Thor vs Orion in strict skilled H2H combat.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yes, Orion once nearly defeated the "Greatest Martial Artist in the Universe". And this is while in a pacifist state. Valkyrie speed blitzed Orion and the Forever People were "SHOCKED". Saying something like, "Orion would have never let her get 20 yards of him". Or something to that effect. Orion nearly defeated her, even in a pacafist state, until Highfather interrupted the battle.

I don't get how people say Thor is a superior fighter, when Orion has proved that he specializes in all types of warfare and knows every form of armed combat. Similar to Karate Kid.

And on top of that, has thousands upon thousands of years of experience. This is Orions fight here.

I agree with this, orion is taking this fight.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
No, he would not. Orion's already faced healers and done quite well. Hell, he has the ability to not even get hit. As in the Mother Box phasing him. Physically, Superman has knocked Lobo out and Orion is his peer.

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Didnt Orion fail to break out of a titanium box that firestorm put on him?

Originally posted by carver9
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Didnt Orion fail to break out of a titanium box that firestorm put on him?

What's your point? That was really bad PIS.

Originally posted by carver9
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Didnt Orion fail to break out of a titanium box that firestorm put on him?

No, he eventually broke free. A similar situation happened in Simonson's run and Orion INSTANTLY broke free. So, it was a low feat for him.

Here is the situation I was talking about.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/9e9c118b.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/1fa0f0c6.jpg

Here is a healing feat from a MB: after Orion is hit in EVERY fatal area of his body and thrown into a Fire pit (which is known 10x hotter than the Sun itself, Orion heals)

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/3d1a3edf.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/2714aedf.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/10f93fce.jpg

Everyone is surprised, because he should have been dead.

EDIT: Sorry, the MB only healed his face, but this shows Orion has regenerate abilities of his own.

Originally posted by carver9
You showed me Superman flying through a moon that was still in contact. None of your scans was planetary, NONE.

This is planetary destroying feats.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4829/stormbreaker41415fl8.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1236/stormbreaker41617ln0.jpg

This is planetary.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet3.jpg

This is planetary.

http://img367.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld1wl5.jpg/
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld2dh8.jpg/

This is planet moving.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh2.jpg

Superman/Wonder woman/Martian manhunter/Orion has none of these under his belt so stop saying that they are planet movers/destroyers

MM has beaten Ultraman. We already know Ultraman can bust planets. Hell, he's held the infinite book in Superman 3d.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic158.jpg

MM knocks the shit out of Superboy Prime. A planet Killer.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic231.jpg

Captain Atom Destroys a universe using his power over the Quantum Field( far more than planet Busting power)
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Captain%20Atom/Cap%20scans/captainatom056199yp.jpg

Captain Marvel And Superman lift a book with Infinite Mass. Can't get any stronger than That
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/?action=view&current=SupermanBeyond01Page024.jpg

John Almost recreates an Entire Star System.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6261/greenlantern02614d.jpg

Hal Jordan Literally pulling an entire world back together
http://img38.imagehaven.net/img.php?id=QVEH9AMF0H_Trinity049014.jpg

Oblivion is Kyle Rayner's ID. The dark side of him. And it's all Kyle's power
He creates a sun
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0623/01-Green_Lantern_Circle_of_Fire_29

Creates a quasar that is eating the matter that holds the universe together
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0522/Circle_of_Fire_2_27

Kyle Rayner Recreates Pluto
http://a.imagehost.org/0051/pg0013im.jpg

Kyle Holds the Big bang in place or what ever it was Imperiex was doing
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0702/Superman_v2_173_pg14

Light Ray, Another JLAer, Creates a Supersun out of nothing.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods03-08.jpg

Orion is the only guy on the JLA able to injure the Abstractual being, Star Conquerer
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02313.jpg

Superman holds a black hole in his hand.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/415/blackholejq6.jpg

Superman Destroys a moon which by Saturn's standards can be a planet the size of pluto
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1534/satsoontb5.jpg

Superman Pushes a ship so massive and heavy that it negated the Earth and the moon's gravity.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/Supermanpush2.jpg

Heat Vision is enough power on it's own to move a planet.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/Supermanpush2.jpg

Wonder Woman EASILY holds up a planet killer asteroid.

So what do you mean the JLA lacks anyone with power to destroy a planet? All of these feats clearly show they have the power to do that and more.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Here is the situation I was talking about.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/9e9c118b.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/1fa0f0c6.jpg

Here is a healing feat from a MB: after Orion is hit in EVERY fatal area of his body and thrown into a Fire pit (which is known 10x hotter than the Sun itself, Orion heals)

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/3d1a3edf.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/2714aedf.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/10f93fce.jpg

Everyone is surprised, because he should have been dead.

EDIT: Sorry, the MB only healed his face, but this shows Orion has regenerate abilities of his own.

I know he does but its no where CLOSE to what WWH is capable of healing and WWH is stronger than orion. The only thing orion has over wwh is fighting skills and thats not enough.

Originally posted by carver9
I know he does but its no where CLOSE to what WWH is capable of healing and WWH is stronger than orion. The only thing orion has over wwh is fighting skills and thats not enough.

