Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I don't understand your hate. He did a great work with FC and All Star Superman (one of the best comics imo). I'm not very fond of his Batman but anyway, he is good for a surprise.
Okay, I'm going to lay down this on the table once and for all. The Next person telling me why I hate Morrison is a friggin IDIOT Over prentious MORRISON FANBOY!
I.....
...DON'T HATE GRANT MORRISON
I do whoever think IN MY OWN OPINION that he is overrated, overhyped, and not a very good writer for Batman.
Sure! He was a good writer in THE PAST with his previous works. But again...that was in the past.
You like his new works?! Good for you.
I don't...
That should be clear enough.
Some of you don't tolerate the opinions of others whom find Morrison to be bad. Fine! So why should fans like me....tolerate others claiming he's the greatest comic book writer ever?!
If this wasn't clear enough. Oh, well, tough! I'm not repeating myself.
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Okay, I'm going to lay down this on the table once and for all. The Next person telling me why I hate Morrison is a friggin IDIOT Over prentious MORRISON FANBOY!I.....
DON'T HATE GRANT MORRISON
I do whoever think IN MY OWN OPINION that he is overrated, overhyped, and not a very good writer for Batman.
Sure! He was a good writer in THE PAST with his previous works. But again...that was in the past.
You like his new works?! Good for you.
I don't...
That should be clear enough.
Some of you don't tolerate the opinions of others whom find Morrison to be bad. Fine! So why should fans like me....tolerate others claiming he's the greatest comic book writer ever?!
If this wasn't clear enough. Oh, well, tough! I'm not repeating myself.
You are quite sensitive, aren't you... though looking at you sig... hmm, sorry i did not mean to discriminate you or your sexual orientation.
Anyway, I don't knew you so you post seemed to be full of hate. A misunderstanding if you wish, nothing more nothing less. And you are right, Morrison isnt the best writer out there. Jeph Loeb is the King.
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Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Okay, I'm going to lay down this on the table once and for all. The Next person telling me why I hate Morrison is a friggin IDIOT Over prentious MORRISON FANBOY!I.....
...DON'T HATE GRANT MORRISON
I do whoever think IN MY OWN OPINION that he is overrated, overhyped, and not a very good writer for Batman.
Sure! He was a good writer in THE PAST with his previous works. But again...that was in the past.
You like his new works?! Good for you.
I don't...
That should be clear enough.
Some of you don't tolerate the opinions of others whom find Morrison to be bad. Fine! So why should fans like me....tolerate others claiming he's the greatest comic book writer ever?!
If this wasn't clear enough. Oh, well, tough! I'm not repeating myself.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I've yet to find one sophisticated comics reader who has come up with a good argument for why Morrison isn't a good writer. Personal preferences aside his style is both inventive and original and he's a head above the majority of active writers right now.
Here, Here !!!!!
Even literary gods such a Moore and Miller have had their flops.
I for one have enjoyed all the trades from Morisson's batman run. I don't know about this whole "getting the character" cos I've never read that much Batman. I loved how he was portrayed during Morisson's J.L.A. and I love what he's doing with him now. Once in a while charavcters have to be taken in a new direction, or they run the danger of becoming over repetitive and sterile. Sure this may not be as spectacular a re-invigoration as Robinson's Starman, Bendis's Daredevil, Brubakers Captain AMmerica, Johns J.S.A., buts it still substantially more readable than a lot of the crap being published. I've always preferred Superman, and many of the other J.L.A. super powered characters over Batman, (Infact I wouldn't be reading batman if it wasn't for Morisson) but his character devlopment and storylines are ahell of a lot more sophistivcated than any of the other members books. Im always re-searching what epic stuff is happening to the likes of Supes, G.L. and Flash, but their books are of a different kind. They satisfy the Lord of the Rings, Doctor Who and Dragon Ball Z part of my psyche - were as Batman, satisfies the part that loves Man on Fire, Bourne Identity, Blade Runner and James Bond. Its not the same kind of fiction. There both forms of escapism, but they are work on differnt levels; There's having one too many drinks at the pub, and then there's tripping on ACID at hippy festival listening to Sigur Ross.
Moore has had flops? I'm curious as to what they are.
People just need to calm down with the Morrison hate, in all seriousness. We at least agree that Morrison is brilliant, Cart. That's something we have in common.
It's strange how people preach tolerance, yet they prowl this forum ready to make a derogatory comment about writers and characters. They'll make madly agitated comments, but then when you ask them where the hate comes from, they get all sensitive and deny everything.
