Superman, Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman Vs Silver Surfer, Sentry and Thor

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman is the fastest on the field in Mele. WW has the best reflexes. Surfer is a blaster. He isn't going to one Shot Wonder Woman. He isn't faster than the god Mercury at blasting. Nor DS. Nor The Shattered God. MM doesn't even have to be visible or material if he doesn't want. He can simply mind blast. No one on Team two is going to just shrug off his mind blast. Resist yes. Shrug off no. Superman is going to punch harder than Thor. He's more durable and he's faster. Speed and Durability play as much part in striking power as does strenght. Why do you think Zoom hits so hard? or Thor's hammer? Superman can throw his punches much faster than Thor can throw the hammer. he has to throw it and wait for it to return. If he misses,(likely) Superman is all on him before the hammer returns. Superman can also amp his striking power by simply flying. Wonder Woman and Superman do it all of the time. They both struck the General in a massive blitz. WW's struck Amazo the same way. Also The DC team will have something the other team won't. the ability to cooridnate and share all attack patterns. Not only have they teamed for years, they have MM. They will all be moving at Superspeed. Only two the marvel team can effectively combat manuever in aerial combat.

HHHMMMM, so Superman striking power is more powerful than thors.

Ok, lets see what thor has under his belt.

Thor fighting gardner and his striking force was so powerful that it tore the moon apart.

http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/?action=view&current=ThorvsGardner9.jpg
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/?action=view&current=ThorvsGardner8.jpg

Durability

Withstand attacks from an enraged odin

http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=WithstandsOdinAtum1.jpg
http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=WithstandsOdinAtum2.jpg

Withstand attacks from an angry CELESTIAL

http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=WithstandsCelestialBlast1.jpg
http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=WithstandsCelestialBlast2.jpg

and is still trying to fight.
http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=WithstandsCelestialBlast3.jpg

Withstand attacks from an ENRAGED celestial

http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/?action=view&current=ThorvsCelestials2.jpg
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/?action=view&current=ThorvsCelestials3.jpg

Or how about an angry Odin again

http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=ThorvsOdin1.jpg
http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=ThorvsOdin3.jpg
http://s989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/?action=view&current=ThorvsOdin4.jpg

Your turn

And thor has NEVER been one shotted by a brick and he has fought some of the most powerful bricks in comics.

Let's not turn this into a Supes v. Thor thread; it has been so heavily debated, with so many arguments for both sides. I think it should be agreed that while each has advantages over the other (Supes in speed, Thor in versatility, etc. etc.) , they are pretty even.

Originally posted by Simbon
Let's not turn this into a Supes v. Thor thread; it has been so heavily debated, with so many arguments for both sides. I think it should be agreed that while each has advantages over the other (Supes in speed, Thor in versatility, etc. etc.) , they are pretty even.

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A non-biased voice of reason on KMC??? I need to check my window to see if there are three wise men bearing gifts (its what happened last time something this rare miraculous occurred).

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Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Silver Surfer, Sentry, and Thor all have enough durability feats to show that no one is getting one shotted by any one else.

Imo, they all rank somewhere in the same "herald" level category given their various strength, durability, and speed. Also, given that almost all of them (on both sides) have repeatedly fought superfast characters before - I discount the possibility of a speedblitz factoring in here. In my mind at this level, the difference isn't enough to factor in.

The way I see it:

Strength - tie (impressive feats for both teams)
Durability - tie (same as above)
Speed - tie (same as above)
Fighting ability - tie (all numerous fights against impressive foes)
Invisibility/phasing - tie (MM = SS)

that leaves...
Energy/matter manip. - team two (large advantage)
Psi-ability - team one (mild advantage thanks to SS)

In which case, I'm going with team two with 6/ or 7/10 in long, busing fights that destroys a hell of a lot of real-estate

Originally posted by TheKahn
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A non-biased voice of reason on KMC??? I need to check my window to see if there are three wise men bearing gifts (its what happened last time something this rare miraculous occurred).

😉

Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Silver Surfer, Sentry, and Thor all have enough durability feats to show that [b]no one is getting one shotted by any one else.

Imo, they all rank somewhere in the same "herald" level category given their various strength, durability, and speed. Also, given that almost all of them (on both sides) have repeatedly fought superfast characters before - I discount the possibility of a speedblitz factoring in here. In my mind at this level, the difference isn't enough to factor in.

The way I see it:

Strength - tie (impressive feats for both teams)
Durability - tie (same as above)
Speed - tie (same as above)
Fighting ability - tie (all numerous fights against impressive foes)
Invisibility/phasing - tie (MM = SS)

that leaves...
Energy/matter manip. - team two (large advantage)
Psi-ability - team one (mild advantage thanks to SS)

In which case, I'm going with team two with 6/ or 7/10 in long, busing fights that destroys a hell of a lot of real-estate [/B]

👆 This is a pretty objective view on how the fight would turn out.

Originally posted by TheKahn
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A non-biased voice of reason on KMC??? I need to check my window to see if there are three wise men bearing gifts (its what happened last time something this rare miraculous occurred).

😉

Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Silver Surfer, Sentry, and Thor all have enough durability feats to show that [b]no one is getting one shotted by any one else.

