Crime Statistics by Race

Originally posted by inimalist
Several studies, likely dating back over 20 years. Research that consists of a single study is useless in the overall scheme of things 🙂

inter-rater reliability. multiple researchers would judge the content of the interview and they would have to have very similar definitions of the qualities in question (normally assessed in a pilot study). Not as objective as an fMRI, but its not nearly as subjective as one might think. Also, it isn't a single study, and the data together do suggest the same thing (ie: its not just one crazy study or research team).

yes

I learned it as part of a social psych course, so it was mainly in the textbook and I hadn't looked for the studies since.

Cool. Thanks for the info. I DID learn something. 😄

If no one mentioned it, one's environment plays a very large role. If you're born and raised in a ghetto-type area, you're likely to commit more crimes, skin color aside.

Originally posted by chomperx9
theres really no point in explaining you wont understand.

I don't get it. It was already proven in sound studies that you are definitely wrong with your statement.

Further compounding that is the asymmetric unemployment rates among the different races with African Americans experiencing the most unemployment. (During this current financial depression.) It is definitely not all "blacks are lazy." There's waaaaay too many unemployed (relative to white population) to be all part of an African American subculture: especially when you look at similar social strata across the races. (Meaning, there's "rich" black families with great educational backgrounds withOUT jobs, more often, than than white people in the same class.)

There are even organizations on the East Coast that help black people tidy up their application so their race is ambiguous because it really is so hard to get a job as a black person, compared to being white.

Originally posted by chomperx9
topics like these always lead to fights and no one understands one another.

Only because it's blatantly obvious that you're an ignorant racist.

Originally posted by chomperx9
PS your in canada in the states hiring goes a little different now these days so its equal towards others but sometimes its not always equal

This is a strawman argument and does nothing at all to address anything he's stated.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Only because it's blatantly obvious that you're an ignorant racist.

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you gotta problem with it talk to the government. your just one of those immature teens that wants to make someone look bad for no reason when the topic involves another ones race and try to make it into a fight. thats the problem with lots of people today either they are completely stupid or they just love fights.

for example you see more chineese employees at a chineese restaurant usually. ok so that makes me a racist now towards chinnese people for speakign the truth ? not putting them down in any way just making a true statement giving you an example between insults and true statements

Originally posted by chomperx9
hahaha what i posted had nothing to do with involving putting down another ones race i posted information of equal rights on how blacks and females can get jobs easier than most others. i guess that makes me a sexist to for posting true information lol.

you gotta problem with it talk to the government. your just one of those immature teens that wants to make someone look bad for no reason when the topic involves another ones race and try to make it into a fight. thats the problem with lots of people today either they are completely stupid or they just love fights.

for example you see more chineese employees at a chineese restaurant usually. ok so that makes me a racist now towards chinnese people for speakign the truth ? not putting them down in any way just making a true statement giving you an example between insults and true statements

Except that as several people have mentioned all of your "facts" are wrong.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Except that as several people have mentioned all of your "facts" are wrong.

Originally posted by chomperx9
hahaha what i posted had nothing to do with involving putting down another ones race i posted information of equal rights on how blacks and females can get jobs easier than most others. i guess that makes me a sexist to for posting true information lol.

Nice try. But, no. It was an ignorant racist statement. You can't dress it up to be pretty or pass it off as academic. It simply wasn't true.

Originally posted by chomperx9
you gotta problem with it talk to the government. your just one of those immature teens that wants to make someone look bad for no reason when the topic involves another ones race and try to make it into a fight. thats the problem with lots of people today either they are completely stupid or they just love fights.

I'm 26, and have 5.5 years of college education under my belt. I'm also married and have 2 children.

And, no, to all of that. I just don't particularly care for ignorance being passed off as fact. Nevermind that it was racist ignorance.

Edit - In fact, you can check my posting history and find sevearl examples of the above statement about facts.

Originally posted by chomperx9
for example you see more chineese employees at a chineese restaurant usually. ok so that makes me a racist now towards chinnese people for speakign the truth ?

Depends, really. Is it a family owned business? I know of a chinese restaurant that is run by a white guy and he employs almost 100% Latin American Immigrants.

You'd be safer in addressing particular establishments to avoid racism.

But, you're point is a strawman. It in no way addresses what was being discussed.

Originally posted by chomperx9
you can google it and see that i am not wrong

No. You can google it and post an academic, peer reviewed, finding to prove that what you said is true.

If I googled it, I'd end up at some psuedo-scientific racist website done by people just as ignorantly racist as you, most likely.

