Thor vs. Green Lantern (Hal)

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, GL shields have defended against attacks that hurt, say, Martian Manhunter or Superman, so odds are they can take some of Thor's omni attacks. Something like his omni Godblast might be another story, but that didn't exactly have a big radius in Ragnarok..

But tell me this: How much protection can Thor's hammer really give him against someone that doesn't even need to aim his attacks? Lets say Hal uses his ring to send an attack away from him, around Thor, and at his back? He's done it before.. Lots of GL's have.

Giving Thor the benefit of the doubt that he sees and blocks it, what about the next attack? What about those three constructs Hal beams to his left, right, and behind?

My main issue with Thor vs energy manipulators, is it's taken as a given that Thor WILL block their attacks, absorb it, and send it back at him, as if his hammer can't be bypassed, either by simply aiming where he's not blocking, or attacking him on multiple fronts.

Mjolnir's ability to absorb energy is omnidirectional. Thor can create omnidirectional defenses.

Thor doesn't even have to hold on to Mjolnir for it to absorb energy.

The very nature of Green Lanterns may have Thor get exotic. And if he resorts to directly using energy absorption on Hal, the battle is pretty much done. That's assuming he can absorb Oan energy but based on what I've seen, it's the most probably conclusion.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, GL shields have defended against attacks that hurt, say, Martian Manhunter or Superman, so odds are they can take some of Thor's omni attacks. Something like his omni Godblast might be another story, but that didn't exactly have a big radius in Ragnarok..

But tell me this: How much protection can Thor's hammer really give him against someone that doesn't even need to aim his attacks? Lets say Hal uses his ring to send an attack away from him, around Thor, and at his back? He's done it before.. Lots of GL's have.

Giving Thor the benefit of the doubt that he sees and blocks it, what about the next attack? What about those three constructs Hal beams to his left, right, and behind?

My main issue with Thor vs energy manipulators, is it's taken as a given that Thor WILL block their attacks, absorb it, and send it back at him, as if his hammer can't be bypassed, either by simply aiming where he's not blocking, or attacking him on multiple fronts.

Oh, their shields can defend against Thor's attacks. But ultimately, Thor breaches their defenses, either with physical force, Mjolnir crashing through it, or a powerful enough blast.

Thor can absorb energy simply by holding Mjolnir. When he's blocking or redirecting energy, typically the hammer has to connect with energy, but he can absorb ambient energy that's nearby all the same. Furthermore, Thor can spin Mjolnir at speeds reaching or exceeding lightspeed, so even a multiple barrage of attacks can be defended. Not only that, but Thor can also create whirlwind/vortexes which effectively shield him (or a target) from all directions.

The problem with Hal shooting off all these various attacks from multiple directions is that while he's doing that, Thor can be summoning storms of immense size and power, hurling lightning bolts, or just tossing Mjolnir at speeds his human level reaction can't compensate for. The power rings can tag beings moving super fast, but even Hal remarked he couldn't target his cousin Airwave who was moving at faster than light speeds. And that penned by the current authority of GL's, Geoff Johns.

I'm not operating under the assumption Thor auto-blocks every attack thrown his way, but given his history and feats, I'd say he has the capacity to defend against Hal's most potent attacks and his durability and damage soak enables him to power through the blasts which will hit him. The real damning thing about most GL's is that their power level steadily decreases through out battle and it's been shown to happen time and time again, especially current era Lanterns.

Hell, Thor could win by attrition if not simply over powering him.

Hal Jordan wins 450% of the time.

Originally posted by cdtm
He can't take a Krona buster.

IMO, a top GL can take a majority against Superman or Thor, considering a single high end construct can match either of them physically, and they can create an army of them..

Not to mention, all of their beams are seekers. If Hal wants to hit Thor in the eyes, he's hitting him in the eyes.

Hal cannot take a god blast whats your point. ITs not like hal usees that attack on every fight. Thats like saying Wonder Woman lasso's every oponent for the win.

Its not in her character. And no a top green lantern cannot take a majority from thor. I will say that hal can take a few but to say he takes a majority is just wrong. but thats your opinion and thats all good.

