Challenge: Who can beat Majin Dark Schneider?

Originally posted by id369
We shall see, in the mean time she is screwed.

Next!coffee1

Originally posted by Starscream M
SSJ4 Gogeta.

Non Cannon.

Topic allows, Comic and Mangas.

Originally posted by id369
Non Cannon.

Topic allows, Comic and Mangas.

Originally posted by Starscream M
mystic Gohan then.

He is a super powered Alien, not a magical base character. Think about it, he would be at a disadvantage given DS actively employs a force and energy nullification field. There goes all his Ki blasts, and power punching/kicking.

Originally posted by id369
He is a super powered Alien, not a magical base character. Think about it, he would be at a disadvantage given DS actively employs a force and energy nullification field. There goes all his Ki blasts, and power punching/kicking.

mystic gohan was ridiculously powerful

If it was a practical shield, he could certainly breach it. But I am not talking about a practical every day shield, like the one Magneto or Thanos employs. Its a magical force field that negates an enemy's attack.

One of those fields mentioned are punch block. If you want to beat the shield, you would need to employ your own field negation to over rule DS.

Otherwise becuse his punches are being negated, DS will take no harm or effect.

comparatively speaking, who is the most powerful character said shield has blocked/canceled out?

Originally posted by Galan007
comparatively speaking, who is the most powerful character said shield has blocked/canceled out?

Give me a few minutes, I will look for the scan.

Talisman? But then again I don't know anything about DS.

Originally posted by id369
Give me a few minutes, I will look for the scan.

Overwriting and negating magical fields played a crucial role, in the match between Fallen Angel Uriel and Dark Schneider.

A description of a Seraphim class Angel.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1364/bastardv16p036.jpg

A description of Uriel.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4702/bastardv17p087.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1267/bastardv17p088.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
well i'm not much on manga, so i wouldn't know how powerful the beings DS battled were anyway - but iyo, which comic book characters would they be close to (power wise)?

I know for certain Classic Dr. Fate and Classic Dr. Strange could beat him now. (apparently he is becoming more powerful).

I believe he is a solid High Herald Mage. Problem is, their aren’t too many High Herald Mages, or I am underestimating the likes of Loki, Zatanna, Shaman, Talisman, etc…

Originally posted by id369
I believe he is a solid High Herald Mage. Problem is, their aren’t too many High Herald Mages, or I am underestimating the likes of Loki, Zatanna, Shaman, Talisman, etc…

Their all definetly high herald level.

Mordru could beat him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Mordru could beat him.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Their all definetly high herald level.

And thus the challenge. Just how well do they stack up against a complete Mage.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Talisman? But then again I don't know anything about DS.

And I don't know a thing about Talisman.

Well she can draw magic from others making her stronger, and she can simply just cancel it out all together leaving people powerless

Magic against her in general is a no-no, but I don't know what DS capabilities are.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Well she can draw magic from others making her stronger, and she can simply just cancel it out all together leaving people powerless

Magic against her in general is a no-no, but I don't know what DS capabilities are.

Sounds a lot like Spel/Dispel Bound.
Spell Bound are the act of placing magic fields to negate attack.
Dispel Bound is the process to break down said magical fields, and depower your foe.

DS benefits from having his physical stats augmented, and incredible regeneration thanks to his Majin Form. Can Talisman keep up with the sheer work rate?

Millions of attacks and counter attacks are produced in one second. - Rafael
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9466/bastard22042.jpg

Naaaa its not a spell to cancel magic she just doesn't it automatically

Originally posted by -K-M-
[b]Talisman I
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Abilities
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Magical Cancellation/Absorption
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Alpha Flight #18 (Vol.1):
Here even before she gained the Talisman of Power she shows she can absorb the mystical energies even from the Elder God, Ranaq and send it right back at him stronger then before

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight18-19.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight18-20.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight18-21.jpg
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Alpha Flight #19 (Vol.1):
Now gaining the Talisman of Power and wearing it for the first time, she repeats the same trick on Ranaq again

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight19-18.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight19-19.jpg
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Alpha Flight #19 (Vol.1): Talisman I
Normal people cannot look into Shaman’s pouch without losing their sanity. It contains the Void, which Shaman himself can’t look at, yet Talisman has looked right into the bag on multiple occasions.

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight19-04.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight19-05.jpg
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Alpha Flight #27 (Vol.1):
After Dark Guardian [Delphine Courtney] steals the unsuspecting Shaman's pouch in order to free Smart Alec. The machine turns the pouch inside out and since Shaman doesn't have control of it he goes out of control. If he was the one who turned it inside out he would have more control [shown in the Avengers scan]. So Talisman and Shaman have to work together, but unlucky for him he must decided to save either Snowbird who he and the rest of Alpha Flight returned back to her people [she lied and stayed with her husband on Earth] or his daughter. If she had experience she could have easily gotten out, but she just recently became Talisman. Alpha Flight is knocked out by Dark Guardian who they thought was the real Mac. Note: Talisman is set free from the Beyonder.

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-12.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-13.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-14.jpg
4. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-15.jpg
5. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-16.jpg
6. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-17.jpg
7. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-18.jpg
8. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-19.jpg
9. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-20.jpg
10. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight27-22.jpg
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Alpha Flight #90 (Vol.1):
Placing Shaman's bag overtop of her head she is defining, collecting and absorbing trillions of magical spells and artifacts to find one spell to help cure the mutated humans.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_090_12.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_090_15.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_090_16.jpg
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Omega Flight #4 of 5:
Even after the Wrecking Crew got augmented by Tanaraq, she still shows she can easily absorb magic. This even shows she can take a hit from a class 100 character with no problem what's so ever

1. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaF_4_0015.jpg
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X-Men/Alpha Flight #1 (Vol.1):
Here Elizibeth who just recently became Talisman and has yet to fully unleash her power, easily neutralizes the Void that had a hold of Heather

1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/XMen_and_Alpha_Flight_1_17.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/XMen_and_Alpha_Flight_1_18.jpg
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X-Men/Alpha Flight #2 (Vol.1):
Here the inexperienced Talisman's power is still so great she easily cancels Loki's spell that altered humans into gods. As noted her powers cancel out magic, even such as Loki's. She cancelled out the Fire Fountain. Loki's spell was destroying the magic in the land nearly killing Snowbird and Shaman, but his spell never worked on Talisman

1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/X-Men_Alpha_Flight_002-08.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/X-Men_Alpha_Flight_002-09.jpg
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No I would say not unless she summons the Spirit of Time and Space. As she can command all spirit forms.

Originally posted by id369
And how could he beat him?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Didn't you say you accept Classic Fate could beat him? Well Mordru stomped Classic Fate.

Why bother to mention him in the first place, if he is above the cap?