There might be a point in that people who own an establishment that puts on a particular "ethnic air" might hire people who conform to a racial group, but this would also be the opposite of affirmative action. If chomper is arguing that employers should be able to hire whoever they want, he would actually be in favor of Chinese restaurants only hiring Chinese staff.

Further, his point about female checkout staff may also have some truth, but it is almost certainly the choice of the employer to put young female staff at the checkout rather than anything related to affirmative action. People like to interact with young girls over young men, old men or old women. Similarly, the presence of black tellers at these places could also be seen as a deliberate choice by the employer to offer services to people who feel they would be better served by a black employee.

The two cent version is this: The proofs chomper is using to show the "racism" of affirmative action are almost certainly related to the choices of the employer rather than to any affirmative action laws. This means, in the ideal world chomper is arguing for, there would be no difference in how people are hired in the particular instances he used.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nice try. But, no. It was an ignorant racist statement. You can't dress it up to be pretty or pass it off as academic. It simply wasn't true.

YOUR JUST ONE OF THOSE THAT WANTS TO MAKE IT AND HEAR IT AS AN IGNORANT RACIST COMMENT. YOUR JUST ONE OF THOSE THAT HEARS ANY DEFENSE TOWARDS THE WHITES THAT MAKES THE OTHER PERSON RACIST. PUTTING DOWN ANOTHER RACE OR NOT GIVING ANOTHER RACE A CHANCE OR NOT TREAT THEM EQUALLY THAT IS A RACIST. AND MY POST ON EQUAL RIGHTS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING RACIST.

I'm 26, and have 5.5 years of college education under my belt. I'm also married and have 2 children.

And, no, to all of that. I just don't particularly care for ignorance being passed off as fact. Nevermind that it was racist ignorance.

Edit - In fact, you can check my posting history and find sevearl examples of the above statement about facts.

BOTHERS ME THAT AT 26 YOU WANT TO MAKE EVERYTHING TURN INTO RACISM BECAUSE THATS HOW YOU LOOK AT THINGS WHEN SOMEONE EXPLAINS SOMETHING.

IF I SAID THIS WHITES AND MALES CAN GET A JOB EASIER THAN BLACKS BECAUSE COMAPNIES ARE REQUIRED TO HIRE SO MANY WHITES AND MALES. DOES THAT MAKE ME A RACIST TOWARDS WHITES ?

Depends, really. Is it a family owned business? I know of a chinese restaurant that is run by a white guy and he employs almost 100% Latin American Immigrants.

You'd be safer in addressing particular establishments to avoid racism.

IT DOESNT INVOLVE RACISM UNLESS YOU CHOOSE TO HEAR IT AS A RACISM. ONCE AGAIN SPEAKING THE TRUTH OF HOW SOMETHING GOES ON THE WORLD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING RACIST.
But, you're point is a strawman. It in no way addresses what was being discussed.

No. You can google it and post an academic, peer reviewed, finding to prove that what you said is true.

I BET IF I JUST POST THE LINK YOUR JUST GONNA SAY TO ME IM A BIGGER RACIST OR SOMETHING. I KNOW YOUR KIND NOW

If I googled it, I'd end up at some psuedo-scientific racist website done by people just as ignorantly racist as you, most likely

I HOPE FOR YOUR CHILDRENS SAKE THEY GET A BETTER EDUCATION AND ARE NOT SO SENSITIVE AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFERENCE BETWEEN INSULTS AND TRUE FACTS.

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Originally posted by chomperx9

But you didn't speak the truth. You spit out some false incorrect racist ideas that have been heard much more than once from...get this...racists.

Also, "you know my kind", huh?

Why don't you read the thread from the beginning.

Again, all your other points are strawman arguments and don't actually address what is being discussed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But you didn't speak the truth. You spit out some false incorrect racist ideas that have been heard much more than once from...get this...racists.

Also, "you know my kind", huh?

Why don't you read the thread from the beginning.

Again, all your other points are strawman arguments and don't actually address what is being discussed.

and calling the governemt racists for equal rights really doesnt sound right if you think about it. they made an agreement on this years back dont know how long now but its for everyone no matter the race or gender to have equal job opportunities which sounds fair dont you think ? why should that be racist ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
to you its false because you havent heard this information before. Why don't you read the thread from the begginning.

I do believe I've indicated I have "heard" this stuff before. Reread my posts and tell me when you find it. Then comment on that.

Originally posted by chomperx9
just becaus you arent aware of something does not make it false. and ok yeah we got off topic a little like this is the 1st time thats happened on a forum come on now.

