Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He wouldn't? What makes you think that? Tell me about Blade's impressive showings against top tiers.
Not again. Spitfire and we can go into how deadly she is. Morbius and a creature that owned Morbius.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Anyway, you want to use that abc logic? Blade's fight with Wolverine is a joke compared to Deathstrike/Logan fights.
Oh c'mon. Blade has never fought Lady Deathstrike before I can't help using ABC logic.
The writer said it was a draw. No you may disagree but if that writers intention was to make it that way then its valid pont of view.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
She was trapped, but otherwise perfectly fine.http://img105.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-29486/loc989/55324_Captain_America_v3_001_3285_122_989lo.jpg (credit to Superiortech)
The scan doesnt work.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine had Guardian's suit and Red's pheromones affected her. He still got owned by them...
It was still 2 vs 1 and Wolverine was depowered.
Originally posted by Deadline
Not again. Spitfire and we can go into how deadly she is. Morbius and a creature that owned Morbius.
Wrecker one-shotted Hulk, but Cap owned him. Twice, IIRC. Losing to Steve is not a shame at all.
Originally posted by Deadline
Oh c'mon. Blade has never fought Lady Deathstrike before I can't help using ABC logic.The writer said it was a draw. No you may disagree but if that writers intention was to make it that way then its valid pont of view.
So Blade gets a vial of vampire blood in this fight, too...?
Originally posted by Deadline
The scan doesnt work.
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Originally posted by Deadline
It was still 2 vs 1 and Wolverine was depowered.
So going by the same logic, Blade pwns Omega Red? 'Cause he got humiliated by powerless Logan?
Healingfactorless Lady D and Sabretooth before his first upgrade stalemated Wolverine till Hunter in Darkness appeared.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wrecker one-shotted Hulk, but Cap owned him. Twice, IIRC. Losing to Steve is not a shame at all.
She didnt lose she was owned.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So Blade gets a vial of vampire blood in this fight, too...?
Its not just that neither of them were 100 into either. Im pretty sure Guggenhem (I could be wrong) stated that Blade was his equal hes just didnt do a good job in portraying it.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Bruv that was four long panels afterwards. She was at least stunned for a while.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So going by the same logic, Blade pwns Omega Red? 'Cause he got humiliated by powerless Logan?
Of course not by OR has never been humiliated by Cap has he?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Healingfactorless Lady D and Sabretooth before his first upgrade stalemated Wolverine till Hunter in Darkness appeared.
Ok shes stalemated him before buts shes been humilated by Wolverine and Cap with her upgrade. Wait are you saying bith Sabre and LD stalemated him?
Blade defeated a creature in h2h that owned Morbius before his upgrade. Thats more impressive.
Originally posted by Deadline
She didnt lose she was owned.
Correct.
Originally posted by Deadline
Its not just that neither of them were 100 into either. Im pretty sure Guggenhem (I could be wrong) stated that Blade was his equal hes just didnt do a good job in portraying it.
Well, then he did a really shitty job in portraying it. Especially when we consider the fact that Logan fought freakin' Rossovich before that.
Originally posted by Deadline
Bruv that was four long panels afterwards. She was at least stunned for a while.
Yet she heard what Akutagawa said and was smiling. We don't know for sure, maybe she was stunned, maybe she wasn't. We can't say she was stunned just because she shut the fck up when someone else was talking. Although the mighty shield bash did stun her 😄
Originally posted by Deadline
Of course not by OR has never been humiliated by Cap has he?
Cap's humiliated more powerful beings, though.
Originally posted by Deadline
Ok shes stalemated him before buts shes been humilated by Wolverine and Cap with her upgrade. Wait are you saying bith Sabre and LD stalemated him?Blade defeated a creature in h2h that owned Morbius before his upgrade. Thats more impressive.
Yep. Actually that was a feat for Wolverine lol. But honestly? Even in that fight LD's performance was better than Blade's and that's telling you something. He'd lose if he didn't get help.
I'm sorry, but wasn't that retconned? I mean, his MAX series is canon, right? And Guggenheim said he was always a half-vampire.
Originally posted by Trackz
blade gave dracula hell before he was enhanced as a vampire, I dunno if using opponents is the best way to gauge this fight.
