Originally posted by DeadlineLol, yeah he "owned" me, by ignoring multiple references and on panel evidence... pretty much like you .... "debate" if I remember correctly... nice to see you're still a jackass though. 😉
Hahah! I just went back to look at the debate Daredevil1 pretty much proved that Wolverin didn't have the mind of the werewolf and pretty much owned jinzin.Bats for the win.
W&S vs Batmen:
Strength - tie (S&W each being around 25x as strong as a peak human sounds about right to me)
Speed/reflexes - tie (top tier martial artists have been able to keep up with everyone involved during fights)
Combat Skill - tie (all are some of the best fighters/killers in their respective universes)
Durability - S&W
Stamina - S&W
Offensive armaments - S&W
Numbers - Batmen
Give all Batmen their standard equipment and I could see the numbers changing a little, but as it stands S&W take it 9/ or 10/10, imo.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea but I don't know about them being 25x as strong, especially with those numbers, Especially not Wolverine.
Yeah, but its really hard to quantify just how strong Wolverine, Sabertooth, or even Batman really is. 😬
Assuming, (and it is an assumption on my part), that Bruce Wayne is indeed peak human or thereabouts, then I'd think 25 of them should match up well against Wolverine or Sabertooth.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well peak human I'd imagine is 800-1000 or so lbs, that's why I was saying it seemed high for Logan.
Thats what they say in the handbooks in the comixs it could be a ton.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW👆
Um, Wolverine jumped him while he was distracted and he didn't have his shield. Hell still managed to get him with the sword eventhough its not his primary weapon.
Originally posted by Deadline
Um, Wolverine jumped him while he was distracted and he didn't have his shield. Hell still managed to get him with the sword eventhough its not his primary weapon.
1. Cap had his shield when Logan jumped him.
2. Wolverine had him dead to rights later AGAIN, but Cyke saved him. Steve had the shield then, too.
3. Logan was not in berserker rage when he got cut.
Fact is, Steve almost got killed. Nothing wrong with what BH said. And there's no need for reminding Hammer and me about the details.
Originally posted by FrothByte
wolverine having a strength class of 10 tons? nah, i don't think so. he's not in spidey's league strength wise.
I'm just going by his best strength feats (and there are a good number of them). To be honest, writers/artists always seem to depict characters' strength higher than what they are officially. Prime examples are Captain America and Batman who do things no "peak human" could ever achieve, imo. Also, I think 10 tons is a little low for Spidey. 😉
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1. Cap had his shield when Logan jumped him.
True but he used his sword to defend himself. Cap is better with his shield but he wasnt beserker then.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
2. Wolverine had him dead to rights later AGAIN, but Cyke saved him. Steve had the shield then, too.
True but that doesnt change the fact that the first time that happened Cap was taken completely by suprise because he was stamping on nuke. The only reason why that happened was because of his leg eventhough its not impossible I wouldnt expect Wolverine to fight Cap like that under normal circumstances.
Eventhough I think a beserk Wolverine would kill Cap you only have one legit example of Wolverine killing Cap that quick.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
3. Logan was not in berserker rage when he got cut.
No he wasnt but he was when he jumped him the second time.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Fact is, Steve almost got killed. Nothing wrong with what BH said. And there's no need for reminding Hammer and me about the details.
Yeah I do especially when one those examples had circumstances. Fact is that doesnt prove that a beserk Wolverine can kill 50 Batmans. Also Cap held his own against a beserk Wolverine before.
Originally posted by TheKahnIn terms of lifting feats, I wouldn't say they are that unachievable, humans have done some crazy things too.
I'm just going by his best strength feats (and there are a good number of them). To be honest, writers/artists always seem to depict characters' strength higher than what they are officially. Prime examples are Captain America and Batman who do things no "peak human" could ever achieve, imo. Also, I think 10 tons is a little low for Spidey. 😉
Originally posted by TheKahn
I'm just going by his best strength feats (and there are a good number of them). To be honest, writers/artists always seem to depict characters' strength higher than what they are officially. Prime examples are Captain America and Batman who do things no "peak human" could ever achieve, imo. Also, I think 10 tons is a little low for Spidey. 😉
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good to see you again, partner. 😄