Captain America vs Elektra

Originally posted by namorsubby
cap.

i honestly think elektra gets a little over-rated sometimes

she's the greatest ninja on the planet, who has demonstrated the ability to WTFPWN wolverine at will, genuinly toying with him, she paralized him within a few moves ffs...

Originally posted by Juk3n
she's the greatest ninja on the planet, who has demonstrated the ability to WTFPWN wolverine at will, genuinly toying with him, she paralized him within a few moves ffs...

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon

Probably stronger and more durable too.

Originally posted by Juk3n
she's the greatest ninja on the planet, who has demonstrated the ability to WTFPWN wolverine at will, genuinly toying with him, she paralized him within a few moves ffs...

BTW, she is the greastest ninja.........but all the other ninjas suck.......they get destroyed by the tons just like all the other henchman

captain america FTW

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Elektra.

Much, much faster than Cap.
Probably stronger and more durable too.

wow you sir are one retarded **** arent you? cap is by far stronger and more durable then elektra you idiot god

Originally posted by gogoogadgetgo
wow you sir are one retarded **** arent you? cap is by far stronger and more durable then elektra you idiot god

Originally posted by gogoogadgetgo
wow you sir are one retarded **** arent you? cap is by far stronger and more durable then elektra you idiot god

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Hey now I am all for Elektra and all, but lets clarify a few things with context. She really never pwned him. We have that one event were wolverine had the mind of a beast. We have another were he play her for a sap to get to the sword and techincally won. Then we have that maybe cannon fight were he had her dead to rights at the end of the fight and she stated he was better then her, but his unwilliness to kill her gave her an edge. Then there was the enemy of the state instance in which she used plot device off 20 plus shield agents to gain an advantage. Then there reember which may be cannon, was a book pritty much and had quite a few contradictions if I remeber correctly

She stated he was better than her, and then asked him why he always lost to her. She was referencing his physical advantages are how they were inferior to her power set.

She was also thrashing him around like a chump shortly after the Weapon X crap ended. His HF and memories were screwed up though so it's just another plotty encounter.

Then there was Wolverine stating on panel during the Gorgon fight that went something like, "Since Elektra, worlds greatest ninja, was taken out what chance do I have?"

Taking all of these encounters as a whole, I think it's safe to say Elektra is, at the very least, Wolverine's equal in combat. I would personally put her slightly above him but I acknowledge she's always been my favorite Marvel character and I'm probably a tad bias.

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Anyway, what's Cap's best strength feat? Elektra's got some crazy stuff but all high end street levelers do.

I'd say they're probably on par with each other durability wise. She's taken some nasty hits.

In a comic Elektra wold lose.. you know because it's CAPTAIN AMERICA.
But no PIS no CIS she'd take slight majority even without tp. With tp and chi-amp she'd stomp him.

Originally posted by Konton
She stated he was better than her, and then asked him why he always lost to her. She was referencing his physical advantages are how they were inferior to her power set.

She was also thrashing him around like a chump shortly after the Weapon X crap ended. His HF and memories were screwed up though so it's just another plotty encounter.

Then there was Wolverine stating on panel during the Gorgon fight that went something like, "Since Elektra, worlds greatest ninja, was taken out what chance do I have?"

Taking all of these encounters as a whole, I think it's safe to say Elektra is, at the very least, Wolverine's equal in combat. I would personally put her slightly above him but I acknowledge she's always been my favorite Marvel character and I'm probably a tad bias.

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Anyway, what's Cap's best strength feat? Elektra's got some crazy stuff but all high end street levelers do.

I'd say they're probably on par with each other durability wise. She's taken some nasty hits.