You mean pre-Daywalker? Was that retconned or not?
Originally posted by Trackz
we can't go "lady deathstrike fought wolverine, and wolverine>all)", I already see that's the argument taking shape, none of that.best way to do this is how these are usually (or at least should be done):
lets see speed for speed, muscle for muscle, who's better.
It's not like that at all. It's just that both of 'em fought Wolverine.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWit was retconned but that doesn't change the fact that he was written with human attributes before, similar to how wolverine has lost to ironfist and such, but that was before he was written as an expert martial artist and such.
You mean pre-Daywalker? Was that retconned or not?It's not like that at all. It's just that both of 'em fought Wolverine.
two completely different fights, wolverine/blade fight shouldn't be usable, I mean neither of them were going all out and although it ended in a stalemate, both sides will argue in favor of one another, a short fight in which neither was trying shouldn't be compared to the brawl she and wolverine had.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Correct.
Cheers.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well, then he did a really shitty job in portraying it. Especially when we consider the fact that Logan fought freakin' Rossovich before that.
It doesnt matter he stated it was a stalemate. I dont think he was that tired, the bottomline is neither of them were trying there best anyway and thats fact. Using a fight were both opponents werent trying there best isn't always a good indication.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yet she heard what Akutagawa said and was smiling. We don't know for sure, maybe she was stunned, maybe she wasn't. We can't say she was stunned just because she shut the fck up when someone else was talking. Although the mighty shield bash did stun her 😄
She was most likely stunned. If you want to go by maybe anythings possible.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cap's humiliated more powerful beings, though.
Yeah but an upgraded Blade has never been owned like that by anybody.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yep. Actually that was a feat for Wolverine lol.
That pretty much cements thats shes going to lose.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But honestly? Even in that fight LD's performance was better than Blade's and that's telling you something. He'd lose if he didn't get help.
It was a stalemate and neither of them were trying there best. Blade said they were equally matched thats probably want the writer thinks.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm sorry, but wasn't that retconned? I mean, his MAX series is canon, right? And Guggenheim said he was always a half-vampire.
Except his bios after the series state he was born human.
Originally posted by DeadlineYep, and there's also the fact that the SHIELD tactitions pegged Blade for the mission. That's another point he was trying to get across that he thought they were close.It was a stalemate and neither of them were trying there best. Blade said they were equally matched thats probably want the writer thinks.
Originally posted by DeadlineInteresting you brought this up. Actually his bios state he was born with the ability to sense the supernatual, immunity to vampire bites and slowed aging. It don't directly say he had the speed, strength, healing etc. of a vampire till after Morbius bit him. His last bio even after the Guggenheim series still said the bite changed him. Sh!t, even the battle damage report stated the bite changed him and both were after Guggenheim supposedly retconned it.Except his bios after the series state he was born human.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade even said they were too evenly matched and Logan didn't argue, he just let him go without a fight.
He didn't want to fight him in first place.
Originally posted by Deadline
It doesnt matter he stated it was a stalemate. I dont think he was that tired, the bottomline is neither of them were trying there best anyway and thats fact. Using a fight were both opponents werent trying there best isn't always a good indication.
It was a stalemate only because of the vial, though.
Originally posted by Deadline
Yeah but an upgraded Blade has never been owned like that by anybody.
He's not a villain and is kinda isolated from the rest of MU.
Originally posted by Deadline
That pretty much cements thats shes going to lose.
Not at all. Wolverine didn't sheathe his claws when he was fighting her.
Originally posted by Deadline
It was a stalemate and neither of them were trying there best. Blade said they were equally matched thats probably want the writer thinks.
Y'know what, I'll just quote srank 😂
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
[b]Blade 05:(The fallowing is a summary of Blade's fight with Wolverine)
Blade shows up at Wolverine's apartment
Blade: "I'm here to fight you!"
Wolverine: *sigh*
Wolverine easily disarms and pins Blade
Blade: "I'm pinned, you have me dead to rights and have no weapon... I'll turn you into a vampire! Making you even stronger and faster then you are now is sure to help me win!"
DestinyGuy678: "Holy shit. Blade stalemated Wolverine."
😎 [/B]
Blade stands a chance in h2h only because of that adamantium odachi anyway.
