........vs Superman without his weaknesses

Originally posted by Starscream M
anytime is fine...I'm not familiar with the format and rules of a bz though

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t509723.html

And anytime is good for me too. I'm currently sitting on nearly 2,000 scans of Surfer I was organizing for another revamp on his respect thread so we can start tonight if you're up for it(but I figure you'll want to take your time and prepare, which is fine).

BTW what kind of stipulations are you looking for? We can just do Surfer vs Supes, Surfer vs Supes as in this thread(no red sun or k-nite), or just Surfer vs Supes with no weakness exploitation, it doesn't really matter to me cause Surfer wins the majority in any of them.

Originally posted by Starscream M
did goober disappear on me right after I accepted?

Originally posted by Naija boy
Because of the people involved not necessarily the characters........no disrespect to starscream.......

Originally posted by kgkg
Ahh I would love to see a Superman without his weaknesses exploit vs Surfer bz.

yeah i would to.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Here's a link(the Battlezone section is last)...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t509723.html

And anytime is good for me too. I'm currently sitting on nearly 2,000 scans of Surfer I was organizing for another revamp on his respect thread so we can start tonight if you're up for it(but I figure you'll want to take your time and prepare, which is fine).

BTW what kind of stipulations are you looking for? We can just do Surfer vs Supes, Surfer vs Supes as in this thread(no red sun or k-nite), or just Surfer vs Supes with no weakness exploitation, it doesn't really matter to me cause Surfer wins the majority in any of them.

One stipulation I would propose: any feat or power used must have been demonstrated in at least 3 occasions (otherwise, it's barred)

I would like to do a Superman vs Surfer (anything goes, but all in character) match

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, I would like to maybe have a week's time to leisurely study the necessary material

One stipulation I would propose: any feat or power used must have been demonstrated in at least 3 occasions (otherwise, it's barred)

I would like to do a Superman vs Surfer (anything goes, but all in character) match

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm good with most stipulations, but Supes's appearance count is 3 times as high as Surfer's(even with Pre Crisis tossed out) and Surfer has a far more diverse powerset to demonstrate in each issue so I'll most likely reject the feat number stip unless you're talking about broad spectrum rather than repeating individual/specific feats.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, how bout the feat/power must've been used at least twice. I don't like off-the wall one time powers that often just may have occurred due to ignorant writing.

Originally posted by darthgoober
There's a difference between feats and powers so you'll have to come up with some examples of what you mean. If you mean that I have to show Surfer using something like offensive transmutation or internal energy manipulating twice in combat that's fine, if you mean he has to use the exact same technique in each instance it penalizes Surfer for having an open ended powerset which I'm not cool with(since his open ended powerset factors into why I see him winning anything but a h2h scenereo between the two). That's why I said it would be an ok stip in broad spectrum but not on an individual feat basis.

ie, if you show Surfer transmuting a pig and later on transmuting a horse...then its accepted he can transmute organic matter

or if you show him curving his blasts on two different (ie not in the same comic) occasions, then I'll accept it.

mostly, the 2 instance rule will apply to pre-modern surfer feats (before the 90s). feats after the 90s (or some other time we agree upon) are ok even if they occurred only once.

you have an advantage in that you can pull alot of feats from the hyperbolic age of comics, whereas for superman, those feats are not usable. I'd like to fight on equal ground.

Originally posted by Starscream M
it doesn't have to be two exact feats

ie, if you show Surfer transmuting a pig and later on transmuting a horse...then its accepted he can transmute organic matter

or if you show him curving his blasts on two different (ie not in the same comic) occasions, then I'll accept it.

mostly, the 2 instance rule will apply to pre-modern surfer feats (before the 90s). feats after the 90s (or some other time we agree upon) are ok even if they occurred only once.

you have an advantage in that you can pull alot of feats from the hyperbolic age of comics, whereas for superman, those feats are not usable. I'd like to fight on equal ground.

My bad. I thought you said he couldn't use anything pre 90's.

Originally posted by Starscream M
it doesn't have to be two exact feats

ie, if you show Surfer transmuting a pig and later on transmuting a horse...then its accepted he can transmute organic matter

or if you show him curving his blasts on two different (ie not in the same comic) occasions, then I'll accept it.

mostly, the 2 instance rule will apply to pre-modern surfer feats (before the 90s). feats after the 90s (or some other time we agree upon) are ok even if they occurred only once.

you have an advantage in that you can pull alot of feats from the hyperbolic age of comics, whereas for superman, those feats are not usable. I'd like to fight on equal ground.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well then yeah as long as you're not talking about exact feats I'm cool with that.

for our 3 judges, I'd like to nominate: Avlon, Pr, and Philosophia

are you ok with that?

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok cool

for our 3 judges, I'd like to nominate: Avlon, Pr, and Philosophia

are you ok with that?

Have you people noticed that Dc comic fans, Incredible Hulk fans and Thor fans are the worse fanboys here? Superman loses the majority to each of these people

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok cool

for our 3 judges, I'd like to nominate: Avlon, Pr, and Philosophia

are you ok with that?

I was actually going to suggest a "Judges Wanted" match.

Originally posted by big juggy man
Have you people noticed that Dc comic fans, Incredible Hulk fans and Thor fans are the worse fanboys here? Superman loses the majority to each of these people

Not true. Every character has fanboys of varying degrees of insanity.

Originally posted by big juggy man
Have you people noticed that Dc comic fans, Incredible Hulk fans and Thor fans are the worse fanboys here? Superman loses the majority to each of these people

Originally posted by darthgoober
😂

I was actually going to suggest a "Judges Wanted" match.

Originally posted by Starscream M
its actually pretty hard to select judges for this match: as most people have made up their minds one way or the other.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's why I suggested a Judges Wanted match. It's an actual matchtype described at the end of the Battlezone rules.

on second thought, I guess I would be ok with a judges wanted match.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't think that's a good idea...it opens up room for trolling and spamming. I'd rather have a defined number of judges who I know will actually read the debate.

on second thought, I guess I would be ok with a judges wanted match.