Wolverine vs Spider-Man's Enemies

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea well that PIS doesn't count here.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Nothing Wolverine could really do to a faster, stronger, deadlier, opponent with vampiric abilities and can make tendrils come out from all places? It's a stomp.

Carnage isn't phenominally faster, he's far less skilled, or vetted, and he's an idiot. Wolverine has a shot to take him out, it just isn't a big one.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lol at someone like Wolverine? Carnage is like Wolverine and Spiderman mixed. Hulk doesn't "take out" Wolverine either most of the time, it's a crossover where they are going to make it a good match. I really need to look at that fight again though.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I mean Spiderman took out Omega Red and that was the "weakened" Spiderman, so what? He loses here against Omega Red most of the time, so I wouldn't even argue it.

Love ya Jin. 😛

Yea, but Brock isn't that smart either, he's more clever, but he's protrayed as in idiot quite often. Carnage is deadlier with better offense up close or far away, his symbiote morphs and isn't solid so the claws don't have the same effect. I mean really there isn't much Wolverine can do. Carnage is quite faster as well. Fighting efficiency over proficiency. With someone like Carnage, it doesn't even apply the same way because of what he can do.

I'll have to look that instance up but OR was attacking the Bugle.

When did Black Cat and Spiderman give him significant trouble, she kicked him in the back as he was about to kill Parker, nothing else. He's had consistently much better showings.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, but Brock isn't that smart either, he's more clever, but he's protrayed as in idiot quite often.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Carnage is deadlier with better offense up close or far away,

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
his symbiote morphs and isn't solid so the claws don't have the same effect. I mean really there isn't much Wolverine can do.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Carnage is quite faster as well. Fighting efficiency over proficiency. With someone like Carnage, it doesn't even apply the same way because of what he can do.

No... he isn't. He's not faster to the degree that it matters in a fight. If they melee both will land hits and both will land hits as consistently as the other way around.

What carnage CAN do and what he WILL do are completely different monsters.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'll have to look that instance up but OR was attacking the Bugle.

When did Black Cat and Spiderman give him significant trouble, she kicked him in the back as he was about to kill Parker, nothing else. He's had consistently much better showings.

Carnage has never been as big a threat to people in comics as he's given credit as he was in first appearance. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
Brock consistently fights loads better than carnage and manages to outfight carnage in their throwdowns as well so I'm not sure what you think bringing him up here brings to the table.

Nah he has the potential to be deadlier, but he isn't due to CIS and certainly not with a healer like Wolvie.

Stab carnage pretty simple.

No... he isn't. He's not faster to the degree that it matters in a fight. If they melee both will land hits and both will land hits as consistently as the other way around.

What carnage CAN do and what he WILL do are completely different monsters.

In Carnage/Venom Black cat put up a multi-panel scuffle with Cassidy, Spiderman's put boots to him IIRC around the Spider carnage era.

Carnage has never been as big a threat to people in comics as he's given credit as he was in first appearance. 😬

Carnage's hits are far more lethal and he can hit far more often up close and far away.

They distracted Carnage but they were pretty much doomed until Toxin owned Brock and Carnage. Carnage wasn't used as much but he remained quite deadly and he is also closer bonded with his symbiote as well.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Brock is a brawler and does not outfight him straight up, there is always a plot device.

Carnage's hits are far more lethal and he can hit far more often up close and far away.

They distracted Carnage but they were pretty much doomed until Toxin owned Brock and Carnage. Carnage wasn't used as much but he remained quite deadly and he is also closer bonded with his symbiote as well.

Carnage is not going to hit with far more lethality, Logan's strikes can be much more critical, he can take off limbs with a swipe, carnage can't.

No I mean at the beginning of the mini she fights him.

The conditions weren't just flat one on one with no plot devices.

He can't really do that to Carnage considering what he has on him. Carnage doesn't need to as he can just suck his insides out.

I'll have to look at that again. Carnage never fights fully, he's more like "Aaagh, go away I'm pregnant." That's what he does most of the time it seems.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The conditions weren't just flat one on one with no plot devices.

He can't really do that to Carnage considering what he has on him. Carnage doesn't need to as he can just suck his insides out.

I'll have to look at that again. Carnage never fights fully, he's more like "Aaagh, go away I'm pregnant." That's what he does most of the time it seems.

Every fight they've had that Venom's stomped have been in 1on1 fights and if there were "conditions" they applied to both parties.

