Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman's feats are superior, so i don't know where you got that idea from.
I disagree; Supes SHOWINGS are Superior but glads physical strength and durability is on an entirely different level but again, to each his own.
I see it like this, Glads feats are just that, its written on paper of exactly what he is doing. Superman feats, speculation that people on here tend to debate against/with.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superior strength/striking power.
Superman does not have superior strength he has better feat he has more showing. Superman has never been written has a mediocre superhero especially when it comes to personality wise. When the new gods have guest fearted in other superheros comics they personality is completely different from how they are written in new gods comics. You can tell that they have been slot in has if they are nothing.
Orion personality allows him to have good stories but other writers potray him has a mindless brute. The Jack Kirby Orion was very smart/clever, philosophical thinker, skilled fighter and a powerful warrior(astro force). The only other writer that got a good grasp of Orion was Walt Simonson,Mark Evanier and John Bryne. These writers that written him have given him feats that put Orion on an even footing with Superman above all else they know his personality.
Originally posted by beast1234I believe he does have superior strength. It's Orion's power and rage which makes it a contest while his skills usually take a back seat against the man of steel as does Superman's speed.
Superman does not have superior strength he has better feat he has more showing. Superman has never been written has a mediocre superhero especially when it comes to personality wise. When the new gods have guest fearted in other superheros comics they personality is completely different from how they are written in new gods comics. You can tell that they have been slot in has if they are nothing.Orion personality allows him to have good stories but other writers potray him has a mindless brute. The Jack Kirby Orion was very smart/clever, philosophical thinker, skilled fighter and a powerful warrior(astro force). The only other writer that got a good grasp of Orion was Walt Simonson,Mark Evanier and John Bryne. These writers that written him have given him feats that put Orion on an even footing with Superman above all else they know his personality.
In death of the new gods apparently Seid sees Superman as a peer to himself why he mentioned Orion's rage instead. This was a new gods book with Superman in as the guest star.
Well, I would love to give my reasons on why Glads wins this fight.
I have as of yet to see Orion face anyone with planet crushing power.
Then speed wise, the edge clearly goes to glads.
Gladiator hit cannonball with an iron bar. Trounce him all over the place and then rap him up instantly in that thick piece of iron.
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8748/canuo8.jpg
His punching power. HMMMM, he was about to punch cannonball to the center of the sun.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/1373/89154739hk4.jpg
I have two instances of him blitzing at near light speed but I'll just use one.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4850/32505489pi3.jpg
Did combos and moves in nanoseconds. This is a beyond light speed.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6687/39597113mf8.jpg
WOW, nova who is a complete 100 tonner bounce off of gladiator chest like he was nothing.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8655/62530030jg0.jpg
Then nova hit gladiator with a surprise attack and turn around and glads has already came back with a train before nova even finished his attack.
http://img223.imageshack.us/i/50610719pp0.jpg/
http://img223.imageshack.us/i/63128462pu0.jpg/
Reed boosted everyones speed up to level far surpassing the blink of an eye and guess what, glads see them as normal and still blitz thor.
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6708/63428720os6.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5328/34683579hw1.jpg
Vulcan took out the entire shiar clan along with the xmen but his blast mean nothing to gladiator.
http://img355.imageshack.us/i/89200274nk8.jpg/
We have a high herald, binary, shooting at Gladiator, and guess what, nothing happens.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/146/60603030cg2.jpg
Another punching power display. Punching Wonderman to the heart of the earth.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4686/31441653ep2.jpg
Gladiator taking out the entire nova corps.
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9594/nova3.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9054/nova4.jpg
Remember that speed we were talking about?
http://img5.imageshack.us/i/71744606.jpg/
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8125/65500345.jpg
Gladiator has an entire convo in his head and a bullet is right at vulcans face and he still get there in time before the bullet hit Vulcan.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Imperial%20Guard/Kallark-ReacttoBullet.jpg
You remember that punching power, take a look and also add on the fact that he was one shotting the skrull race who had the combine powers of some of the most powerful beings in MU.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9112/86433487.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8752/52609522.jpg
Lets go back to strength.
This ship is at least twice the size of a mountain in a gravational environment. Lets see what glad do with this ship since it is in the way.
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=rokig_01_014.jpg
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=rokig_01_015.jpg
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=rokig_01_016.jpg
http://s980.photobucket.com/albums/ae289/ankur2292/?action=view¤t=rokig_01_017.jpg
I gave my reasons.
