Originally posted by -Pr-
Surfer's CA isn't some magic on switch. It's very possible he (or one of his team-mates) could go down before he decides to use it.Even split imo.
Originally posted by vansonbee
Everyone has intriguing speculation of the outcome 🙂
TheKahn, can you post/PM me when Surfer has use power cosmic to exploit a character/material weakness consistently (issue/comic)? Little bored, so just browsing
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Team 2 for majority, Sentry toss MM & WW into the Sun, than himself, so he won't feed Superman any more yellow energy. [/B]
does it to a Superman-clone
does it to the Hulk
twice
There are more scans and more current ones in the respect threads but half of the fracking links don't work anymore 🤨
Originally posted by darthgoober
It's not like he'd be checking just on the off chance he'd pick up something useful though, he knows Supes has at least one weakness right out of the gate because of basic knowledge. It seems logical that he'd use it early on if not right out of the gate...
how much basic knowledge are you expecting him to have?
knowing of kryptonite and knowing how to fashion it are two very different things.
Originally posted by TheKahn
does it to a Superman-clone
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/43469/922394-ss___gladiator_vulnerability_super.jpg
does it to the Hulk
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2937/theincrediblehulkv22503oj5.jpgtwice
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/115/theincrediblehulkv22501zi3.jpg
There are more scans and more current ones in the respect threads but half of the fracking links don't work anymore 🤨
Originally posted by TheKahnThat scan also shows how the surfer doesn't deal with Super strong beings all that well. He had to drain hulk or he was gonna get it.
does it to a Superman-clonedoes it to the Hulk
twice
There are more scans and more current ones in the respect threads but half of the fracking links don't work anymore 🤨
Originally posted by Zeuodin
That scan also shows how the surfer doesn't deal with Super strong beings all that well. He had to drain hulk or he was gonna get it.
😑 How did you come up with that?
1. He doesn't want to fight Gladiator so he uses his cosmic pimphand to make him back down
2. He wants the Hulk's power to escape the barrier around the earth. Again, he has zero interest in actually fighting his opponent.
3. He wants his board back, not a fist fight. So he deals with the Hulk like you or I would deal with a petulant 5 year old who has what we want = pimphand
Take a look in his respect thread and you'll see that when he wants to fight, the space hippie can hold his own against super strong opponents.
That scan also shows how the surfer doesn't deal with Super strong beings all that well. He had to drain hulk or he was gonna get it.
Utter nonsense. he was actually able to physically stop the hulks blows in one of the scans. In the other one hulk attacks surfer while he is monologuing and then fails to break surfers board. Surfer then asks him to release the board and when hulk refuses transforms him to banner. It doesnt show that surfer has problems with physical beings at all. Try actually reading the scans.
Originally posted by Naija boyExcept he says Hulk is getting stronger. We already know Hulk starts out at class 100. What happens when he starts Approaching Superman's level of power? But then again, Hulk also doesn't have Superman's Speed or ranged attacks or critical thinking. The scans mean nothing. Also the first scan clearly shows that Surfer was infused with some sort of strength amp by banner's device. Pay attention. Surfer isn't that strong on his own
Utter nonsense. he was actually able to physically stop the hulks blows in one of the scans. In the other one hulk attacks surfer while he is monologuing and then fails to break surfers board. Surfer then asks him to release the board and when hulk refuses transforms him to banner. It doesnt show that surfer has problems with physical beings at all. Try actually reading the scans.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Except he says Hulk is getting stronger. We already know Hulk starts out at class 100. What happens when he starts Approaching Superman's level of power? But then again, Hulk also doesn't have Superman's Speed or ranged attacks or critical thinking. The scans mean nothing. Also the first scan clearly shows that Surfer was infused with some sort of strength amp by banner's device. Pay attention. Surfer isn't that strong on his own
Its easy to sit back and dismiss the evidence others provide as irrelevant, especially when you provide none yourself. 😐
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Except he says Hulk is getting stronger. We already know Hulk starts out at class 100. What happens when he starts Approaching Superman's level of power? But then again, Hulk also doesn't have Superman's Speed or ranged attacks or critical thinking. The scans mean nothing. Also the first scan clearly shows that Surfer was infused with some sort of strength amp by banner's device. Pay attention. Surfer isn't that strong on his own
Just stop posting and save us all from this foolishness. Surfer mentions hulks ability to get stronger because he knows it will be useful in aiding him to break through galactus barrier. It has nothing to do with the danger hulk posed to him in that fight. If u didnt have the comprehensive abilities of a stuffed animal u would have seen this. The scans were not put there to show surfers strength but rather his using his PC to exploit holes in his opponent. On the other hand u r the one who brought up a retarded point about strength which even a cursory glance at the scans shows to be false.
Originally posted by Naija boyYou miss the point. The only reason Surfer was able to deal with Hulk in the first scan is because he had a shot of Strength from banner's own machine. In the second scan there was no such shot of strength and the hulk was getting the better of him. He had to drain Hulk. Let's also just not be retarded and look at the big differences between hulk and Superman.
