Batdude123 and TheKahn's Holiday Herald Tournament

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Originally posted by darthgoober
And are we only talking about actual teleportation

Bingo.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What all are you guys talking about in regards to teleportation? I mean are you talking about just teleporting your opponents or yourself too? And are we only talking about actual teleportation or is the "no loopholes" thing being used to include every form of it? For instance, would Martian Manhunter be able to turn intangible even though he's technically shifting his mass to another dimension?

Intangibility is a different ability and is allowable.

The reason we're not allowing any teleportation is that we felt it might be misused as other abilities in past tourneys have been. I'm sorry if this affects anyone's plans but there is still plenty of time to adapt to the rules and other herald level characters to draft.

It'd probably be wise to have a backup plan in case Val and Jason don't show up.

Originally posted by Philosophía
It'd probably be wise to have a backup plan in case Val and Jason don't show up.

More teams are still more than welcomed to join, but if those two don't participate in the next rounds of the draft - we'll release their character back into the pool.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Intangibility is a different ability and is allowable.

The reason we're not allowing any teleportation is that we felt it might be misused as other abilities in past tourneys have been. I'm sorry if this affects anyone's plans but there is still plenty of time to adapt to the rules and other herald level characters to draft.


What about teleportation on things like attacks/constructs?

And don't think I'm trying to raising a fuss or anything cause I'm not(Blair and I haven't even talked about strategies involving teleportation at this point), I'm just want to know as much as possible about what's allowed to avoid "loophole" arguments later on.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What about teleportation on things like attacks/constructs?

And don't think I'm trying to raising a fuss or anything cause I'm not(Blair and I haven't even talked about strategies involving teleportation at this point), I'm just want to know as much as possible about what's allowed to avoid "loophole" arguments later on.

I appreciate you're trying to get this cleared up before the fights and we're more than happy to address any questions you have.

I don't think we're going to allow any type of teleportation (constructs or attacks) but you are certainly allowed to create a construct at a distance from your team assuming you're character is capable of such an act.

Why not just ban instant-kills and leave teleportation legal?

Anyone looking for a partner? If so, i'm in (that is, i want to compete and am actively seeking a partner to team up with).

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why not just ban instant-kills and leave teleportation legal?

Its more than the instant-kill ability that concerns us with teleportation. Its the risk that the fight can be prolonged indefinitely with a series of team-wide retreats (whereby injuries could be healed or more equipment be made), that a team could essentially gain extra prep time by teleporting away at the start of the fight, or that a team could unilaterally change the setting of the fight by forcing the opposition to follow them to continue the fight. 😬

We're just trying to eliminate potential problems now so that they don't come up at the last minute and put someone at an unfair disadvantage.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Anyone looking for a partner? If so, i'm in (that is, i want to compete and am actively seeking a partner to team up with).
What character(s) are you thinking of ? (PM prefferably 😂 )

This is just a suggestion, but the Round 1 of the Draft is still open. So if any new teams want to draft a character before Round 2 starts, they need to do so before 8pm EST tonight (dec. 21) 🙂

Originally posted by TheKahn
Its more than the instant-kill ability that concerns us with teleportation. Its the risk that the fight can be prolonged indefinitely with a series of team-wide retreats (whereby injuries could be healed or more equipment be made), that a team could essentially gain extra prep time by teleporting away at the start of the fight, or that a team could unilaterally change the setting of the fight by forcing the opposition to follow them to continue the fight. 😬

We're just trying to eliminate potential problems now so that they don't come up at the last minute and put someone at an unfair disadvantage.


Then ban leaving the battlefield. That's a rule just about every tourney i've been in has had.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Then ban leaving the battlefield. That's a rule just about every tourney i've been in has had.

That's certainly one solution. But given that this is a herald level tourney, the battlefields might end up being quite large - making teleportation still exploitable. 😬

I don't know where you got the idea this was such an issue. There have been many loopholes involved in herald tourneys in the past, but never have I seen teleportation be an issue other than the things i've already mentioned. I think you're being too paranoid.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't know where you got the idea this was such an issue. There have been many loopholes involved in herald tourneys in the past, but never have I seen teleportation be an issue other than the things i've already mentioned. I think you're being too paranoid.

Possibly, but better safe than sorry. 🙂

No, not really, especially when you're banning an extremely commonplace power with many legitimate uses.

Teleportation is banned.

Get over it.

Confirmed Teams and Drafted Characters

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL)

Team darthgoober/Blair Wind - Silver Surfer

Team Omega Vision & JL - Wally West (Flash)

Team JaketheBank - Thor

Team Twig & Berries (Ha Son and Validus) - Superman

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL)

Draft Round 2: Monday, Dec. 21 8pm EST

After the third draft round is over and before the actual battles start, we are going to have a "character trade" thread.

This means that if one team desires to have a character from another team on their side, they must offer one of their choices as a trade in order to get him.

Drafting Format

One person will debate for one character on a given team, the other person will debate for the 2nd character, and then they can both use/share the last character for debating.

That means both debaters will have to declare who they are going to be debating with. However, this does not have to be determined/announced until after the drafting and trade rounds are finished.