Originally posted by carver9Vulcan took out the entire shiar clan along with the xmen but his blast mean nothing to gladiator.
http://img355.imageshack.us/i/89200274nk8.jpg/
this is probably one of my fav moments of Glads. Really displays what his psionically (sorry for spelling) fortified power really show. Because he believes himself untouchable there for he is.. redic...
Originally posted by quanchi112
I believe he does have superior strength. It's Orion's power and rage which makes it a contest while his skills usually take a back seat against the man of steel as does Superman's speed.In death of the new gods apparently Seid sees Superman as a peer to himself why he mentioned Orion's rage instead. This was a new gods book with Superman in as the guest star.
The story was rushed so that DC can get rid of the new gods. Superman taken on Mantis and Kalibak at the same time is a joke. Based on they feats that they have showed in the past especially Mantis who has the powers to absored nearly all forms of energy in the DC universe including anti-matter and the green lantern power ring which is capble of containg the big bang itself.
Originally posted by beast1234
The story was rushed so that DC can get rid of the new gods. Superman taken on Mantis and Kalibak at the same time is a joke. Based on they feats that they have showed in the past especially Mantis who has the powers to absored nearly all forms of energy in the DC universe including anti-matter and the green lantern power ring which is capble of containg the big bang itself.
Mantis sucks.
Originally posted by carver9
I know pc mantis doesnt suck but that wasnt the mantis that he was talking about. He brought up the mantis and Kalibak that Superman fought and both of them suck a**.
How can Superman take on Mantis and Kalibak at the same time. They are both class 100. Kalibak always lose against Superman due to his lack of cunning when it comes to battle but Mantis is a being who is capble of absorbing vast amont of energy including magic, the green lantern power ring he absorbed an energy from infinity man which was powerful enough to destory solar systems. If Mantis can do that them he should be powerful enough to absorbed kinetic energy from Superman since Superman has the striking power to destory planets.
Originally posted by beast1234
How can Superman take on Mantis and Kalibak at the same time. They are both class 100. Kalibak always lose against Superman due to his lack of cunning when it comes to battle but Mantis is a being who is capble of absorbing vast amont of energy including magic, the green lantern power ring he absorbed an energy from infinity man which was powerful enough to destory solar systems. If Mantis can do that them he should be powerful enough to absorbed kinetic energy from Superman since Superman has the striking power to destory planets.
Superman lost to Kalibak and Mantis and can you show me that planetary destroying strength that he has? I want to save the scan to my hard drive.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Well, since Orion has gone toe to toe against PC Mantis and not have lost, I say that's a good feat for Orion. Considering Mantis easily absorbed Hal Jordan's ring AND Dr. Fate.
Lets not use abc logic and name which character fought which characters. Going by feats hulk is stronger and more durable than orion, especially WWH.
Orion is a beast, I'll admit that but this isnt a fight for him.
Originally posted by beast1234It made it through the editorial process. Superman gets wanked, but that's a major problem I have with dc and the stories it cranks out. I don't even see the need to lump Superman in a death of the new gods story to begin with.
The story was rushed so that DC can get rid of the new gods. Superman taken on Mantis and Kalibak at the same time is a joke. Based on they feats that they have showed in the past especially Mantis who has the powers to absored nearly all forms of energy in the DC universe including anti-matter and the green lantern power ring which is capble of containg the big bang itself.
Originally posted by Prep-ManPC Mantis wasn't in death of the new gods. 😂
PC Mantis does not suck.
Originally posted by beast1234
Superman stated it in Death of the New Gods issue 7 when he was fighting Infinity Man.
Gotcha, so we are basing everything off of statements. Well gladiator wins this 10/10 and easily due to on panel statements. Let me explain why.
Gladiator has limitless strength. This came from reed own mouth and we all know reed knows all.
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/glad2jf0.jpg/
Glads can tow planets and also rip stars with his bare hands
http://img123.imageshack.us/i/gladjx4.jpg/
Nova has met some of the most powerful beings in the universe and he stated that gladiator is one of the strongest beings in the entire universe.
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8522/26488759kc5.jpg
HHHMMM, Cyclops stated that gladiator is the strongest being in the galaxy.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7003/82709674rp3.jpg
Stated that gladiator is the most powerful being in the universe.
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0092/07
Professor x files (you, know, the all knowing professor) files state that whatever gladiator want to do he can do it, he has no limits.
http://img68.imageshack.us/i/89154739hk4.jpg/
So with that said, Gladiator stomps.
Now if you can, show me something like THIS, because this is what I'm looking for.
http://img367.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld1wl5.jpg/
http://img354.imageshack.us/i/destroyingworld2dh8.jpg/