Why can't he cut Carnages' limbs off? I don't see how that's not an applicable option here, it's even a likely attack. Wolverine doesn't have to even aim, just swing for the fences.. 😬

Carnage suck his insides out?lol

I dunno, most fights I've seen carnage fight are fights he either starts or tries to finish in spite of bad "conditions".

What fights man?

Slicing directly just doesn't seem to work well on symbiotes? I'm saying Carnage can enter his body with his tendrils and mess him up, long story short.

wolverine wins all except for venom, carnage, and sandman

Originally posted by FrothByte
wolverine wins all except for venom, carnage, and sandman

👆 😎

Omega Red never fought Spiderman before.......

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Omega Red never fought Spiderman before.......

Originally posted by Starscream M
it would be an interesting fight without death spores

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Omega Red never fought Spiderman before.......

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He has. Spiderman *might* get a win, Carnage vs Wolverine is worse.

No it not at all. Spiderman would literally drop within seconds of the pheramones being released.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I am almost 100% sure that your wrong. what issue did they fight in? how did the fight go?

No it not at all. Spiderman would literally drop within seconds of the pheramones being released.

With them wouldn't be good, depends on locale. Without he'd be facing a tougher semi-Ock. Wolverine would get gutted by Carnage and thrown away. Poor thing. 🙁 lol

Doesn't matter much really because they both lose. I'm not about to waste too much time arguing about how bad each one loses. Neither really stand much of a chance and anybody who argues otherwise is well...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No he stormed the Bugle looking to kill Jameson I believe, I'll have to look it up. I'm either at work or I'm in the bed, like I was.

With them wouldn't be good, depends on locale. Without he'd be facing a tougher semi-Ock. Wolverine would get gutted by Carnage and thrown away. Poor thing. 🙁 lol

Doesn't matter much really because they both lose. I'm not about to waste too much time arguing about how bad each one loses. Neither really stand much of a chance and anybody who argues otherwise is well...

......what location could possibly prevent spiderman from not dropping from pheramones.....that just striaght up reaching........ Omega red would drop spiderman vastly faster then carnage would drop wolverine. Unlike carnage red is not an idiot. No with out it he facing vastly improved ock who posses far greater strength, durability, speed, reflexes, stamina , damage soak and last but not least fighting skills.

There a difference between losing a fight and litterally being dropped within seconds of the battle.......big differencem, the stompaage red lays on spiderman is laughable.

616 Red>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ultimate who to my knowledge has display almost nothing outside limited superhuman strength and tenticals.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
He has never fought him in 616 marvel. You are refferring to ulitmate omega red who is an enemy of ultimate spiderman.

......what location could possibly prevent spiderman from not dropping from pheramones.....that just striaght up reaching........ Omega red would drop spiderman vastly faster then carnage would drop wolverine. Unlike carnage red is not an idiot. No with out it he facing vastly improved ock who posses far greater strength, durability, speed, reflexes, stamina , damage soak and last but not least fighting skills.

There a difference between losing a fight and litterally being dropped within seconds of the battle.......big differencem, the stompaage red lays on spiderman is laughable.

Wolverine is facing a vastly improved blend of Wolverine and Spiderman together, far stronger, and Wolverine can't really do anything to them, he is highly resistant against all types of damage in his peak form. They both don't stand a great chance, so why argue it. Seriously what is Wolverine going to do to carnage. Carnage tosses him aside like a used condom. Can you admit that? I have no problem admitting Spiderman loses to Red.

Of course Carver said that Classic Spiderman is unbeatable.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not really reaching because they both lose... and both versions are weakened out of 616 universe (if what you are saying is right) I'd have to read it again. I don't recall him ever being a foe t hough.

Wolverine is facing a vastly improved blend of Wolverine and Spiderman together, far stronger, and Wolverine can't really do anything to them, he is highly resistant against all types of damage in his peak form. They both don't stand a great chance, so why argue it. Seriously what is Wolverine going to do to carnage. Carnage tosses him aside like a used condom. Can you admit that? I have no problem admitting Spiderman loses to Red.

Of course Carver said that Classic Spiderman is unbeatable.

You do though, you said based on location, but any location does not matter, becuase spiderman can't do shit to stop the pheramones. It like ok fight starts spiderman passes out from pheramones before he moves........

Yea carver says a lot of things, I like some one to try and give me a reasonable explanation for spiderman even beating red once lol. But hey I even had some one trying to argue batman beating red or taking 3 wins out of 10 lol