........vs Superman without his weaknesses

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........vs Superman without his weaknesses

Supes weaknesses that are exploiterable are removed for these bloodlusted fights.

1. Captain Marvel without the magic weakness.

2. Silver Surfer without the red sun and krytonite weaknesses

3. Green Lantern (Hal) same as fight 2

This is current regular Superman, how does he fare in these battles?

superman 10/10 all day

Without exploitation
1. = 6/10
2. = 6/10
3. = 7/10

Originally posted by lawest9
Supes weaknesses that are exploiterable are removed for these bloodlusted fights.

1. Captain Marvel without the magic weakness.

2. Silver Surfer without the red sun and krytonite weaknesses

3. Green Lantern (Hal) same as fight 2

This is current regular Superman, how does he fare in these battles?

1. Supes wins 7/10
2. Supes loses 8/10(Surfer can still drain/manipulate Supes's internal energies, Supes loses 6-7 if that's taken away too)
3. Supes loses 6-7/10(For same reason as Surfer, split even if manipulating his energy's taken away too)

Originally posted by lawest9
Supes weaknesses that are exploiterable are removed for these bloodlusted fights.

1. Captain Marvel without the magic weakness.

2. Silver Surfer without the red sun and krytonite weaknesses

3. Green Lantern (Hal) same as fight 2

This is current regular Superman, how does he fare in these battles?

Clark will take all three imo, and Hal is the one i'd worry about the most.

Originally posted by darthgoober

2. Supes loses 8/10(Surfer can still drain/manipulate Supes's internal energies, Supes loses 6-7 if that's taken away too)
you gots to be kidding.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you gots to be kidding.

Nope, not even a little bit.

1. Supes win 10/10
2. Surfer win 10/10
3. Hal win 7/10

Originally posted by darthgoober
1. Supes wins 7/10
2. Supes loses 8/10(Surfer can still drain/manipulate Supes's internal energies, Supes loses 6-7 if that's taken away too)
3. Supes loses 6-7/10(For same reason as Surfer, split even if manipulating his energy's taken away too)

👆 though id give him like a 5.5- 6/10 majority over hal if maniping his energy is taken away.

Originally posted by darthgoober
1. Supes wins 7/10
2. Supes loses 8/10(Surfer can still drain/manipulate Supes's internal energies, Supes loses 6-7 if that's taken away too)
3. Supes loses 6-7/10(For same reason as Surfer, split even if manipulating his energy's taken away too)

👆

I can buy that. People forget that Hal and the Silver Surfer have more options than weaknesses-exploitation and are infinitely more versatile than a Kryptonian.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nope, not even a little bit.
wait, are you giving odds with the characters fighting in character...or with you controlling Surfer?

1. Superman wins anywhere from 5-6/10
2. Superman wins 3/10
3. Superman wins 3/10

Originally posted by Naija boy
👆 though id give him like a 5.5- 6/10 majority over hal if maniping his energy is taken away.

Oh I'd given him the majority over any other Lantern(even Kyle or Alan) in those circumstances, but Hal's worked with Supes a LONG time. It's the combination of experience and versatility I see allowing him to split even.

Originally posted by Starscream M
wait, are you giving odds with the characters fighting in character...or with you controlling Surfer?

In character of course(but still bloodlusted and without PIS). Give me Surfer's powers and I'd stomp Supes any day of the weak and twice on Sunday...

Originally posted by darthgoober
In character of course. Give me Surfer's powers and I'd stomp Supes any day of the weak and twice on Sunday...
I doubt Surfer would have the opportunity to try to suck energy outta superman

superman would be coming at him HARD and FAST

knock surfer off his board and Superman gains an overwhelming mobility advantage...Surfer's not used to fighting someone who can blitz with the power superman has

Superman has faced Surfer like foes and triumphed

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh I'd given him the majority over any other Lantern(even Kyle or Alan) in those circumstances, but Hal's worked with Supes a LONG time. It's the combination of experience and versatility I see allowing him to split even.

Fair point,

Originally posted by Starscream M
I doubt Surfer would have the opportunity to try to suck energy outta superman

Based on what?

Originally posted by Starscream M
superman would be coming at him HARD and FAST

And?

Originally posted by Starscream M
knock surfer off his board and Superman gains an overwhelming mobility advantage...Surfer's not used to fighting someone who can blitz with the power superman has

Assuming Surfer fought like a moron and let Supes get in a hit, he'd then have to worry about getting nailed by a silver surfboard. It's actually safer to fight Surfer on his board then off it if you're a primarily a melee fighter.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Superman has faced Surfer like foes and triumphed

Did they have feats equal to Surfer's across the board and did fight them in a PIS free enviornment? If not, doesn't matter...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Based on what?
his fights with terrax, thor, brb..etc. I don't recall him sucking energy during those fights.

Originally posted by darthgoober

And?
Superman's unique combo of speed and power is something Surfer has never faced before. He will be overwhelmed.

Originally posted by darthgoober

Assuming Surfer fought like a moron and let Supes get in a hit, he'd then have to worry about getting nailed by a silver surfboard. It's actually safer to fight Surfer on his board then off it if you're a primarily a melee fighter.
wrong. Surfer is far more a threat on the board. Off it, he's handicapped. He can't fly or move fast.

Originally posted by Starscream M
his fights with terrax, thor, brb..etc. I don't recall him sucking energy during those fights.

Superman's unique combo of speed and power is something Surfer has never faced before. He will be overwhelmed.

wrong. Surfer is far more a threat on the board. Off it, he's handicapped. He can't fly or move fast.

Surfer has sed the enrgy drain in numerous fights against hulk,firelord,pyschoman etc. bringing up thor and BRB is foolish since there is no energy to drain and he is able to beat terrax so easily that he doesnt have to.

Off as well as on his board, surfer has forcefields to protect himself and the board becomes an additional extremely dangerous melee weapon that can operate at speeds faster than supes.

Originally posted by Starscream M
his fights with terrax, thor, brb..etc. I don't recall him sucking energy during those fights.

None of those characters are essentially energy batteries like Superman. Also, when facing beings like JackofHears who biology stores energy for later use, the Surfer has manipulated said energy.

Originally posted by Starscream M

Superman's unique combo of speed and power is something Surfer has never faced before. He will be overwhelmed.

Yes he has. You'd be surprised how many Superman clones there are in the Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Starscream M

wrong. Surfer is far more a threat on the board. Off it, he's handicapped. He can't fly or move fast.

It depends. Off the board he can potentially trap his opponent within the board ending the fight fairly quickly.