Rope snapping

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Avengers027-17.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica-WhatPriceGlory004-04.jpg

Chain Breaking

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/11.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/46.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica277-InThyImage--Snapp.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmericav302605.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica252-ColdFire-04.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica252-ColdFire-05.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica252-ColdFire-06.jpg

Random strength Feats

Cap hefts a compressed air tank with one hand to the surprise of on looking workers
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/avengers_v1_235_01_rougher.jpg

Cap bending a large palm tree
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Avengersv100719.jpg

Cap breaks down a reinforced door that Nick Fury tells him he‘ll bounce off of
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Aven4ever07-16.jpg

Cap throws his commanding officer quite a ways with one arm(twice)
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/ca-22-14.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/ca-22-15.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/ca-22-16.jpg

Cap throws a body builder quite a ways with one arm
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica-154-TheFalconFightsA.jpg

An injured Cap breaks down a reinforced steel door
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CA-MedusaEffect048.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CA-MedusaEffect049.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CA-MedusaEffect050.jpg

Cap pulls a supply truck(with a busted axle) through the dessert
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/caDMR2pg03.jpg

Cap throws an anchor with one hand
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica-Annual12-1993-TheBat.jpg

Cap deflects the falling top of a cement tower with a kick
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica-135-MoreMonsterthanM.jpg

Cap caries two men(who’ve been turned to stone by the Grey Gargoyle) at a time
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica-141-TheUnholyAllianc.jpg

Cap throwing some large spools of cable with one arm
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica-WhatPriceGlory003-19.jpg

Cap supports rubble from a collapsed building with one arm
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica228-ASerpentlurksBelo.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica229-TraitorsallAbo-1.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica229-TraitorsallAboutm.jpg

Cap snaps a blaster in half with his bare hands
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica231-Aftermath-03.jpg

Cap lifts a burning beam that has Daredevil pinned
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica235-ToStalktheKill-1.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica235-ToStalktheKillerS.jpg

Throws off 4 Nazi soldiers
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/TalesofSuspense071_17.jpg

Throws off a large group of sailors
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/tales_of_suspense_91_27.jpg

Cap lets 6 men wrestle him to the ground and then throws them off like rag dolls
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica243-TheLazarusCons-1.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica243-TheLazarusConspir.jpg

Cap pulls a large stone from a wall
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica306-TheSummoning-06.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica306-TheSummoning-07.jpg

Cap rips the steel grill off a tractor
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica339-FalloftheMutantsT.jpg

Cap busts out of a large block of ice
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica444-HopeandGlory-22.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica445-OperationRebir-2.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica445-OperationRebir-1.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmerica445-OperationRebirth0.jpg

Cap lifts a stone statue that’s bigger than he is while chained to it
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmericav305061.jpg

Cap stops 6 soldiers in their tracks with one arm
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Daredevil_233-26.jpg

Pushing a wrecking ball
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/FantasticFour26-19.jpg

Cap throws the 142 lb. Dimondback(her weight in official bios) out of a pit and then makes a 15 foot high jump to grab her outstretched arm(which means he initially threw her OVER 15 feet strait in the air)…
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/cap%20speed/CaptainAmerica361-BloodstoneHunt-1.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/cap%20speed/CaptainAmerica361-BloodstoneHunt05-.jpg

Cap one shots a bunch of Nazi soldiers simultaneously and then comments on his having “the strength of half a platoon of fighting men”
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Invaders_05-02.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Invaders_05-03.jpg

Cap uses Nick Fury’s(I think) body to crack concrete
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Page_13.jpg

Busts through a metal door with a single kick
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/p18.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/p19.jpg

Cap(in disguise) knocks a soldier out the door of a military RV
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/scan0015.jpg

Cap climbs a rope onto Red Skull’s ship while being dragged under water
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/TOS090-1200-21.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/TOS090-1200-24.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/TOS090-1200-25.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/TOS090-1200-26.jpg

Cap lifts a fallen tree over his head
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/SecretDefenders07-03.jpg

Cap throws his shield fast/hard enough to overtake a nuke that's already in flight
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmericav302708.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmericav302709.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/CaptainAmericav302710.jpg

😎 and those ^ were effing BIG chains too

Elektras only avantage here is her speed & agilty - maybe

Originally posted by Konton
She stated he was better than her, and then asked him why he always lost to her. She was referencing his physical advantages are how they were inferior to her power set.

