X-Man vs Sentry

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Originally posted by Warlord
we're saying the same thing here man.
An omega level TP hasn't ever fought Sentry so the outcome cannot be guarantied. IMO TP won't do much, but it remains to be seen
Oh.

I figured you considered Xavier and Emma omega class telepaths. Recently they have been addressed as so.

Originally posted by id369
Oh.

I figured you considered Xavier and Emma omega class telepaths. Recently they have been addressed as so.

no, Nate is clearly above them....not to mention his TK

Originally posted by TheKahn
Yeah, I don't think the Sentry's mind is something any telepath wants to muck around with. Emma nearly died from her attempt and was only saved from the Void thanks to her secondary mutation.

Emma almost died? Since when? She had to stay in Diamond Form so the Void wouldn't have access to her Telepathy.

At the moment Sentry is possessed by the Void so he's able to pull of things he's never been able to in the past.

Mastermind and Venus the siren from AoA have both royally mind f*cked him.

As for whether Nate can take this, I'm pretty sure he could take non-Void possessed Sentry. Whether he can take the deus ex machina that is the Void powered Sentry well you'll just have to wait for Dark X-Men to finish.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Emma almost died? Since when? She had to stay in Diamond Form so the Void wouldn't have access to her Telepathy.

At the moment Sentry is possessed by the Void so he's able to pull of things he's never been able to in the past.

Mastermind and Venus the siren from AoA have both royally mind f*cked him.

As for whether Nate can take this, I'm pretty sure he could take non-Void possessed Sentry. Whether he can take the deus ex machina that is the Void powered Sentry well you'll just have to wait for Dark X-Men to finish.

mastermind had him in a bed depowered by the Crazed General and Venus uses mystical attacks so the origin is not TP

Originally posted by Warlord
mastermind had him in a bed depowered by the Crazed General and Venus uses mystical attacks so the origin is not TP

How exactly was he depowered when Mastermind used the Sentrys psionic abilities to make the entire world forget about him. It was explained that the Sentry never trained for that kind of attack. And Venus (Who is not the real Aphrodite) explained that her powers are mind control/telepathic recently. In both those instances Bob was at the helm, Dark Avengers 6 is when he embraced the Void to destroy a bunch of Atlanteans. The Void is in control now as shown in the art of the Exodus one-shot.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
How exactly was he depowered when Mastermind used the Sentrys psionic abilities to make the entire world forget about him. It was explained that the Sentry never trained for that kind of attack. And Venus (Who is not the real Aphrodite) explained that her powers are mind control/telepathic recently.

he was clearly drugged in a table by the Crazed General when the Mastermind used his powers shown in New Avengers.

Venus powers work like TP but are magical in nature as is she a mystical creature
http://marvel.com/universe/Venus

i wonder if it is gonna be sentry before he fought MM or after

Originally posted by Warlord
[B]he was clearly drugged in a table by the Crazed General when the Mastermind used his powers shown in New Avengers.

Are you saying that drugs can affect the Sentry? I don't recall them saying he was drugged I recall him being groggy but that was after Mastermind f*cked with his mind so that he makes anyone he encounters forget about him. And from Jason Wyngarde and the Generals conversation he certainly did have his powers. Emma Frost tells him that it's not his fault that he didn't train his mind for that kind of attack.

Venus powers work like TP but are magical in nature as is she a mystical creature
http://marvel.com/universe/Venus

I'll give you that.

Originally posted by bbrem123
i wonder if it is gonna be sentry before he fought MM or after

Order of event dictate its after MM. Making X-Man victory over Senty that much sweeter. stoned

Originally posted by id369
Order of event dictate its after MM. Making X-Man victory over Senty that much sweeter. stoned

Are you sure? It's post-Utopia definitely but that DA issue leads into Siege doesn't it?

Not that it matters it's still Void-Sentry and if solicits are correct

Spoiler:
they all get shoved in Normans mind by Nate
.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Are you saying that drugs can affect the Sentry? I don't recall them saying he was drugged I recall him being groggy but that was after Mastermind f*cked with his mind so that he makes anyone he encounters forget about him. And from Jason Wyngarde and the Generals conversation he certainly did have his powers. Emma Frost tells him that it's not his fault that he didn't train his mind for that kind of attack.

I don't know what the general used on him but it was clearly stated that the Sentry wasn't fully operational lying there in the General's bed. If the mastermind could just mindrape him why go all the trouble and have him bidden in a bed instead of confronting him stright.

Sentry is not experienced in TP that's very true but being susceptible in mental attacks is far from being the case IMO.

We can wait and see what the Dark Xmen issue reveals

Originally posted by Warlord
[B]I don't know what the general used on him but it was clearly stated that the Sentry wasn't fully operational lying there in the General's bed. If the mastermind could just mindrape him why go all the trouble and have him bidden in a bed instead of confronting him stright.

I think you're getting confused. That "bed scene" is after Masterminds mind raping is done he tells the General job done at the beginning of the coversation. That place looks more like a underground tunnel where they psychically ambushed him then a bed btw. Sentry is waking up groggy after the incident.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Are you sure? It's post-Utopia definitely but that DA issue leads into Siege doesn't it?

Not that it matters it's still Void-Sentry and if solicits are correct

Spoiler:
they all get shoved in Normans mind by Nate
.

yea i thought it was before...i didnt kno it was the order they came out

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I think you're getting confused. That "bed scene" is after Masterminds mind raping is done he tells the General job done at the beginning of the coversation. That place looks more like a underground tunnel where they psychically ambushed him then a bed btw. Sentry is waking up groggy after the incident.

My bad then
could that be that the Mastermind casually entered his mind and messed him up?
hmmmm... something both emma and xavier couldn't do.

anyway that was a much different sentry than the current.

Let's wait and see what will happen now...

Originally posted by Warlord
My bad then
could that be that the Mastermind casually entered his mind and messed him up?
hmmmm... something both emma and xavier couldn't do.

anyway that was a much different sentry than the current.

Let's wait and see what will happen now...

Well the Void has been able to tap into abilities Sentry doesn't even know of so that would explain that.

Originally posted by bbrem123
yea i thought it was before...i didnt kno it was the order they came out

To be honest I don't think it'll be the one after the MM incident either.

still the sentry shown in DA since book 1 is something between void and sentry...I hope the character reaches a final status

Originally posted by Warlord
so you suggest cyclops > the void?

No.

Awww Shit. Its D-Day.

Knowing Marvel, they will not deliver throw down.

What the **** is D-day? Wednesday?
Seriously? 😬

nate my boy will take the win... he will sh@# stomp sentry and show him what a real power house is...Nate is closer to being an abstract being then sentry could ever hope to be.. not saying nate is an abstract being just saying he has the potential to reach that level.. imoho