Thor vs Orion in strict skilled H2H combat.

Started by Zeuodin10 pages

Originally posted by carver9
WWH or Lobo would physically CRUSH orion.
Orion has stood up to a sun amped Superman. Where do you get that they would crush him? Orion is stronger than Sentry and Sentry stood up pretty well to WWH. Orion has also stood up to Superman and Superman has beaten Lobo and vice versa.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Orion has stood up to a sun amped Superman. Where do you get that they would crush him? Orion is stronger than Sentry and Sentry stood up pretty well to WWH. Orion has also stood up to Superman and Superman has beaten Lobo and vice versa.

Not sure the upper limit of Sentry's strength has been established. Please correct me if I missed it and are wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by TheKahn
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We've been down that road before. You ignore any scans given to you as proof and continue to pester whoever you are debating with baseless claims. No thanks.

I'll be back with planetary destroying scans. You need help on clarrifying the difference.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Orion has stood up to a sun amped Superman. Where do you get that they would crush him? Orion is stronger than Sentry and Sentry stood up pretty well to WWH. Orion has also stood up to Superman and Superman has beaten Lobo and vice versa.

LOL, I cant believe you think orion could beat wwh physically.

Originally posted by carver9
I'll be back with planetary destroying scans. You need help on clarrifying the difference.

The difference in what? I've never said that Marvel characters can't destroy planets. Several can in fact such as SS, Thanos, Gladiator, etc...

What I said was that DC seems to have more for the simple reason that nearly everyone top tier strength character in DC is usually compared in some way to Superman - who has repeatedly shown himself capable of destroying/moving moons and planets of various sizes. Thus anyone who is said to have near his strength (Orion, Captain Marvel, Black Adam, WW, etc) should be able of similar feats. Throw in their Rogues who are side to be of a similar strength level and you have an a mind boggling number of people who can destroy planets.

Originally posted by TheKahn
The difference in what? I've never said that Marvel characters can't destroy planets. Several can in fact such as SS, Thanos, Gladiator, etc...

What I said was that DC seems to have [b]more for the simple reason that nearly everyone top tier strength character in DC is usually compared in some way to Superman - who has repeatedly shown himself capable of destroying/moving moons and planets of various sizes. Thus anyone who is said to have near his strength (Orion, Captain Marvel, Black Adam, WW, etc) should be able of similar feats. Throw in their Rogues who are side to be of a similar strength level and you have an a mind boggling number of people who can destroy planets. [/B]

You showed me Superman flying through a moon that was still in contact. None of your scans was planetary, NONE.

This is planetary destroying feats.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4829/stormbreaker41415fl8.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1236/stormbreaker41617ln0.jpg

This is planetary.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img367.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld1wl5.jpg/
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld2dh8.jpg/

This is planet moving.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh2.jpg

Superman/Wonder woman/Martian manhunter/Orion has none of these under his belt so stop saying that they are planet movers/destroyers

Originally posted by carver9
You showed me Superman flying through a moon that was still in contact. None of your scans was planetary, NONE.

This is planetary destroying feats.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4829/stormbreaker41415fl8.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1236/stormbreaker41617ln0.jpg

This is planetary.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img367.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld1wl5.jpg/
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld2dh8.jpg/

This is planet moving.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh2.jpg

Superman/Wonder woman/Martian manhunter/Orion has none of these under his belt so stop saying that they are planet movers/destroyers

Check out their respect threads (though I doubt you will), I've already given you scans before and you ignore them like any good fanboy would. Debating you is not enjoyable to enlightening in the least. If others want to do so, they are welcomed to it.

Originally posted by carver9
You showed me Superman flying through a moon that was still in contact. None of your scans was planetary, NONE.

