SS vs Superman is a moot point in a 3 vs 3 battle. While Surfer might use the K Radiation or Red solar radiation, he has to hit him first, and if Superman gets a hold on him first (he is also not instantly depleted or powerless these days), he will wreck him physically the same way thor does. WW can block beams with her bracers btw.
An team battle is a team battle, WW (surfer doesn't seem to like magic) or MM can deal with SS or the Sentry. While Superman can take on Thor. With WW Lasso team 1 gets also a plot device which might come in handy 😉, though I doubt it would work on sentry, somehow.
I still would say Team 2 because of the weakness exploration AND Thors magic, which is another weakness for Supes. Team 2 6-7/10
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Resisted telepathy 2-3 times, resisted becoming apart of demorgorge unlike hundreds of elder gods, etc, etc.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
when you show me Surfer fighting someone as Fast as superman with any kind of decisive victory and coping then we will have a disccussion. I've seen none. He sure as hell can react fast to space debris and cosmic events tho. 🙂
Gladiator = Silver Age Superman-clone:
Speed - 100x speed of light
Speedblitz
Silver Surfer kicking Krosakis' ass, an energy vampire who stole the powers of Gladiator and the Uni-power (no scans but summery and issue numbers)
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/krosakiscu.htm
Originally posted by TheKahn
Gladiator = Silver Age Superman-clone:
Speed - 100x speed of lightSpeedblitz
Silver Surfer kicking Krosakis' ass, an energy vampire who stole the powers of Gladiator and the Uni-power (no scans but summery and issue numbers)
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/krosakiscu.htm
No where in this scan does it show glads fighting anyone at the speed of 100 light. also the planet was how big? becuz you know planets can be smaller than moons. Also, just becuz an energy vampire steels his powers, doesn't mean he knows how to use them. Sorry.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
No where in this scan does it show glads fighting anyone at the speed of 100 light. also the planet was how big? becuz you know planets can be smaller than moons. Also, just becuz an energy vampire steels his powers, doesn't mean he knows how to use them. Sorry.
Debating you is like debating a few other unpleasant individuals on this board. You're basically a cynical naysayer constantly dismissing all the proof put before you while never once doing the work to get scans backing up your side. Its pointless and not enjoyable in the least. 😐
Originally posted by Zeuodin
No where in this scan does it show glads fighting anyone at the speed of 100 light. also the planet was how big? becuz you know planets can be smaller than moons. Also, just becuz an energy vampire steels his powers, doesn't mean he knows how to use them. Sorry.
I also expected to see SS fight Glads at superspeed. But honestly, I don't doubt that Surfer could do it, though I think that Glads is faster in fights, if he wants to. Glads blitzed Thor but he still jobbs after this, that's the way comics are.
Originally posted by TheKahnRidiculous. I post scans all of the time. You posted scans of what gladiator has done to weaker opponents. You hadn't posted any thing worth while of Superior opponents. You didn't show Surfer fighting Glads at those uber speeds in any kind of fisticuffs. So the point of your scans was what?
Debating you is like debating a few other unpleasant individuals on this board. You're basically a cynical naysayer constantly dismissing all the proof put before you while never once doing the work to get scans backing up your side. Its pointless and not enjoyable in the least. 😐
Originally posted by Zeuodin
when you show me Surfer fighting someone as Fast as superman with any kind of decisive victory and coping then we will have a disccussion. I've seen none. He sure as hell can react fast to space debris and cosmic events tho. 🙂
lmao. Ur inability to counter anything in my post is very amusing. Anyhow surfer has shown top notch battle speed on numerous occasions as seen below.
Here he engages in superspeed speed combat within close distances against a surfer clone, reacting,dodging,as well as attacking at superspeeds.
Here he easily hits lightspeed+ midcombat in order to dodge an attack deathurge.
Here we have him blitzing multiple attackers at superspeed simultaneously before they can attack he or impossible man.
Attacks nova so fast he cant even perceive surfer and nova speculates that he may have been hit by an energy blast. (and nova has superspeed reflexes)
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Silver%20surfer%20feats/Surferblitznova3.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Silver%20surfer%20feats/Surferblitznova2.jpg
Bullrushing multiple ships
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Silver%20surfer%20feats/Surferblitzesannihilationwave.jpg
Another incident is his FTL battle with BRB.
So yes he does use his speed in battle when he sees fit and the claim that he only reacts quickly to spacedebris or whatever is just ur trademark retardation rearing its ugly head once again. Further if the only counter u can think of is the foolish argument surfer wasnt punching anyone in those scans then please dont bother responding.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Team 2 is not winning this. Sentry is by far the weakest link. Not to mention, MM can royally shrew with his head to make it a 3 vs 2 match
You can claim that he's weak, but he whether or not he panics doesn't matter when he's revived from anything. Hell, he could even revive Thor and Surfer if things get serious. The only counter team 1 could dream is the laughably weak speedblitz on. And I doubt that'd work when all of team 2 can go far beyond lightspeed.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Gladiator = Silver Age Superman-clone:
Speed - 100x speed of lightSpeedblitz
Silver Surfer kicking Krosakis' ass, an energy vampire who stole the powers of Gladiator and the Uni-power (no scans but summery and issue numbers)
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/krosakiscu.htm
Apparently you haven't been keeping up with your current Superman, as those feats aren't that overwhelming at all.
Not to mention, that planet busting feat is noncanon, iirc.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Is resisting Mind reading and Control the same as Mind Blasting? because most of the times, if Someone just does Psionic Blasts, that seems more potent, doesn't require as much finesse, and is all together different than some attempt to control or read.
It has absolutely nothing to do with will, which was what I responded to.
Originally posted by batdude123
Apparently you haven't been keeping up with your current Superman, as those feats aren't that overwhelming at all.Not to mention, that planet busting feat is noncanon, iirc.
😐
Please keep your assumptions to yourself. I actually took the time to post the scans in response to Zeuodin's request/challenge to show that the Silver Surfer has fought someone with speed/reflexes/speedblitz capabilities similar to Superman's. Since Gladiator is clearly a Superman-clone I thought he would make the best example.
Not that it mattered. Too many people on this board spend all their time making negative claims and refuse to back them up with actual evidence thus making the debate completely onesided. I know I've been gone for a while but when did that become acceptable? 😬
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Is resisting Mind reading and Control the same as Mind Blasting? because most of the times, if Someone just does Psionic Blasts, that seems more potent, doesn't require as much finesse, and is all together different than some attempt to control or read.
SS has resisted a mind blast from Moondragon with the mind gem. If you want the scans go look in the SS respect thread.
