Originally posted by Zeuodin
A small lifeless planet and a moon made out of energy. So how can we even compare? How do we know how many times Glads hit the planet? he seemed to be letting off steam. You think 2 or 3 punches really let out all of his anger?
The moon had the same mass as earths moon so Superman was actually hitting something that had the same weight and mass as a regular moon (which was stated by batman).
Originally posted by iceman24567
Stood on a random planet for all we know it could have been the size of Delaware 😬
Yeah, he stood on the planet but it was far away from being the size of deleware since it did have about 8 moons surrounding it. 😕
Gladiator has planet crushing strength and he proved this. Dont try to discredit his feat because Superman doesnt have anything proving that he is a planet destroyer.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Thor is going to be pretty slow and less mobile than anyone else. He is yet and still the most powerful. I'd put Hal right there with him but Hal is a human. No strength or durability.
Based on what? With Mjolnir he has caught up and fought with Skuttlebutt that was flying at speeds multiple times the speed of light from another Galaxy as I recall. Without Mjolnir he has still flown so fast and far that he reached Earth from Asgard in a few minutes tops. That means he flew fast enough to break into the Earth dimension and traversed countless Galaxies etc. as that's how Thor described the distance of Asgard from Earth a few times back in those days. He has enough manuverability without Mjolnir to right an upside down Airliner with assistance from Gladiator for example. He has no problem maneuvering in the air. Even with Mjolnir as a source of flight. He did it more so during Simson's run. He had Thor's speed and movement played up to an extent, dodging and weaving against larger opponents like Fafnir etc. as I recall.
So i guess superman knocking himself out trying to destroy a small moon with all his effort is somehow translated into him being able to destroy a planet??... Not buying it... That effort clearly shows him being nowhere near gladiator in strength or durability... Gladiator rammed ego at near lightspeed and was not hurt in the least.... and ego is a planet that fought back. Even hyperion smashed wonderman through a planet and was un-hurt.
Originally posted by Neutron-Blast
So i guess superman knocking himself out trying to destroy a small moon with all his effort is somehow translated into him being able to destroy a planet??... Not buying it... That effort clearly shows him being nowhere near gladiator in strength or durability... Gladiator rammed ego at near lightspeed and was not hurt in the least.... and ego is a planet that fought back. Even hyperion smashed wonderman through a planet and was un-hurt.
so you take an ambiguous low showing as proof of his average, when it isn't?
Originally posted by Blanket
What is his average against planets then?
he's pulled at least half the weight of the earth, pushed warworld, and iirc seriously messed up one of saturn's moons (don't remember if he shattered it). oh, and he took a supernova and a planet exploding (he was standing on it) at the same time and all it did was knock him unconscious.
Originally posted by -Pr-That is not planet busting.
he's pulled at least half the weight of the earth, pushed warworld, and iirc seriously messed up one of saturn's moons (don't remember if he shattered it). oh, and he took a supernova and a planet exploding (he was standing on it) at the same time and all it did was knock him unconscious.
And he flew through the moon... I don't recall him destroying it.
You're talking about the Hal/Supes team up pushing Earth?
Also, he pushed Warworld after he sundipped (unless there's another time I'm overlooking).
Just a funny thing, but I remember getting told that Superman should be able to easily absorb a supernova because it's sun... but anyway, didn't Gladiator fly through an exploding sun?
Not that I'm saying that Glads is better than Supes, but when it comes to these pointless ' he detroy moar", Glads clearly has him beat, and Superman just doesn't have 'planet busting' showings. Not to say he couldn't of course, but he doesn't have the showings where he just goes out and wrecks shit. And that's the sort of stuff that will always drive people like Carver to ignorantly believe that he is not on a characters level who could do so. And it shouldn't matter to you, since Superman has so many other wtf moments, that one thing like that shouldn't matter.
Otherwise we'd be putting people like classic Drax (destroyed planetoids/small sun), and Hyperion (ran through planet and iirc caused a sun to explode) above Superman... when it's obvious that they uh... aren't. 😐
Originally posted by Blanket
That is not planet busting.And he flew through the moon... I don't recall him destroying it.
You're talking about the Hal/Supes team up pushing Earth?
Also, he pushed Warworld after he sundipped (unless there's another time I'm overlooking).
Just a funny thing, but I remember getting told that Superman should be able to easily absorb a supernova because it's sun... but anyway, didn't Gladiator fly through an exploding sun?Not that I'm saying that Glads is better than Supes, but when it comes to these pointless ' he detroy moar", Glads clearly has him beat, and Superman just doesn't have 'planet busting' showings. Not to say he couldn't of course, but he doesn't have the showings where he just goes out and wrecks shit. And that's the sort of stuff that will always drive people like Carver to ignorantly believe that he is not on a characters level who could do so. And it shouldn't matter to you, since Superman has so many other wtf moments, that one thing like that shouldn't matter.
Otherwise we'd be putting people like classic Drax (destroyed planetoids/small sun), and Hyperion (ran through planet and iirc caused a sun to explode) above Superman... when it's obvious that they uh... aren't. 😐
i never said it was examples of planet busting, though. at the very least, it's examples that show that he has the capability, if not the tendency as you said, to go around wrecking shit.
Originally posted by -Pr-But that was the point as a lot of those feats don't translate into 'busting a planet', and as such, will put him far below Glads in Carver's computer brain.
i never said it was examples of planet busting, though. at the very least, it's examples that show that he has the capability, if not the tendency as you said, to go around wrecking shit.
The closest Supes has is when him and Zod were wrecking up the planet under the red sun I believe.
Originally posted by Blanket
But that was the point as a lot of those feats don't translate into 'busting a planet', and as such, will put him far below Glads in Carver's computer brain.The closest Supes has is when him and Zod were wrecking up the planet under the red sun I believe.
why do you keep bringing up carver? 😂