This is planetary destroying feats.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4829/stormbreaker41415fl8.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1236/stormbreaker41617ln0.jpg

This is planetary.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img367.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld1wl5.jpg/
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld2dh8.jpg/

This is planet moving.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh2.jpg

Superman/Wonder woman/Martian manhunter/Orion has none of these under his belt so stop saying that they are planet movers/destroyers

I didn't see any indication of what size those planets where. A planet can be smaller than a moon.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I didn't see any indication of what size those planets where. A planet can be smaller than a moon.

Don't use logic on him. It only makes him grow stronger.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Check out their respect threads (though I doubt you will), I've already given you scans before and you ignore them like any good fanboy would. Debating you is not enjoyable to enlightening in the least. If others want to do so, they are welcomed to it.

So you showed me a planet destroying feat or did you show me zod and superman fighting on a planet that they was connected too?

Originally posted by TheKahn
Don't use logic on him. It only makes him grow stronger.

LOL, I'll be waiting for those feats. You showed NOTHING that indicates anyone on the jla being able to destroy a planet.

Originally posted by carver9
So you showed me a planet destroying feat or did you show me zod and superman fighting on a planet that they was connected too?
Since when do DC characters go around destroying innocent plantets?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I didn't see any indication of what size those planets where. A planet can be smaller than a moon.

They are planetary feats, thats all that matter. Each of them have under there belts that they can and have destroyed a planet.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, I'll be waiting for those feats. You showed NOTHING that indicates anyone on the jla being able to destroy a planet.
If one were to hurl a mountain at a planet, the planet would be destroyed. Planet Killer. All life would die. Any number of JLAers can do that.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Since when do DC characters go around destroying innocent plantets?

So when does superman go around flying through moons thats connected to a planet.

Plenty of heros destroyed planets, barren planets but planets.

Thor
beta ray bill
Silver surfer
etc....

Originally posted by carver9
They are planetary feats, thats all that matter. Each of them have under there belts that they can and have destroyed a planet.
And yet Gladiator couldn't take down Colossus easily. Didn't Thor have a hard time with Nefaria who Got pwned By Vision who slammed him with just 90 tons of weight? My you forget the average effect don't you.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
If one were to hurl a mountain at a planet, the planet would be destroyed. Planet Killer. All life would die. Any number of JLAers can do that.

I never said that they couldnt pick up a mountain. I want to see some evidence that they have planet leveling strength like the scans that I showed.

Would you like for me to post some more planet level power from different people because I dont mind.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
And yet Gladiator couldn't take down Colossus easily. Didn't Thor have a hard time with Nefaria who Got pwned By Vision who slammed him with just 90 tons of weight? My you forget the average effect don't you.

LOL, gladiator couldnt take out colossus easy? The fight didnt even last two panels and gladiator stood there and let colossus throw boulders on the top of his head and he smiled during the entire fight. It was clear that he was playing and KNEW colossus wasnt a threat.

Thor holds back and we seen what a none holding back thor does since he DID destroy a moon in one of his latest fights.

All of that still does not take away from the fact that thor and gladiator have planetary destroying strength. Hell, gladiator soloed a feat where he moved an asteroid that was the size of a planet.

Originally posted by khazra
Does orion hav any combat skill feats? Thor atleast kept up with cap whilst depowered...

Yes, Orion once nearly defeated the "Greatest Martial Artist in the Universe". And this is while in a pacifist state. Valkyrie speed blitzed Orion and the Forever People were "SHOCKED". Saying something like, "Orion would have never let her get 20 yards of him". Or something to that effect. Orion nearly defeated her, even in a pacafist state, until Highfather interrupted the battle.

I don't get how people say Thor is a superior fighter, when Orion has proved that he specializes in all types of warfare and knows every form of armed combat. Similar to Karate Kid.

And on top of that, has thousands upon thousands of years of experience. This is Orions fight here.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH or Lobo would physically CRUSH orion.

No, he would not. Orion's already faced healers and done quite well. Hell, he has the ability to not even get hit. As in the Mother Box phasing him. Physically, Superman has knocked Lobo out and Orion is his peer.