Thor pretty much pounds most GL's asses

Hal is no exception

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Oh, their shields can defend against Thor's attacks. But ultimately, Thor breaches their defenses, either with physical force, Mjolnir crashing through it, or a powerful enough blast.

Thor can absorb energy simply by holding Mjolnir. When he's blocking or redirecting energy, typically the hammer has to connect with energy, but he can absorb ambient energy that's nearby all the same. Furthermore, Thor can spin Mjolnir at speeds reaching or exceeding lightspeed, so even a multiple barrage of attacks can be defended. Not only that, but Thor can also create whirlwind/vortexes which effectively shield him (or a target) from all directions.

The problem with Hal shooting off all these various attacks from multiple directions is that while he's doing that, Thor can be summoning storms of immense size and power, hurling lightning bolts, or just tossing Mjolnir at speeds his human level reaction can't compensate for. The power rings can tag beings moving super fast, but even Hal remarked he couldn't target his cousin Airwave who was moving at faster than light speeds. And that penned by the current authority of GL's, Geoff Johns.

I'm not operating under the assumption Thor auto-blocks every attack thrown his way, but given his history and feats, I'd say he has the capacity to defend against Hal's most potent attacks and his durability and damage soak enables him to power through the blasts which will hit him. The real damning thing about most GL's is that their power level steadily decreases through out battle and it's been shown to happen time and time again, especially current era Lanterns.

Hell, Thor could win by attrition if not simply over powering him.

Didn't Thor have trouble with Marvel's GL knock off? Can't remember his name and Hal has augmented his stats to be a heavy brick in the past. If Hal wills it, Thor won't be overpowering him.

Originally posted by ozz81
regular thor vs hal jordan , both at best who wins and how?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Didn't Thor have trouble with Marvel's GL knock off? Can't remember his name and Hal has augmented his stats to be a heavy brick in the past. If Hal wills it, Thor won't be overpowering him.

Doctor Spectrum of the Squadron Supreme?

Or Quasar?

Because Spectrum was able to briefly keep Mjolnir away from Thor thanks in part to the pandemonium going down between the Avengers and the Squadron Supreme.

Quasar....lol.

Hal being able to amp to contend with Mongul is one thing, and considering that it was post Coast City being ravaged, I'd say the circumstances are more of a high end feat.

The fact of the matter is that unless you're named "Ion" or "Alan Scott", if you're a GL, Thor is probably going to get the noticeable majority against you.

Yeah, Spectrum, and Hal has bested Alan Scott before. Hal has pretty much always been the #1 GL on DCU.

Hal would stand no chance against Alan now. He himself had admitted that he would want no piece of Alan in a fight.

Well, yeah, of course, I was talking about standard levels.

Alan from the first JSA run from the 90's would beat Hal.

Alan's basically tapping all of DC's Chaos magic, so we really should be above any normal GL.

He jobs a LOT though. I love Kyle, but Alan kept falling to guys rookie Kyle was managing.

Alan tends to do that, yeah. I was convinced it was a running gag of the JSA for a while. Big Bad shows up, beats up Alan, Alan's out of commission for a while, Alan returns, Alan rapes.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Doctor Spectrum of the Squadron Supreme?

Or Quasar?

Because Spectrum was able to briefly keep Mjolnir away from Thor thanks in part to the pandemonium going down between the Avengers and the Squadron Supreme.

Quasar....lol.

Hal being able to amp to contend with Mongul is one thing, and considering that it was post Coast City being ravaged, I'd say the circumstances are more of a high end feat.

The fact of the matter is that unless you're named "Ion" or "Alan Scott", if you're a GL, Thor is probably going to get the noticeable majority against you.

Hal contended with Mongul with the yellow weakness.

Than, in a rematch without the yellow weakness post rebirth, he was skewering him with spikes.

Also, rookie time displaced Hal in Kyles run was using a plier construct on what he thought was a villain, and ended up being Captain Marvel, and he tore through the normally indestructible fabric of his shirt and almost tore his chest open.

So Hal does have a pretty decent record of high end feats. I could mention more, but just saying.

For what it's worth, I think Loeb also had Hal and Kilowog putting a hurt on Superman. (Yeah, it's Loeb....)