Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, they all have the same potential.In my opinion, WWH was stronger then other Hulk version in base form, but there is NO telling who is stronger once they get really mad.
Not to mention, you can't use feats from other version even though they are weaker.
Your arguments is pointless since reed, strange, iron man, etc... said that they NEVER seen hulk at a powerlevel like this before.
Originally posted by carver9
Your arguments is pointless since reed, strange, iron man, etc... said that they NEVER seen hulk at a powerlevel like this before.
No, he's quite correct. Nearly every version of the Hulk is said to have potentially unlimited strength. Simply because none of them have managed to get mad enough to match or exceed WWH, does not mean it isn't possible.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
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Doctor strange saying that WWH is the strongest and strange also giving the reason why they didnt bfr him.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/wwhstrongest.jpg
You all use the hercules fight as reference, hercules himself admit that hulk could have crushed him and that hulk was pulling his punches.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkholdingbackagainsthercules.jpg
Hulk power is off the charts.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkpoweroffcharts.jpg
Shield say that Hulk power is at a power that they have never seen.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/wwhstrongest1.jpg
Gamma corps. Hulk power is at a level that they have never seen.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/wwhangriest.jpg
Omega level threat and he's madder than hes ever been which means he is stronger than he has ever been.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/wwhstrongest2.jpg
Hulk was holding back the entire time to prevent innocent deaths, so that means that whatever we seen from his wasnt even his limit.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkintelligence.jpg
Originally posted by TheKahn
No, he's quite correct. Nearly every version of the Hulk is said to have potentially unlimited strength. Simply because none of them have managed to get mad enough to match or exceed WWH, does not mean it isn't possible.
Read my previous post. He was at a level that he was never at before. Now stop trying to down WWH when its obvious that he was stronger than ANY version of the hulk since it was mentioned like a thousand times.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, they all have the same potential.In my opinion, WWH was stronger then other Hulk version in base form, but there is NO telling who is stronger once they get really mad.
Not to mention, you can't use feats from other version even though they are weaker.
Sure there is the story told us, he was angrier and stronger than he'd ever been.
But if Character A is stronger than Character B and character B is strong enough to destroy a planet through strength then so is Character A. By the same token, if the Thing can destroy *insert giant robot* with a punch then we know that Hercules could do the same since Herc's stronger than Thing. Or are you of the opinion that Sundipped Supes has to replicate all his old feats to prove than he's capable of doing so?
Originally posted by darthgoober
They might have the same potential, but that doesn't mean that WWH wasn't stronger than the other versions.Sure there is the story told us, he was angrier and stronger than he'd ever been.
But if Character A is stronger than Character B and character B is strong enough to destroy a planet through strength then so is Character A. By the same token, if the Thing can destroy *insert giant robot* with a punch then we know that Hercules could do the same since Herc's stronger than Thing. Or are you of the opinion that Sundipped Supes has to replicate all his old feats to prove than he's capable of doing so?
Now here is where some arguments fall apart.
I got feats to prove other hulk version>WWH
If you use statements, then you are still going to have to prove how WWH wasn't able to beat Jugg in a simple contest of strength? Weak perhaps?
Though, I hope you aren't going to claim what Carver is. Juggernaut has unlimited strength
Then there is the part where you admit that the people who admitted WWH was the stronger aren't omniscient. There knowledge is limited to what they experienced.
Superman has claimed countless of times that WW>Him, or Johnz>Superman. It ain't true.
^No offense but what the ****?
If it's a valid feat like say Gray Hulk destroying an asteroid twice as large as Earth you best believe I'll use that as evidence that the Hulk is a planet buster when necessary. Green Scar can do the exact same thing or even Savage Hulk if angry enough and if they need to. Except they'd do it much quicker and much easier.
I don't see you're point with the Juggernaut example as no Hulk incarnation has bested Juggernaut in a contest of strength. That's including War Hulk, he used tech/energy to stop the Juggernaut and grabbed him by his ankle when he was surprised and tossed him.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, they all have the same potential.In my opinion, WWH was stronger then other Hulk version in base form, but there is NO telling who is stronger once they get really mad.
Not to mention, you can't use feats from other version even though they are weaker.
It's pretty damn straight forward in terms of some incarnations which are stronger. Green Scar and Mindless Hulk are probably the strongest incarnations outside of World Breaker. Mindless Hulk impressed me more though and he is the most durable incarnation in my personal opinion. Savage Hulk and Gravage come right below them although they can reach those levels if necessary. The greatest differences between the first two and the next two are higher bases. All 4 have the dynamic power set, meaning potentially neither are superior to the other unless it's Mindless Hulk during the era he started dying after being separated from Banner. Even Gray Hulk can reach untold levels, except the fact that he gets stronger much slower and has a much lower base than the top 4 incarnations. Professor Hulk has a set limit though.