Please prove that WWH is stronger than Orion instead of just saying it over and over.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
MM has beaten Ultraman. We already know Ultraman can bust planets. Hell, he's held the infinite book in Superman 3d.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic158.jpg

MM knocks the shit out of Superboy Prime. A planet Killer.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic231.jpg

Captain Atom Destroys a universe using his power over the Quantum Field( far more than planet Busting power)
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Captain%20Atom/Cap%20scans/captainatom056199yp.jpg

Captain Marvel And Superman lift a book with Infinite Mass. Can't get any stronger than That
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/?action=view&current=SupermanBeyond01Page024.jpg

John Almost recreates an Entire Star System.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6261/greenlantern02614d.jpg

Hal Jordan Literally pulling an entire world back together
http://img38.imagehaven.net/img.php?id=QVEH9AMF0H_Trinity049014.jpg

Oblivion is Kyle Rayner's ID. The dark side of him. And it's all Kyle's power
He creates a sun
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0623/01-Green_Lantern_Circle_of_Fire_29

Creates a quasar that is eating the matter that holds the universe together
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0522/Circle_of_Fire_2_27

Kyle Rayner Recreates Pluto
http://a.imagehost.org/0051/pg0013im.jpg

Kyle Holds the Big bang in place or what ever it was Imperiex was doing
http://h.imagehost.org/view/0702/Superman_v2_173_pg14

Light Ray, Another JLAer, Creates a Supersun out of nothing.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods03-08.jpg

Orion is the only guy on the JLA able to injure the Abstractual being, Star Conquerer
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02313.jpg

Superman holds a black hole in his hand.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/415/blackholejq6.jpg

Superman Destroys a moon which by Saturn's standards can be a planet the size of pluto
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1534/satsoontb5.jpg

Superman Pushes a ship so massive and heavy that it negated the Earth and the moon's gravity.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/Supermanpush2.jpg

Heat Vision is enough power on it's own to move a planet.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/Supermanpush2.jpg

Wonder Woman EASILY holds up a planet killer asteroid.

So what do you mean the JLA lacks anyone with power to destroy a planet? All of these feats clearly show they have the power to do that and more.

😕 Thanos faught galactus and blew him out of his ship, I guess that make Thanos a solar system/Universe buster. I'm not going to respond to your post because you are going to think that I'm discrediting your feats but you should be able to see the difference between the scans.

I consider you to be a good debator/tacticle debator with a lot of knowledge on these character so PLEASE tell me you see the difference between these scans because if not I'm going to start posting my scans of statements saying that gladiator is the strongest being in the universe.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Please [b]prove that WWH is stronger than Orion instead of just saying it over and over. [/B]

Ok, give me 15 minutes, have something important to do.

Originally posted by carver9
😕 Thanos faught galactus and blew him out of his ship, I guess that make Thanos a solar system/Universe buster. I'm not going to respond to your post because you are going to think that I'm discrediting your feats but you should be able to see the difference between the scans.

I consider you to be a good debator/tacticle debator with a lot of knowledge on these character so PLEASE tell me you see the difference between these scans because if not I'm going to start posting my scans of statements saying that gladiator is the strongest being in the universe.

Thanos did NOTHING to galactus. He didn't harm him in anyway. There were other scans. Of super suns being created. Black Holes being held. That is all>>>>Planet busting power. you choose to ignore those.

Originally posted by carver9
😕 Thanos faught galactus and blew him out of his ship, I guess that make Thanos a solar system/Universe buster. I'm not going to respond to your post because you are going to think that I'm discrediting your feats but you should be able to see the difference between the scans.

I consider you to be a good debator/tacticle debator with a lot of knowledge on these character so PLEASE tell me you see the difference between these scans because if not I'm going to start posting my scans of statements saying that gladiator is the strongest being in the universe.

Like I said...

Originally posted by TheKahn
Check out their respect threads (though I doubt you will), I've already given you scans before and you ignore them like any good fanboy would. Debating you is not enjoyable to enlightening in the least. If others want to do so, they are welcomed to it.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Like I said...

You misenterpreted the scans you put up not knowing the meaning of the story.

The only thing I agree with Carver is WWHulk is stronger than Orion. But not amped Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, give me 15 minutes, have something important to do.

Its been over an hour.... 🙄

Yet I see no proof that WWH is stronger than Orion. I'm shocked. 😐

Originally posted by TheKahn
Its been over an hour.... 🙄

Yet I see no [b]proof that WWH is stronger than Orion. I'm shocked. 😐 [/B]

I give WW Hulk or pretty much any Savage Hulk against even Thor. WW Hulk simply has more strength feats than Orion. Though Simonson and Byrne have stated Orion is superior in strength compared to Superman.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Its been over an hour.... 🙄

Yet I see no [b]proof that WWH is stronger than Orion. I'm shocked. 😐 [/B]

I just got back, give me 5 minutes, dont go anywhere. Now when I post these scans, please dont put up scans of who orion fought, I want to see strength feats.

Originally posted by carver9
I just got back, give me 5 minutes, dont go anywhere. Now when I post these scans, please dont put up scans of who orion fought, I want to see strength feats.

scans of him hurting high level beings are considered strength feats.

Originally posted by -Pr-
scans of him hurting high level beings are considered strength feats.

So I can put up a scan of the beyonder stating that hulk have limitless strength and him backing away from the hulk?

Or him punching through a time stream which would be>>>>>>any feat orion has done his entire career.