If you don't hate Grant Morrison, then aggressively talking about how crappy he is and how much of a hack he is probably isn't the best course of action. I suppose me and you probably agree there, Cart?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIf you don't hate Grant Morrison, then aggressively talking about how crappy he is and how much of a hack he is probably isn't the best course of action. I suppose me and you probably agree there, Cart?
-AC
Indeed, nicely put.
The whole overly aggressive "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ****ING DISAGREE WITH ME COS THAT PISSES ME OFF, AND THE FORUM FORBIDS THAT" stance, is really getting boring as well as ludicrously retarded.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Here, Here !!!!!Even literary gods such a Moore and Miller have had their flops.
I for one have enjoyed all the trades from Morisson's batman run. I don't know about this whole "getting the character" cos I've never read that much Batman. I loved how he was portrayed during Morisson's J.L.A. and I love what he's doing with him now. Once in a while charavcters have to be taken in a new direction, or they run the danger of becoming over repetitive and sterile. Sure this may not be as spectacular a re-invigoration as Robinson's Starman, Bendis's Daredevil, Brubakers Captain AMmerica, Johns J.S.A., buts it still substantially more readable than a lot of the crap being published. I've always preferred Superman, and many of the other J.L.A. super powered characters over Batman, (Infact I wouldn't be reading batman if it wasn't for Morisson) but his character devlopment and storylines are ahell of a lot more sophistivcated than any of the other members books. Im always re-searching what epic stuff is happening to the likes of Supes, G.L. and Flash, but their books are of a different kind. They satisfy the Lord of the Rings, Doctor Who and Dragon Ball Z part of my psyche - were as Batman, satisfies the part that loves Man on Fire, Bourne Identity, Blade Runner and James Bond. Its not the same kind of fiction. There both forms of escapism, but they are work on differnt levels; There's having one too many drinks at the pub, and then there's tripping on ACID at hippy festival listening to Sigur Ross.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Moore has had flops? I'm curious as to what they are.People just need to calm down with the Morrison hate, in all seriousness. We at least agree that Morrison is brilliant, Cart. That's something we have in common.
It's strange how people preach tolerance, yet they prowl this forum ready to make a derogatory comment about writers and characters. They'll make madly agitated comments, but then when you ask them where the hate comes from, they get all sensitive and deny everything.
If you don't hate Grant Morrison, then aggressively talking about how crappy he is and how much of a hack he is probably isn't the best course of action. I suppose me and you probably agree there, Cart?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Moore has had flops? I'm curious as to what they are.People just need to calm down with the Morrison hate, in all seriousness. We at least agree that Morrison is brilliant, Cart. That's something we have in common.
It's strange how people preach tolerance, yet they prowl this forum ready to make a derogatory comment about writers and characters. They'll make madly agitated comments, but then when you ask them where the hate comes from, they get all sensitive and deny everything.
If you don't hate Grant Morrison, then aggressively talking about how crappy he is and how much of a hack he is probably isn't the best course of action. I suppose me and you probably agree there, Cart?
-AC
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
If anyone doesn't "get" Batman its Frank Miller. He once "got" Batman but he lost it of late and IMO Morrison took the Bat-Mantle from him.One could argue practically everything Moore has written in the last decade has been a flop, at least compared to what he used to write.
I was quite enjoying, the All star batman story.
But I do like new takes on characters. As long as they are inventively executed.
This idea of writers not getting characters, is a strange dogmatism, re-invention happens all the time. Imagine if characters were still written as they were during the 50's and 60's. The comic book industry wouldn't exist. Nostalgia is a powerful cause of Credulity, and intolerance, especially in the Aesthetic realm, and unfortunately in the moral social realms also.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
He is a bit of a window-licker, as well as very stubborn, and defiant. Although most genius's are
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I can't think of a MORE pretentious act, than accusing someone, on a comic book forum of being a fan boy, and believing it to be a relevant and cutting criticism.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I can't think of a MORE pretentious act, than accusing someone, on a comic book forum of being a fan boy, and believing it to be a relevant and cutting criticism.
Good! You keep thinking that!
But whoever agrees with this blank statement:
"he's a head above the majority of active writers right now"
It's simply borderline fanboyish in my book.
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Good! You keep thinking that!But whoever agrees with this blank statement:
"he's a head above the majority of active writers right now"
It's simply borderline fanboyish in my book.
Criticizing a fellow member on this forum of fanboyism, is equivalent to one KKK member, accusing another of being racist.
So "your book" is riddled with more contradictions than Alice in Wonderland.