Hold on what?
So if a weaker incarnation does something you don't think that's evidence that a stronger incarnation can do the exact same thing just easier?
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Some feats, yes. Some don't have to be.Now here is where some arguments fall apart.
I got feats to prove other hulk version>WWH
If you use statements, then you are still going to have to prove how WWH wasn't able to beat Jugg in a simple contest of strength? Weak perhaps?
Though, I hope you aren't going to claim what Carver is. Juggernaut has unlimited strengthThen there is the part where you admit that the people who admitted WWH was the stronger aren't omniscient. There knowledge is limited to what they experienced.
Superman has claimed countless of times that WW>Him, or Johnz>Superman. It ain't true.
No you've got more feats from other versions, you don't have feats that prove other versions are >WWH, big difference there. Did Hulk actually lose the contest of strength, or did he BFR Jugg's before it was over?
Yeah but then you have the part where the writers of the story were, and they support the characters. We're not talking about random hyperbole or an offhand statement, it's the basis of the whole freakin' arc. That's like me saying that I don't believe that all but 5 of DC's universes were destroyed during COIE.
Is that an answer to the question regarding Sundipped Supes, cause if it is I don't get it. Does Sundipped Supes have to replicate all his past feats on panel to prove that he's still capable of doing them or not?
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Some feats, yes. Some don't have to be.Now here is where some arguments fall apart.
I got feats to prove other hulk version>WWH
If you use statements, then you are still going to have to prove how WWH wasn't able to beat Jugg in a simple contest of strength? Weak perhaps?
Though, I hope you aren't going to claim what Carver is. Juggernaut has unlimited strengthThen there is the part where you admit that the people who admitted WWH was the stronger aren't omniscient. There knowledge is limited to what they experienced.
Superman has claimed countless of times that WW>Him, or Johnz>Superman. It ain't true.
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Its pretty much pointless to argue against you.
Countless people, including shield measured his powerlevel and said that its on another level than any carnation of the hulk and you are still discrediting it.
WWH walking through a black that ripped through time (black bolt) proves that he was stronger than any version of the hulk.
WWH walking through ghost riders attack like they were nothing and toying with him proves that he was on a different level.
WWH ripping a big a** island apart because he was angry proves that he was on a different level.
Hercules admitting that WWH was TOYING with him and could have ended the fight any time proves that he was on a different level.
Earth defense relying on plot devices to stop wwh which STILL failed proves that he was on another level.
It taking doctor strange to merge with zom to give him a challenge proves this.
All the prep that they put into place just to stop this character and still failing while the entire time wwh was holding back proves that wwh and savage hulk are two different beings.
I provided scans, stop ignoring them.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^No offense but what the ****?If it's a valid feat like say Gray Hulk destroying an asteroid twice as large as Earth you best believe I'll use that as evidence that the Hulk is a planet buster when necessary. Green Scar can do the exact same thing or even Savage Hulk if angry enough and if they need to. Except they'd do it much quicker and much easier.
I don't see you're point with the Juggernaut example as no Hulk incarnation has bested Juggernaut in a contest of strength. That's including War Hulk, he used tech/energy to stop the Juggernaut and grabbed him by his ankle when he was surprised and tossed him.
It's pretty damn straight forward in terms of some incarnations which are stronger. Green Scar and Mindless Hulk are probably the strongest incarnations outside of World Breaker. Mindless Hulk impressed me more though and he is the most durable incarnation in my personal opinion. Savage Hulk and Gravage come right below them although they can reach those levels if necessary. The greatest differences between the first two and the next two are higher bases. All 4 have the dynamic power set, meaning potentially neither are superior to the other unless it's Mindless Hulk during the era he started dying after being separated from Banner. Even Gray Hulk can reach untold levels, except the fact that he gets stronger much slower and has a much lower base than the top 4 incarnations. Professor Hulk has a set limit though.
Hold on what?
So if a weaker incarnation does something you don't think that's evidence that a stronger incarnation can do the exact same thing just easier?
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Originally posted by carver9
😕Its pretty much pointless to argue against you.
Countless people, including shield measured his powerlevel and said that its on another level than any carnation of the hulk and you are still discrediting it.
WWH walking through a black that ripped through time (black bolt) proves that he was stronger than any version of the hulk.
WWH walking through ghost riders attack like they were nothing and toying with him proves that he was on a different level.
WWH ripping a big a** island apart because he was angry proves that he was on a different level.
Hercules admitting that WWH was TOYING with him and could have ended the fight any time proves that he was on a different level.
Earth defense relying on plot devices to stop wwh which STILL failed proves that he was on another level.
It taking doctor strange to merge with zom to give him a challenge proves this.
All the prep that they put into place just to stop this character and still failing while the entire time wwh was holding back proves that wwh and savage hulk are two different beings.
