Originally posted by Lord LucienThat was just one episode. You also have ships destroying the surface of a planet in seconds. From The Die is cast
Doing 40 seconds of research I came to this conclusion:Worf (I think) said that it would take the entire payload of photon torpedoes on the Enterprise to destroy an asteroid (of unknown size to me). 250 photon torpedoes on board.
Imperial-class Destroyers were blasting asteroids apart like burst bubbles. In some comic I think it was, three ISSs emerged from hyperspace and slammed right in to the Executor. They were all vaporized.
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Yeah.
Originally posted by playa1258Han can beat anyone, if he doesn't. The battle will be endless.
Stardestroyer.net is a rabid fanboy site that should not be take seriously.You have idiots over there who believe Han Solo and Chewbecca can beat a Q.
Jedi can beat Superman and other moronic stuff.
Stardestroyer.net is a laughing stock when it comes to battle boards
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The Borg are always tricky to use. And I've never gotten a straight answer out of someone as to A.) Just how much energy can Borg adapt to? B.) How long does that adaptation last? and C.) To how many drones/cubes etc. does a single instance of adaption apply to?
Millions of cubes, billions of drones.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
That... that didn't really help, man.
I thought it was one of your questions. How many cubes and drones were there.
Of course, rereading it again I realized I misunderstood.
1. If one Borg adapts to something, the entire collective adapts to it.
2. The adaptation is permanent.
3. The amount of energy effects how hard it is to adapt. The more powerful the weapon, the more difficult to adapt to.
Originally posted by playa1258
Stardestroyer.net is a rabid fanboy site that should not be take seriously.You have idiots over there who believe Han Solo and Chewbecca can beat a Q.
Jedi can beat Superman and other moronic stuff.
Stardestroyer.net is a laughing stock when it comes to battle boards
No one here cares even a little bit about the boards. We are citing the scholarship of Mr. Wong.
If you feel capable enough to challenge his equations then please do; appeals based purely in ethos will be ignored as fallacious in this instance.
Originally posted by AutokratI haven't seen enough Star Trek to really know, but: I've seen like, two drones being taken out with phasers, and the drone next to them adapted to it. But later on, more drones were taken out by phasers. Unless everybody whoever engages the Borg catalogues every weapon's energy output, and then ups the output of every phaser in the Federation to match the adaptation-level... it makes no sense whatsoever for the entire Collective to adapt to every amount of energy thrown at them--how could they be killed after that, the Federation can only make their weapons so powerful.
I thought it was one of your questions. How many cubes and drones were there.Of course, rereading it again I realized I misunderstood.
1. If one Borg adapts to something, the entire collective adapts to it.
2. The adaptation is permanent.
3. The amount of energy effects how hard it is to adapt. The more powerful the weapon, the more difficult to adapt to.
I always figured that the drones of like, one group or squad, or whatever adapted.
Still doesn't answer as to just how much one drone or one cube CAN adapt to.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I haven't seen enough Star Trek to really know, but: I've seen like, two drones being taken out with phasers, and the drone next to them adapted to it. But later on, more drones were taken out by phasers. Unless everybody whoever engages the Borg catalogues every weapon's energy output, and then ups the output of every phaser in the Federation to match the adaptation-level... it makes no sense whatsoever for the entire Collective to adapt to every amount of energy thrown at them--how could they be killed after that, the Federation can only make their weapons so powerful.I always figured that the drones of like, one group or squad, or whatever adapted.
Still doesn't answer as to just how much one drone or one cube CAN adapt to.
Phasers can be moduled to a different frequency, every time that happens the Borg have to adapt again. The more times the phaser is changed to a different frequency the quicker the Borg adapt.
Its somewhat convoluted. Especially since script writers changed their minds several times on how adaptation works.
I hate inconsistency. So, as long as the phaser is a different frequency, it'll hurt the Borg (until they adapt)? Does that mean they can switch to a lower one later on, after it wears off or something? Because eventually the Borg would adapt to the highest output and then the Federation would be screwed.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I hate inconsistency. So, as long as the phaser is a different frequency, it'll hurt the Borg (until they adapt)? Does that mean they can switch to a lower one later on, after it wears off or something? Because eventually the Borg would adapt to the highest output and then the Federation would be screwed.
Once the Borg adapt to a frequency, that frequency is forever useless. Its just that the frequency change has been used as a plot device so many times that it appears Federation phasers are incredibly versatile.
And then in the Enterprise show, they just made the phasers more powerful and that was good enough to temporary overload the borg's adaptation.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
No one here cares even a little bit about the boards. We are citing the scholarship of Mr. Wong.If you feel capable enough to challenge his equations then please do; appeals based purely in ethos will be ignored as fallacious in this instance.
Yeah whatever. Wong and his Jizz Slurpers worships the ICS which is a load of crap .
In AOTC Slave 1 Fires its main guns at Obi-wan and the blast was no more powerful than a stick of dynamite.
Answer this, Do you believe a Jedi such as Obi-wan who has a hard time with a normal human with a gun & jet-pack. Could Challenge Superman?
Originally posted by playa1258
Yeah whatever. Wong and his [color=green]Jizz Slurper[color=purple]s[/color] worships[/color] the ICS which is a load of crap .
In this pair of sentences we have one (1) dismissal of a reasonable position out of hand, one (1) textbook example of fallacious ad hominem argument exhibiting one (1) thrilling case of flamboyant homophobia, one (1) unsupported assertion, and one (1) mistakenly conjugated verb relating to a pluralized noun.
In AOTC Slave 1 Fires its main guns at Obi-wan and the blast was no more powerful than a stick of dynamite.
That's nice. Did you ever think that maybe there was a safety feature in place to avoid igniting the surrounding atmosphere so that Boba did not incinerate his father? Or that Boba made a conscious choice not to endanger his home? Given the massively increased destructive potential of those same lasers not five minutes later in the movie, there is no way to conclude that Boba was firing at full power.
Answer this, Do you believe a Jedi such as Obi-wan who has a hard time with a normal human with a gun & jet-pack. Could Challenge Superman?
Supes wins. Then he fights Goku and loses. Then Goku fights Kenobi (or his ghost? Or zombie form or something?) and demolishes him. Circle of life.