mercury who had already matched Hermes in a Speed battle who has also beaten Flash

Fighting Multiple Wonder Woman copies at guess What? Superspeed.
http://www.picamatic.com/view/1228706_WW_V3_025_01/

She can catch an out of control Flash without much trouble
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/06/1229751_762x466.jpg

Fights the JLA at Superspeeds While Blind
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/15/1229833_842x1046.jpg

Moving at Super Speeds yet again to fight Amazo
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/08/20/1230198_600x826.jpg

She has to use Superspeed to Fight CM as she is remarking on his Super speed.
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/09/19/1230354_500x742.jpg

Fighting a trio of omacs at SUPER SPEED
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2150/12052005023937am6mu.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3072/12052005024107am0ig.jpg

Fighting yet again at Super Speeds

Love the character and if you ask me, she's one of the best on the jla. I've seen these scans along with all of the comics. You showed nothing in there that gives any kind of indication that can fight at the speed of light. I didnt see anything that would make me think she can even fight half the speed of light. I know she can keep up with Superman, hell going by showings, she's faster than him. I know she has speed, thats not the argument; the argument is her combat speed being at the speed of light.

Thanks for the scans though, I'm going to save some of them to my computer.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You don't get it. We go by feats first. We can't assume anything about Apoc's speed other than the fact he can dodge a table and tag Quicksilver, both well within Diana's ability.
As for his other powers they aren't that impressive. He's poorly written and though he should be a Herald level villain/team wrecker he barely manages to frighten a bunch of teenagers.

Lol even jobber apoc makes the X-men shit their pants.
Teleportation>speed. Energy projection>no-energy projection. Shield that can cover whle body>bracelets that can't protect her against an omni-directional blast. Telekenisis>no telekenisis. Celestial tech>WW's gear. Molecular manipulation>non-molecular manipulator.

Apoc BTW IS a team wrecker AND has reality manipulation feats.

Reality manipulation? Post them.

Originally posted by carver9
Love the character and if you ask me, she's one of the best on the jla. I've seen these scans along with all of the comics. You showed nothing in there that gives any kind of indication that can fight at the speed of light. I didnt see anything that would make me think she can even fight half the speed of light. I know she can keep up with Superman, hell going by showings, she's faster than him. I know she has speed, thats not the argument; the argument is her combat speed being at the speed of light.

Thanks for the scans though, I'm going to save some of them to my computer.


Zoom already moves at light speed. he was doing so the entire arc. She even remarks on his hits at LIGHT SPEED. So your point is kinda moot.

Wonder Woman would pummel Apoc and Prime tkos Thanos.

Enough of speed.
Debate they're other powers.

Originally posted by carver9
Northstar was fighting at a 100th of a second.

Where does it say that it's 100th of a second?

Originally posted by galactusischere
Lol even jobber apoc makes the X-men shit their pants.
Teleportation>speed. Energy projection>no-energy projection. Shield that can cover whle body>bracelets that can't protect her against an omni-directional blast. Telekenisis>no telekenisis. Celestial tech>WW's gear. Molecular manipulation>non-molecular manipulator.

Apoc BTW IS a team wrecker AND has reality manipulation feats.


False. Wonder Woman's shield covers her entire body. her shield is better than anything he can dish out. And he's not fast enough to get around her defenses. She doesn't need TK when she's got that lasso that can end the fight in less than a second. She's already shown she can catch Amazo mid punch. Amazo's Speed and Strength>>>>>>>>>Apocs.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Zoom already moves at light speed. he was doing so the entire arc. She even remarks on his hits at LIGHT SPEED. So your point is kinda moot.

No its not when Zoom was whipping her a**. She didnt react to zoom, she caught him off guard. She was getting punched around the world from zoom, it was a none fight. Wonder woman is a master strategist, along with Superman, let her fight the same zoom flash fight, the one that can carry 10 panels of convo in less than a second, she would get crushed.

She didnt keep up with him, she timed her attack just like she does with the flash all the time.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Enough of speed.
Debate they're other powers.

Apoc's other powers don't change anything really.