Originally posted by -K-M-
Talk about bittersweet, anyone see Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths?Also why were Dark X-Men scans banned for the ID battle?
Because they can’t tell if Shaman X-Man in Dark X-Men is a little stronger/weaker then the one drafted.
Oh but its perfectly ok to draw points of reference from Onslaught’s weaker/stronger moments. facepalm
Originally posted by "Id"
Sorry unfunny jokes, grants you zero Leo points. uhuh
i wish i understood this . . . 🙁
so if it WAS funny you'd GET leo points? i think that's a compliment . . . 😕
and the dark x-man stuff really isn't difficult at all. prove his base level now is the same level as it was before his "death".
if you can't, then we have no way to know it's the same character. they seem legitimately different to me and have shown different abilities. seriously. what's so hard about that . . . .?
Originally posted by leonidas
if you can't, then we have no way to know it's the same character. they seem legitimately different to meand have shown different abilities . seriously. what's so hard about that . . . .?
Copier as that's what I said. I was more curious why they were banned here and not in our match.
Originally posted by leonidas
i wish i understood this . . . 🙁so if it WAS funny you'd GET leo points? i think that's a compliment . . . 😕
and the dark x-man stuff really isn't difficult at all. prove his base level now is the same level as it was before his "death".
if you can't, then we have no way to know it's the same character. they seem legitimately different to me and have shown different abilities. seriously. what's so hard about that . . . .?
“He's near omnipotent, the mutant shaman, and he's terrifying to my cast of characters, Cornell said. That's because he's exactly what they don't want in play right now: a very powerful, charismatic, alternative leader of mutant affairs. And a Summers, to boot. X-Man is dreaming his way back into the world, the deadliest possible hero.
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22476
Originally posted by -K-M-
Copier as that's what I said. I was more curious why they were banned here and not in our match.
fair point. not sure either, tbh . . . 😬
though they really didn't impact the match since no one bought the 'psychic drain' of loki and talisman anyway. 😂
(didn't think they would . . . )
Originally posted by "Id"
There was one Dark X-Men character that Cornell could talk about in some detail though. He's not a team member, he's a target. His name is Nate Grey AKA X-Man. The son of an alternate reality's Jean Grey and Cyclops, Grey first appeared in the 90's X-Men storyline The Age of Apocalypse. At the close of that storyline he found himself in the mainstream Marvel Universe where he put his vast mutant powers to work as a hero. During one of those exploits it looked like Nate sacrificed his life to save the world from alien invasion and Dark X-Men marks his return to the Marvel Universe.“He's near omnipotent, the mutant shaman, and he's terrifying to my cast of characters, Cornell said. That's because he's exactly what they don't want in play right now: a very powerful, charismatic, alternative leader of mutant affairs. And a Summers, to boot. X-Man is dreaming his way back into the world, the deadliest possible hero.
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22476
still not on panel. perhaps he'll live up to this hype, but he HAS shown different abilities, seems different personality wise as well. maybe he'll just take time to get back to his old self.
regardless, on panel they seem quite different so the ruling makes perfect sense though we would have loved to use the psychic energy drain scans.
Originally posted by leonidas
still not on panel. perhaps he'll live up to this hype, but he HAS shown different abilities, seems different personality wise as well. maybe he'll just take time to get back to his old self.regardless, on panel they seem quite different so the ruling makes perfect sense though we would have loved to use the psychic energy drain scans.
The ruling is based on the fact that you cant determine it’s the same character, because the writers decided to show off a little more of his exotic psi? Yet its clearly stated to be the same character, as far as pointing out his back story, and the clause for his return. 😬
His personality seems off, well he is being written by a different writer after all.
Does that make sense to you? Are you aware that most of those new exotic abilities, are really nothing more then same old, only rehashed with more finesse?
Originally posted by "Id"
The ruling is based on the fact that you cant determine it’s the same character, because the writers decided to show off a little more of his exotic psi? Yet its clearly stated to be the same character, as far as pointing our back story, and the clause for his return. 😬His personality seems off, well he is being written by a different writer after all.
Does that make sense to you? Are you aware that most of those new exotic abilities, are really nothing more then same old, only rehashed with more finesse?
not really. never saw him drain someone before. never saw him control time like he was shown to be able to do.
regardless of that, you COULD very well be right. fact is, we just don't have on-panel proof yet. you say he was amped, but that 'amp' certainly didn't seem to make him the world-destroying threat shaman was stated to be. the allusions to shaman's powers were enormous. multiversal feats, easily withstanding world-destroying blasts. THIS nate has done NOTHING like that. yet. so, since we don't know for sure, and their feats don't match up, bats was right in deciding as he did.
and it WAS a 2-way street, so i don't see what the deal is. 😬
Id,
You may not like the ruling, but the simple fact is: showings from Dark X-Men were ruled illegal. End of story. You openly disagreeing with that ruling here won't accomplish anything... The bottom line is that we were forbade from using any feats from that arc against you guys, thus it'd be downright unfair if you were allowed to use them against us.
Accept it and move on.
when byrne wrote superman, it was STILL superman, but he had a vastly different take on him.
different writers CREATE different versions of the same character. if byrne supes fought current supes, he'd get slaughtered. but they are BOTH still superman.
that's why we go by what the character has done ON PANEL.
Originally posted by leonidas
when byrne wrote superman, it was STILL superman, but he had a vastly different take on him.different writers CREATE different versions of the same character. if byrne supes fought current supes, he'd get slaughtered. but they are BOTH still superman.
that's why we go by what the character has done ON PANEL.
Nate Grey's identity is confirmed on panel, in Dark X-Men #2.
Seriously I am drawings strays as to why a blanket ban was issued. Its obvious that is Nate Grey, as its confirmed by the comic, and the writer.