Galen Marek vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS)

The powerhouse of the Force vs. the master of the classical style. Who would win?

Conditions:
1.) Saber
2.) Force
3.) All Out

I'm not sure who'd win this battle, but I know it would be a tough one. On one hand, Obi-Wan is an experienced tactician and bested many opponents with his Soresu style. He is also well versed in the Force, so he does stand a chance.

On the other hand...it's Galen Marek. He is extremely powerful in the Force, with powers like Force Lightning and Repulse on his side. He has an aggressive Sith Shien and Juyo, plus his own knowledge of Obi-Wan's Soresu.

Who do you guys think will win?

Galen Marek would easily crush Obi Wan.

I can only see Obi Wan winning a strict saber contest, but all-out he stands no chance.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Galen Marek would easily crush Obi Wan.

I can only see Obi Wan winning a strict saber contest, but all-out he stands no chance.

I don't know about easliy, but his Juyo would generate too much kinetic energy for Obi-Wan's style, and his lightning would overpower Obi-Wan's lightsaber.

Definetly Galen

Originally posted by Anakin4Ever
I don't know about easliy, but his Juyo would generate too much kinetic energy for Obi-Wan's style, and his lightning would overpower Obi-Wan's lightsaber.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You're making it sound easy for Galen though. You are basically saying he does not even need to ignite his saber to win. All he needs is lightning and Obi Wan is finished.

Well, I didn't mean for it to sound that way. All I'm saying is that Galen's lighting is stronger than most lightsabers can handle. Obi-Wan could dodge it, though.

Originally posted by Anakin4Ever
Well, I didn't mean for it to sound that way. All I'm saying is that Galen's lighting is stronger than most lightsabers can handle. Obi-Wan could dodge it, though.

All-out, Starkiller defeats Kenobi.

Sabers, I'm not sure, but probably Kenobi.

Force... Do I even have to say it?

galen uses a reverse handed grip. factually, any strike made with a reverse grip would have substantially less power in it then a strike made with a traditional grip. theres a reason why the large majority of sword styles use traditional grips instead of reversed.

if obi-wan can defend against the djem/so of anakin who is one of the hardest hitters of his time and has a robotic arm and if obiwan can defed against greivous who is compeltely robotic and can crush steel then obi-wan can defend against galens strikes.

technically speaking, lightsaber blades have no mass, so it doesnt really matter HOW hard you swing with it...but still

Originally posted by cherrypieluva50
technically speaking, lightsaber blades have no mass, so it doesnt really matter HOW hard you swing with it...but still

WRONG!!! Check your facts. Merry Christmas!!!

Originally posted by cherrypieluva50
technically speaking, lightsaber blades have no mass, so it doesnt really matter HOW hard you swing with it...but still

In the Force though, Kenobi's boned.

^agreed. Sabers alone Obi-wan is real hard to beat. Better than Galen. He gets overwhelmed by Galen's Force powers though.

Galen does not have a single victory over another with a lightsaber. Every fight he won ended with an overwhelming force attack. Since there is no evidence that Marek is capable of winning a fight without the force, so Kenobi wins the saber battle.

With the force, I can't seen any scenario where kenobi lives, since he was overwhelmed repeatedly by Dooku when attacked through the force.

In an all out, i see a fight similar to most of the fights where Marek won. He can't win in sabers, so he uses constant force attacks during the combat until one gets through and kills kenobi.

Certainly a decent fight though.

Originally posted by truejedi
Galen does not have a single victory over another with a lightsaber. Every fight he won ended with an overwhelming force attack. Since there is no evidence that Marek is capable of winning a fight without the force, so Kenobi wins the saber battle.

With the force, I can't seen any scenario where kenobi lives, since he was overwhelmed repeatedly by Dooku when attacked through the force.

In an all out, i see a fight similar to most of the fights where Marek won. He can't win in sabers, so he uses constant force attacks during the combat until one gets through and kills kenobi.

Certainly a decent fight though.

Seems like a well thought outcome.

f=ma

m=0
a=irrelevant
0*x=0
QED

But wait... we have proof that the amount of force applied to the hilt changes the interaction between the blades. There are differing levels of recoil (or whatever you want to call it) depending on the amount of effort put into the swing. I like to think of the blade as a lever (2nd class maybe?) that simply transmits the force applied to the hilt.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
f=ma

m=0
a=irrelevant
0*x=0
QED

But wait... we have proof that the amount of force applied to the hilt changes the interaction between the blades. There are differing levels of recoil (or whatever you want to call it) depending on the amount of effort put into the swing. I like to think of the blade as a lever (2nd class maybe?) that simply transmits the force applied to the hilt.

yes, we have discussed this. However, there is no way that a weightless blade can be spun around in the manner than anakin does in the Geonosis arena while waiting for the droids to open fire after Windu turned down the offer from Dooku.

Therefore, they must have a weight compensator.

I seem to remember (from the murky depths of memory) that when a saber is activated there is some pushback against the hilt- a recoil of sorts. (Almost as though the concentrated beam acts as a massively amplified flashlight (which, according to the book The Science of Star Wars (I do remember the name of that one, at least) would act as a propulsion system if aimed out of the back of the Millennium (sp?) Falcon (given an infinite (or near-infinite?) period of acceleration)).) Would that provide the semblance of mass necessary to perform that maneuver? The issue would be with apparent weight rather than with mass, would it not?

but it would be only at the point of the blade, and still not aid in a transfer of force. I could see that.

The way ANH Luke reacts when he turns on the saber in Ben's hut would support the theory of a compensator. It was almost like it was out of control in his hand for a moment.

Originally posted by truejedi
but it would be only at the point of the blade, and still not aid in a transfer of force. I could see that.

The way ANH Luke reacts when he turns on the saber in Ben's hut would support the theory of a compensator. It was almost like it was out of control in his hand for a moment.