Of course a villian displayed will give heroes trouble, hell DS took out several members of the JL. Carnage and Venom are faster than Spiderman, and Carnage uses his.
Gorgon has high superhuman abilities, Elektra does not, Elektra has beaten Wolverine though..... Wolverine outsmarted Gorgon, and didn't Cap do the same?
Well that is PIS, no way is he faster than characters like quicksilver. He's damned fast, but...
Gorgon isn't faster than a bullet.
Blah blah blah, circle circle circle.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Of course a villian displayed will give heroes trouble, hell DS took out several members of the JL. Carnage and Venom are faster than Spiderman, and Carnage uses his.Gorgon has high superhuman abilities, Elektra does not, Elektra has beaten Wolverine though..... Wolverine outsmarted Gorgon, and didn't Cap do the same?
Well that is PIS, no way is he faster than characters like quicksilver. He's damned fast, but...
Gorgon isn't faster than a bullet.
Blah blah blah, circle circle circle.
HHHHMMM, I think gorgon reflexes could be faster than QS and I also think that gorgon is faster than a bullet.
Here we have gorgon in a tree looking at wolverine fight from a far distance.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3919/gorgonpreparingtostrike.jpg
Then we have gorgon instantly running behind wolverine stabbing him in the back before wolverine could react. So he ran all the way from the tree to stab wolverine, who possess super speed, in the back before he even had the time to react.
That look like some quicksilver sh** to me.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9845/sneakattack1.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4935/sneakattack2.jpg
Then read what wolverine say while being stabbed.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ok but they aren't analogous to what is going on in the forum, different situations for each.You do actually believe he's faster than characters like QS and Flash?
LOL, not the flash but QS, I think his reflexes is on par with him. The guy has some amazing speed feats.
Can quicksilver move faster than the speed thought?
Originally posted by carver9
LOL, not the flash but QS, I think his reflexes is on par with him. The guy has some amazing speed feats.Can quicksilver move faster than the speed thought?
Not sure, but if I recall my old my old X-Factor correctly I think QS "thinks" or perceives the world in an accelerated rate (somewhat contributing to his impatience and general *******-ishness) so he might actually be able move faster than a normal person can think.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Correct, like Flash their thought processes are much, much faster, hence speedlitzes on telepaths.
I agree but we seen scans of gorgon thought process compared to humans and he completed and did entire things before a group of hand ninjas even noticed him or had the time to attack. So his thought process is on another level also.
Originally posted by carver9
AAAANNNNDDDD?That was classic Spidey and that feat wasnt impressive.
Wolverine has went h2h with speedster (speed demon), TWICE, and he still commented on no one is as fast as the gorgon.
1. what do you mean by classic Spidey?
2. Wolverine wasn't keeping up with Speed Demon he just figured out where he would pop up next BIG difference, I already stated that the last time you posted that
3. It is impressive cause this guy was already running and Spidey was fast enough to web up a complete cage before he could fled.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
1. what do you mean by classic Spidey?2. Wolverine wasn't keeping up with Speed Demon he just figured out where he would pop up next BIG difference, I already stated that the last time you posted that
3. It is impressive cause this guy was already running and Spidey was fast enough to web up a complete cage before he could fled.
Classic spidey as in the same classic spidey that was untouchable and the same classic spidey that matched the entire xmen physically and dominated them. Classic spidey was like precrisis superman, unbeatable.
Ok, you have speed demon running at full pace and wolverine bouncing around keeping up with him. He outsped speed demon that was running with super speed. In order for him to jump IN FRONT of him with a punch he would need to BEAT him to that destination which is what he did.
Its not impressive because as soon as he tried to run the webbing was already there.
Originally posted by carver9
Classic spidey as in the same classic spidey that was untouchable and the same classic spidey that matched the entire xmen physically and dominated them. Classic spidey was like precrisis superman, unbeatable.Ok, you have speed demon running at full pace and wolverine bouncing around keeping up with him. He outsped speed demon that was running with super speed. In order for him to jump IN FRONT of him with a punch he would need to BEAT him to that destination which is what he did.
Its not impressive because as soon as he tried to run the webbing was already there.
precrisis Supes was depowered after the crisis (of course) Spidey never really had something like that except the Morlun evolve or die stuff wich was 1. long after that and 2. only his new gained powers where retconned there was no sign of a strength/sped upgrade etc.
post the scan again please
Yeah, so Spidey with his webbing was faster than a Speedster, simple really
Originally posted by Parmaniac
precrisis Supes was depowered after the crisis (of course) Spidey never really had something like that except the Morlun evolve or die stuff wich was 1. long after that and 2. only his new gained powers where retconned there was no sign of a strength/sped upgrade etc.post the scan again please
Yeah, so Spidey with his webbing was faster than a Speedster, simple really
Spidey was at the top of his game during the beginning; you should know this.
You have one instance of him OWNING the entire xmen, then you have another instance of him saying right after that, that wolverine is faster than him.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
precrisis Supes was depowered after the crisis (of course) Spidey never really had something like that except the Morlun evolve or die stuff wich was 1. long after that and 2. only his new gained powers where retconned there was no sign of a strength/sped upgrade etc.post the scan again please
Yeah, so Spidey with his webbing was faster than a Speedster, simple really
Here ya go, you have speed demon running and Wolverine keeping up with him. No matter how much timing anyone have, you would have to have some kind of Super speed to keep up with a speedster and land a punch.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg
Then we have this.
Originally posted by carver9
Here ya go, you have speed demon running and Wolverine keeping up with him. No matter how much timing anyone have, you would have to have some kind of Super speed to keep up with a speedster and land a punch.http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg
Then we have this.
Highly arguable I think you overinterpret that scan, it seems more that the artist doesn't wanted to draw lots of panels instead he drew Speed Demon running and Wolverine trying to hit him, otherwise it would be ratarded that Wolverine states: "I figure out WHERE they're gonna pop up NEXT" it's not really hard to figure out where someone pops up next who's running straight forward unless you're a complete retard 😂
but even if you really want to use it here you have this
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1778/speedkeepingupwithspeed.gif
to the second one here you have this:
Originally posted by carver9
It doesnt matter, the feat wasnt impressive.
😆 I take that as a confession
but here's another one
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1210/scan0007.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7540/scan0008t.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7130/scan0010a.jpg
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2450/scan0013p.jpg
And just to cake it all up so that gorgon wont be brought up again against spiderman, two different levels. Here ya go:
Gorgon chopping up some hand ninjas before they can even react, creating after images.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2563/origin3.jpg
This proves that hes faster than a bullet. Slapping bullets out of the way without even breaking a sweat.
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/456/gorgonvselektra2.jpg
Wolverine comments on his speed again and THEN hes defeats wolverine and elektra and they surprised attacked him.
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9397/gorgonvswolverineelektr.jpg
THEN he beats up some hand ninja including wolverine but thats not the point of this scan, look how he takes the hand ninjas out, look at the speed that is displayed.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9397/gorgonvswolverineelektr.jpg
Another speed feat, take out a group of shield agents before they even got the chance to move a muscle and he's creating those lovely after images again.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3632/gorgonvsshield1.jpg
This scan and the one before it, he teleport to the building IN FRONT OF SOME SHIELD AGENTS. Grab elektra, have a convo with her telepathically, and then he snaps her neck. He does all of this before the agents even notice him and again, they were right behind him.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2107/telepathy2.jpg
Then he deflects bullets again like its roses coming at him in slow motion.