Imo, they all rank somewhere in the same "herald" level category given their various strength, durability, and speed. Also, given that almost all of them (on both sides) have repeatedly fought superfast characters before - I discount the possibility of a speedblitz factoring in here. In my mind at this level, the difference isn't enough to factor in.

The way I see it:

Strength - tie (impressive feats for both teams)
Durability - tie (same as above)
Speed - tie (same as above)
Fighting ability - tie (all numerous fights against impressive foes)
Invisibility/phasing - tie (MM = SS)

that leaves...
Energy/matter manip. - team two (large advantage)
Psi-ability - team one (mild advantage thanks to SS)

In which case, I'm going with team two with 6/ or 7/10 in long, busing fights that destroys a hell of a lot of real-estate [/B]

Team one has One shot ability that team two does not have. That Lasso and Tiara both give quick wins to Whom ever Wondy fights if she fights the slower of the 3. Thor and Sentry.

Also, Thor is less mobile than anyone else. He cannot fly. Every one else will be engaging in high speed aerial battle. In this type of fight, that is a liability.

Speed is a big factor especially when WW and Superman are involved. They are too strong to ignore that advantage.

Split.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Couple of things.

Team one has One shot ability that team two does not have. That Lasso and Tiara both give quick wins to Whom ever Wondy fights if she fights the slower of the 3. Thor and Sentry.

Also, Thor is less mobile than anyone else. He cannot fly. Every one else will be engaging in high speed aerial battle. In this type of fight, that is a liability.

Speed is a big factor especially when WW and Superman are involved. They are too strong to ignore that advantage.

Split.

Thor can't fly???

I can see where you might make that mistake. Its a new power of his. He's only had it for almost 50 years. 😐

Originally posted by TheKahn
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A non-biased voice of reason on KMC??? I need to check my window to see if there are three wise men bearing gifts (its what happened last time something this rare miraculous occurred).

😉

Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Silver Surfer, Sentry, and Thor all have enough durability feats to show that [b]no one is getting one shotted by any one else.

Imo, they all rank somewhere in the same "herald" level category given their various strength, durability, and speed. Also, given that almost all of them (on both sides) have repeatedly fought superfast characters before - I discount the possibility of a speedblitz factoring in here. In my mind at this level, the difference isn't enough to factor in.

The way I see it:

Strength - tie (impressive feats for both teams)
Durability - tie (same as above)
Speed - tie (same as above)
Fighting ability - tie (all numerous fights against impressive foes)
Invisibility/phasing - tie (MM = SS)

that leaves...
Energy/matter manip. - team two (large advantage)
Psi-ability - team one (mild advantage thanks to SS)

In which case, I'm going with team two with 6/ or 7/10 in long, busing fights that destroys a hell of a lot of real-estate [/B]

This looks like an iron clad contract. Where do I sign?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Couple of things.

Team one has One shot ability that team two does not have. That Lasso and Tiara both give quick wins to Whom ever Wondy fights if she fights the slower of the 3. Thor and Sentry.

Also, Thor is less mobile than anyone else. He cannot fly. Every one else will be engaging in high speed aerial battle. In this type of fight, that is a liability.

Speed is a big factor especially when WW and Superman are involved. They are too strong to ignore that advantage.

Split.

LOL at thor not being able to fly

Supes and WW blitz.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Thor can't fly???

I can see where you might make that mistake. Its a new power of his. He's only had it for almost 50 years. 😐

Originally posted by Zeuodin
His Hammer pulls him. Show me Thor flying.

For all intents and purposes, Mjolnir grants Thor the same capacity of flight as a GL ring grants Hal Jordan or the Iron Man armor provides Tony Stark: he can fly, maneuver at speed, and even hover in mid-air. If you want some scans showing what even the most casual comic book readers know go spend some time in Thor's respect thread.

Originally posted by shokosugi
Supes and WW blitz.

surfer bull rushes all three at 525,600 times the speed of light and cuts superman, martian mannhunter and wonder woman in half with his board 😛

Only to realize that he has been T-Vo'd. He then gets punched out.

Originally posted by TheKahn
For all intents and purposes, Mjolnir grants Thor the same capacity of flight as a GL ring grants Hal Jordan or the Iron Man armor provides Tony Stark: he can fly, maneuver at speed, and even hover in mid-air. If you want some scans showing what even the most casual comic book readers know go spend some time in Thor's respect thread.

Thor can't fly without his hammer. Maybe in the classic era he could have, but current Thor can NOT

Originally posted by TheKahn
For all intents and purposes, Mjolnir grants Thor the same capacity of flight as a GL ring grants Hal Jordan or the Iron Man armor provides Tony Stark: he can fly, maneuver at speed, and even hover in mid-air. If you want some scans showing what even the most casual comic book readers know go spend some time in Thor's respect thread.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
He he has never engaged in aerial combat with the Hammer. That doesn't even make sense. It's pulling him along. Literally one arm is being used for flight. And I've never seen him engage in high speed combat in the air.

That sounds like a you problem to me. 😐

I don't mean to be a bother but which version of Superman are you using again? Otherwise I might give it to team 2. I'm still undecided, I just biased towards Marvel is all.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Thor can't fly without his hammer. Maybe in the classic era he could have, but current Thor can NOT