Lich King gauntlet

Originally posted by K1ll3r

A. Why would he need to survive it, a sun doesn't literally explode and they don't literally get thrown into the sun (Dissidia version). The Lich King would get hit with the power of an exploding star, not Sephiroth.

B. So as soon as Sephiroth does anything the Lich King would immediatly go to the spiritual realm?

A. It sounds to me that theres some word play going on here, apprently its an illusion but it hits with the power of a star? farfetched and I would not believe it until I see the exact words myself stating this. From what i have seen, the whole Supernova move is entirely an illusion, including the damage the target is supposed to "think" its taking, no more.

B. Its a possibility.....not sure what powers he can cast from this realm however.

Originally posted by Burning thought
A. It sounds to me that theres some word play going on here, apprently its an illusion but it hits with the power of a star? farfetched and I would not believe it until I see the exact words myself stating this. From what i have seen, the whole Supernova move is entirely an illusion, including the damage the target is supposed to "think" its taking, no more.

B. Its a possibility.....not sure what powers he can cast from this realm however.

A. Yes Supernova is mostly an Illusion, such as when the sun explodes, or Sephiroth sends them flying into the sun this is what the target\targets thinks is happening. But the damage is very real to the target\targets. You are free to buy the book and read it yourself. 😆

Anyone else seem to remember when Cloud gets shot in AC and is hurt?

The power of an exploding star would vapourise him... Just sayin'.

Supernova doesn't actually have that power.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Anyone else seem to remember when Cloud gets shot in AC and is hurt?

The power of an exploding star would vapourise him... Just sayin'.

Supernova doesn't actually have that power.

Yes it would vapourise him, but when was it used on him?

Show me Supernova being used in canon, it isn't.

Same argument works both ways, show me Sephiroth using it in canon? He didn't? He can't. 😉

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Same argument works both ways, show me Sephiroth using it in canon? He didn't? He can't. 😉

That is completely different and wrong. He is stated in canon to have the ability/spell and what it does.

Do I have to explain how stupid it is for him to have that ability and waste all that time summoning meteor? 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Do I have to explain how stupid it is for him to have that ability and waste all that time summoning meteor? 😐

Can you possibly know less about FF7.

As I have stated before he only wanted to wound the planet not destroy it.

Him having the power to affect a single entity is in contraidciton with him not just vapourising Cloud, the gang, all the weapons in an instant. And so far ive not even seen the proof yet, this is obviously going to be one of those fan hyped sitations where if I actually looked at the source it would have said something very different. Either that or the book is canon but is talking about somethnig completly gameplay "sigh".

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Haha, I wonder what would happen when he tried to eat spiritual energy that were corrupted with Jenova cells. Would he fall under Sephiroths influence? Or would he overpower Sephiroth and be the next incarnation of Jenova (Or just gain Jenovas powers)?

A. Why would he need to survive it, a sun doesn't literally explode and they don't literally get thrown into the sun (Dissidia version). The Lich King would get hit with the power of an exploding star, not Sephiroth.

B. So as soon as Sephiroth does anything the Lich King would immediatly go to the spiritual realm?

Define spiritual protection, this is the only problem with mixing game universes.

Yes it does, HOLY, capable of pushing a 1800 ton airship from the heart of a planet to several kilometers high into the sky (destroying it in the process). Sephiroth held it back. Although there is more to HOLY but that is the only way it can really be quantified.

For note: Sephiroth has insane awareness, he has deflected attacks coming from completely opposite directions that were a split second apart, casually.

Lich King is more into the adding power to his own fetish.

A) Has he ever used the ability for us to see or read? Or has he only been written to have it and the rest is left to our imagination.

B) It is more likely that he start in the Spirit realm. It is his domain after all. Then he would lurk and strike. That, however is based on us excluding his personality, but it seems to be the way to do it on this forum.

Spiritual protection: Would Sephiroth survive if someone attacked his spirit rather than his physical body. That is what Lich King does, he work with your spirit.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Him having the power to affect a single entity is in contraidciton with him not just vapourising Cloud, the gang, all the weapons in an instant.

What? I have no idea what that says.

Originally posted by Burning thought
And so far ive not even seen the proof yet, this is obviously going to be one of those fan hyped sitations where if I actually looked at the source it would have said something very different. Either that or the book is canon but is talking about somethnig completly gameplay "sigh".

These are the things explained in many ultimanias:

Sephiroth has the spell Supernova.
Supernova works a lot like summons.
Supernova has the power of an exploding star.

The only explanation for in gameplay is where it shows what happens when Sephiroth uses it in FF7 which is marked as an illusion that targets see.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Lich King is more into the adding power to his own fetish.

A) Has he ever used the ability for us to see or read? Or has he only been written to have it and the rest is left to our imagination.

B) It is more likely that he start in the Spirit realm. It is his domain after all. Then he would lurk and strike. That, however is based on us excluding his personality, but it seems to be the way to do it on this forum.

Spiritual protection: Would Sephiroth survive if someone attacked his spirit rather than his physical body. That is what Lich King does, he work with your spirit.

But could he wrench control from Sephiroth?

A. Never used the ability outside of gameplay, although it is a special one that only he can use.

Define Sephiroths spirit?

Spirit = Essence of life

I still don't know what Sephiroths spirit is.

Spite, Kain wins.

While he is not part of this gauntlet, I have my doubts he would

Originally posted by Burning thought
If that was true then 10 fold does not sound much of an upgade hmmm...

But anyway nice vid, looks interesting I suppose although I assume this is before the main battle? also she must be overestimating him because obviously an army larger than the horde is not going to be in the final battle with the LK....although he seems impressive.

When she says "greater than the horde" does she mean agains the LK alone, or perhaps could she indirectly mean defeat his armies as well?

Didn't someone in WoW point out that they can't kill the Lich King because then the Undead would run amok or something like that?

If I recall correctly that too me means that Blizzard have just decided that this is one of the guys you aren't meant to kill, you can defeat him but not kill him.

I would prefer that tbh, he is imo a major character who should remain in the series. Killing him off would be like killing Diablo permanently in the Diablo series....

ok im going to ignore link, just because im sick of him and how overrated he is in here.

i think that tirion will give arthas a hard time, but i think he will die, i dont know anything about jack and daxter apart from the little bit from comercials and people playing it in stores, but they dont seem powerful enough to stand against the lich king. aha, now this one i have been wondering for a while now, who would win in a fight the lich king of sephiroth, in this i think it could go either way....hmm probably goes to the lich king in the end (not really arthas, the lich kings raw power is the deciding factor there). kratos would overwhelm him at first, just because he is so insanely strong, and with his own power as well, yeah kratos might take this one, this one i really have no idea about though it really could go either way imo. now neltharion would walk up and arthas would attack and then arthas would be dead, im sorry but he is just way to powerful for either of them imo