See my above point. And, I wasn't referring to being off-topic to the opening post, I was referring to your attempts to change the subject from what you had originally posted to what I responded with.

Originally posted by chomperx9
and calling the governemt racists for equal rights really doesnt sound right if you think about it. they made an agreement on this years back dont know how long now but its for everyone no matter the race or gender to have equal job opportunities which sounds fair dont you think ? why should that be racist ?

When I did you or I call the government racist? I'm confused.

And, the US government has a nice long history of racism and race discrimination. Even gender discrimination. (We still have some gender discrimination in affect...and possibly some race based discrimination in the form of laws at both the state and federal level.)

Originally posted by dadudemon

When I did you or I call the government racist? I'm confused.

and if you heard this information before why are you accusing me of racism when you have heard it from others. someone posting information on what someone else has heard does not make that one racist.

Originally posted by chomperx9
by saying my comments were racist on information that came from the government. and how was i changing the subject ?

Ah. Okay. So, an unsubstantiated claim of yours, that was racist and incorrect, btw.

And, the very nature of strawman is to change the subject, but not actually counter the point presented.

Originally posted by chomperx9
and if you heard this information before why are you accusing me of racism when you have heard it from others. someone posting information on what someone else has heard does not make that one racist.

I guess you didn't go back and reread my posts. You wouldn't be asking that question, had you done that. Go back and reread my posts to you, from today. Once you find it, get back to me. I'll be available until midnight, CST.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Ah. Okay. So, an unsubstantiated claim of yours, that was racist and incorrect, btw.

And, the very nature of strawman is to change the subject, but not actually counter the point presented.

I guess you didn't go back and reread my posts. You wouldn't be asking that question, had you done that. Go back and reread my posts to you, from today. Once you find it, get back to me. I'll be available until midnight, CST.

and to you maybe the claim might be incorrect but it does not make one a racist

my buddy just bought a used black volvo. he was complaining about all the scratches it had on it compared to the other cars in the lot. i explained to him that black vehicles you can see scratches and dents more than white vehicles. does that make me a racist there ?

It's clinically proven that due to actually mating with the cockroach, modern white people can survive a nuclear explosion, whereas other races will perish.

Japanese might as well, but that's just because.

You Mexicans and blacks are doomed.

Originally posted by One Free Man
It's clinically proven that due to actually mating with the cockroach, modern white people can survive a nuclear explosion, whereas other races will perish.

Japanese might as well, but that's just because.

You Mexicans and blacks are doomed.

I vote for the Chinese. If whole world gets destroyed today, they'll rebuild it tomorrow and invent hover cars by midday. By 5pm they would colonize Mars. Who knows where the Chinese will be by Monday afternoon...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I vote for the Chinese. If whole world gets destroyed today, they'll rebuild it tomorrow and invent hover cars by midday. By 5pm they would colonize Mars. Who knows where the Chinese will be by Monday afternoon...

Japanese are the more innovative type. I mean, they invented electricity! dur

edit: of course, I'm one of those people who likes to satire racism more than I care about it.

Originally posted by chomperx9
youll be available till midnight on here arguing with people who you dont give a damn about when you can be spending time with your kids. and i read your previous posts you still dont understand where im getting at.

No, it's cause I'm work, working till midnight, on the weekend before Christmas. Can you guess how many of my users are working at this time? 🙂

But, nice try to attack my character instead of actually addressing the point. You do know that that was another strawman attempt, don't you? (It was also an ad hominem fallacy, as well.)

Originally posted by chomperx9
and to you maybe the claim might be incorrect but it does not make one a racist

So, you go from saying it's true, to saying it came from a credible source, to saying it was from the government finding, to saying that it might be incorrect, but not necessarily racist.

Now, don't worry about thinking that I have a personal vendetta against you. I don't. I am only addressing your incorrect comment that points to ignorant racism. The lesson you should take from this is verifying your findings before you spew ignorant racism. (Instead of trying to argue for pages.)

Check this out: One time, my coworker told me that our cell phone numbers would be given out to advertisers and that we had to sign up for a "do not call list" to avoid it. It was a hoax, I was wrong. Robtard proved it with a snopes article. Instead of arguing and justyfying my post on multiple pages (like you're trying to do now), I moved on. It's okay to be wrong about a fact. There's not reason to drag things on. There's also no reason to try to make personal attacks against the person who pointed out the wrongness in your post. In fact, my original post was intended more as humor with the smartass "the more you know" images. You took it way too seriously. lol

Originally posted by The Nuul
Title fail......they are all Human as a race.