I provided scans, stop ignoring them.
Not only that but you keep acting as if the PIS doesn't matter. It wasn't all the prep. It was just ridiculous, and idiotic prep. Reed has made weapons o destroy beings soo much stronger then Hulk. Beings like Celestial. He has defeated Galactus, Abraxas, and soo much more. Obviously, it wasn't all prep
As of Shield, and other corps claiming that this was levels beyond any hulk. Good for them! That's what they believe using their LIMITED knowledge. You can't prove that they seen every version of hulk, or the strongest hulk.
It's like me coming from nowhere and claiming Superman has been the stronger then he has been in the past 3 years. I would be true if I have read all of Superman's issues. If not, the it's limited
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I have said it a countless times to you.
Those feats that WWH has are not good. Him ripping off a island is nothing. Characters who are considered mid_herald have done feats that are soo much better. Hercules has no feats that can compare to a high herald; not even mid herald. Doctor Strange hasn't been good in a long time. If he is, please prove it. You know as well as anyone here that he hasn't been good since he classic time.Not only that but you keep acting as if the PIS doesn't matter. It wasn't all the prep. It was just ridiculous, and idiotic prep. Reed has made weapons o destroy beings soo much stronger then Hulk. Beings like Celestial. He has defeated Galactus, Abraxas, and soo much more. Obviously, it wasn't all prep
As of Shield, and other corps claiming that this was levels beyond any hulk. Good for them! That's what they believe using their LIMITED knowledge. You can't prove that they seen every version of hulk, or the strongest hulk.
It's like me coming from nowhere and claiming Superman has been the stronger then he has been in the past 3 years. I would be true if I have read all of Superman's issues. If not, the it's limited
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Originally posted by xJLxKing
I have said it a countless times to you.
Those feats that WWH has are not good. Him ripping off a island is nothing. Characters who are considered mid_herald have done feats that are soo much better. Hercules has no feats that can compare to a high herald; not even mid herald. Doctor Strange hasn't been good in a long time. If he is, please prove it. You know as well as anyone here that he hasn't been good since he classic time.Not only that but you keep acting as if the PIS doesn't matter. It wasn't all the prep. It was just ridiculous, and idiotic prep. Reed has made weapons o destroy beings soo much stronger then Hulk. Beings like Celestial. He has defeated Galactus, Abraxas, and soo much more. Obviously, it wasn't all prep
As of Shield, and other corps claiming that this was levels beyond any hulk. Good for them! That's what they believe using their LIMITED knowledge. You can't prove that they seen every version of hulk, or the strongest hulk.
It's like me coming from nowhere and claiming Superman has been the stronger then he has been in the past 3 years. I would be true if I have read all of Superman's issues. If not, the it's limited
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I have said it a countless times to you.
Those feats that WWH has are not good. Him ripping off a island is nothing. Characters who are considered mid_herald have done feats that are soo much better. Hercules has no feats that can compare to a high herald; not even mid herald. Doctor Strange hasn't been good in a long time. If he is, please prove it. You know as well as anyone here that he hasn't been good since he classic time.Not only that but you keep acting as if the PIS doesn't matter. It wasn't all the prep. It was just ridiculous, and idiotic prep. Reed has made weapons o destroy beings soo much stronger then Hulk. Beings like Celestial. He has defeated Galactus, Abraxas, and soo much more. Obviously, it wasn't all prep
As of Shield, and other corps claiming that this was levels beyond any hulk. Good for them! That's what they believe using their LIMITED knowledge. You can't prove that they seen every version of hulk, or the strongest hulk.
It's like me coming from nowhere and claiming Superman has been the stronger then he has been in the past 3 years. I would be true if I have read all of Superman's issues. If not, the it's limited
Eh? Hercules has feats such as lifting up Atlas' weight which is pretty much a feat up there with Superman and Captain Marvel lifting up a book of infinite pages. Or the times he has stalemated Thor, whose basically the pinnacle of high end top tier strength up there with Superman. Thor though has shown to be able to kick it up a notch to a level above Hercules in strength when he needs to so meh...
Reed did job in that arc though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusno, lifting atlas weight is a dumb feat because it doesn't tell us anything about how strong herc is
Eh? Hercules has feats such as lifting up Atlas' weight which is pretty much a feat up there with Superman and Captain Marvel lifting up a book of infinite pages.
colossus or thing might even be able to lift atlas' burden
Originally posted by Starscream M
no, lifting atlas weight is a dumb feat because it doesn't tell us anything about how strong herc iscolossus or thing might even be able to lift atlas' burden
It's as about as logical as Superman lifting up a book of infinite pages with Captain Marvel. Atlas is basically the Olympian version of the Cosmic Axis apparently in the current Pak run so it's pretty damn uber if I understand it.
Highly doubt it.