Just stop posting and save us all from this foolishness. Surfer mentions hulks ability to get stronger because he knows it will be useful in aiding him to break through galactus barrier. It has nothing to do with the danger hulk posed to him in that fight. If u didnt have the comprehensive abilities of a stuffed animal u would have seen this. The scans were not put there to show surfers strength but rather his using his PC to exploit holes in his opponent. On the other hand u r the one who brought up a retarded point about strength which even a cursory glance at the scans shows to be false.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
You miss the point. The only reason Surfer was able to deal with Hulk in the first scan is because he had a shot of Strength from banner's own machine. In the second scan there was no such shot of strength and the hulk was getting the better of him. He had to drain Hulk. Let's also just not be retarded and look at the big differences between hulk and Superman.
Superman has shown energy draining resistance. He's also shown to Absorb different kinds of energy. He is also at the very height of strength so surfer actually grabbing Superman and draining him is ridiculous. He's going to get pummeled to death if he can grab Superman. Seeing as how Superman is so much faster in physical combat. He's also not an idiot. And since when Does surfer's cosmic awareness work while in the middle of a high speed battle in which he's trying to not get pummeled to death? Let's not even get on MM and WW who are both faster and more mobile than Thor as well. It's literally Three on two in the first few seconds of the fight. And Sentry can't beat anyone on team 1.
facepalm. Surfer had a shot of strength in the first scan yes but to say that is the only reason he was able to defeat hulk is just inane and nonsensical. He was holding back and the hulk never even posed a threat to him in that fight, In the second scan the hulk was NOT getting the better of him at all. Hulk got one freaking shot in while surfer was monologuing which did nothing to surfer. That does not constitute getting the better of him nor does it stand as a basis for ur retarded notion that he struggles against physical opponents. I could post scans of superman getting punched by bricks and by ur daft line of logic it would mean he struggles against physical opponents.lmao
Surfer can drain supermans energy without touching him so that is yet another invalid argument. Surfer is also has more than enough combat speed to battle superman evenly. Surfers cosmic awareness is an inherent ability of his. It wont magically go off because u want it to. Further he has shown to have the fastest mental abilities of anyone in this thread so speed isnt an issue. He wont be trying not to get pummeled to death but rather will be attacking with red sun radiation blasts and such of his own which will quickly down superman. Three on two? where the hell r u getting that from? Thor can handle either MM or WW and sentry at his best certainly wont be going down in the first few seconds of the fight. No one on team 1 can beat surfer and with superman their biggest gun down early due to weakness exploitation its all downhill from there.
Originally posted by -Pr-
how much basic knowledge are you expecting him to have?knowing of kryptonite and knowing how to fashion it are two very different things.
But I don't think you got what I was actually saying. See since Surfer knows that Supes has a weakness to k-nite radiation it means that he knows all he needs to do is discover the necessary frequency. My point is that even though he might not scan every foe for weaknesses, he's more likely to do so against Supes because he knows something will come of it.
Originally posted by Naija boy
facepalm. Surfer had a shot of strength in the first scan yes but to say that is the only reason he was able to defeat hulk is just inane and nonsensical. He was holding back and the hulk never even posed a threat to him in that fight, In the second scan the hulk was NOT getting the better of him at all. Hulk got one freaking shot in while surfer was monologuing which did nothing to surfer. That does not constitute getting the better of him nor does it stand as a basis for ur retarded notion that he struggles against physical opponents. I could post scans of superman getting punched by bricks and by ur daft line of logic it would mean he struggles against physical opponents.lmaoSurfer can drain supermans energy without touching him so that is yet another invalid argument. Surfer is also has more than enough combat speed to battle superman evenly. Surfers cosmic awareness is an inherent ability of his. It wont magically go off because u want it to. Further he has shown to have the fastest mental abilities of anyone in this thread so speed isnt an issue. He wont be trying not to get pummeled to death but rather will be attacking with red sun radiation blasts and such of his own which will quickly down superman. Three on two? where the hell r u getting that from? Thor can handle either MM or WW and sentry at his best certainly wont be going down in the first few seconds of the fight. No one on team 1 can beat surfer and with superman their biggest gun down early due to weakness exploitation its all downhill from there.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I know but that's where the Cosmic Awareness comes in.But I don't think you got what I was actually saying. See since Surfer knows that Supes has a weakness to k-nite radiation it means that he knows all he needs to do is discover the necessary frequency. My point is that even though he might not scan every foe for weaknesses, he's more likely to do so against Supes because he knows something will come of it.
and that's usually how he would win, but there are considerations.
one is, as you said, figuring out the correct frequency. that's not going to be easy. then he has to continuously hit him with it, because if superman even gets a second of sunlight, he's going to recharge quickly.
and all of this is assuming Superman is his first target.
and yes, i did. 😛