She was also thrashing him around like a chump shortly after the Weapon X crap ended. His HF and memories were screwed up though so it's just another plotty encounter.

Then there was Wolverine stating on panel during the Gorgon fight that went something like, "Since Elektra, worlds greatest ninja, was taken out what chance do I have?"

Taking all of these encounters as a whole, I think it's safe to say Elektra is, at the very least, Wolverine's equal in combat. I would personally put her slightly above him but I acknowledge she's always been my favorite Marvel character and I'm probably a tad bias.

------

Anyway, what's Cap's best strength feat? Elektra's got some crazy stuff but all high end street levelers do.

I'd say they're probably on par with each other durability wise. She's taken some nasty hits.

i don't know too much about elektra, but i've always put her around DD in skill... DD whom Cap mopped the floor with.

So... cap.

Elektra does the chain thing.

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=chains.jpg

Does the smash down giant golden door thing.

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=doorkick2.jpg

Crushes a man's head with her grip strength.

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=facecrusher.jpg

Lugs a man up a ladder with one hand after being on the run for a time.

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=minimalstrength.jpg

She takes a slam from Luke like it was common.

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=lukecage-1.jpg

One shots a nearly indestructible cyborg with an antique katana.

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=Perry4.jpg

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=Perry1.jpg

Swats away Wolverine and Mac casually.

http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view&current=mac.jpg

She also broke out of a straight jacket.
Was punching holes through people during her Elektra: Assassin run.
Threw a sai so hard it went through the barrel of a gun and took off some cannon fodders hand.
She was moving so fast under water she was a blur.

She was taking down SKRULLS. She was taking hits from Colossus' Skrull.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Originally posted by carver9
When did gorgon fight stonewall?

Secret Warriors #6.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No there not. She carries and assortment of weapons as standard equipment. She uses her swords jsut as frequently as she would sia's. She also uses frequently an assortment of range wepaons.

It unfair to limit her equipment to sai's.

Sai's are primarily defensive weapons designed to fight piercing weapons such as swords.

So yes they be rather useless against a shield.

False. for every time you show me that she uses a different weapon I can show you 3 different times she used her sais. It is common sense that sais is her standard gear and nothing else.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Elektra.

Much, much faster than Cap.
Probably stronger and more durable too.

You guys need to go somewhere for real.

Cap is the fastest peak human in comics.
He is also the strongest and most durable of them too. This fight is stupid. A more interesting fight would be Steve with no shield vs. Elektra with sais.

no contest about his superior strenght & durablity...but speed? 🤨 what r Caps best speed feats?

(yeah in know hes suppose to have dodge a bullet but iirc it look more like he knew where it was gonna be fired before it was fired. not sure tho)

anyway her speed is her only chance to get a few wins (if any)

Originally posted by h1a8
You guys need to go somewhere for real.

Cap is the fastest peak human in comics.
He is also the strongest and most durable of them too. This fight is stupid.

Cap is not faster than Elektra, not in movement, OR reaction/combat speed. Deflecting individual bullets with her sais is >> anything Cap has on panel. And i am hugely Cap Bias.

And as for him being (so cut and dry) "The strongest and most durable" There's a 100 billion page Batman vs Cap thread a few places down that might beg to differ. But if you have such conclusive proof, please share it.

Or is this another "Spider-man could never be hit by a street leveller" argument, where your own opinions take precident over the facts? 🙄

Captain america is the perfect human specimen, granted human physicality to the peak of abilities, and that includes strength, stamina, and others as well as speed and reaction time.

just coz elektra is written and drawn with her sweet ninja moves does not make her faster than cap.

You telling me that a human (altho superbly conditioned) is faster than someone who is one notch above the peak human? So what's the use of the super soldier serum if normal people can just train extremely hard and be just as good as you? And she's woman to boot. No matter what anyone says, an equally trained man will always be faster (with faster reaction time) than an equally trained woman. that's fact.