........vs Superman without his weaknesses

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Surfer doesn’t need energy blasts to beat Superman. He has hax for a reason

Cap vs Superman - current Cap haven't done much. Giving this to Supes.
Surfer vs Superman - Surfer 7/ out of 10
Hal vs Superman - Hal looked far better against Zod (who was amped off of 2 suns) than Superman did. 7 out of 10 imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Cap vs Superman - current Cap haven't done much. Giving this to Supes.
Surfer vs Superman - Surfer 7/ out of 10
Hal vs Superman - Hal looked far better against Zod (who was amped off of 2 suns) than Superman did. 7 out of 10 imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Cap vs Superman - current Cap haven't done much. Giving this to Supes.
Surfer vs Superman - Surfer 7/ out of 10
Hal vs Superman - Hal looked far better against Zod (who was amped off of 2 suns) than Superman did. 7 out of 10 imo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Originally posted by Diesldude
wasn't Zod using the 2suns to catch up to superman because superman has had longer exposure.

Where was this said?

Stewart IIRC said it. The two suns were to bring him up to Superman's level

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Stewart IIRC said it. The two suns were to bring him up to Superman's level

Yeah, he said it in issue 39 of Hal and friends. I'd post it but imgur is being a ****.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, he said it in issue 39 of Hal and friends. I'd post it but imgur is being a ****.

So if the writer intended the two suns to bring Zod up to the level of Superman, then either there was something about the suns(smaller, wrong color, distance from Earth) or the writer just thinks Superman is that above Zod under normal circumstances.

Either way carter is wrong. As ****ing usual. And he ignores the first fight, that the writer seemed to be going off a tactics win than Hal>Zod, or how Superman overpowered Hal in a beam contest(when energy projection is Hal's specialty, not Superman's), before one-shoting Hal and worrying he caused brain damage or something.

Let's see if he makes the same mistake the first time he tried to downplay Superman beating Hal in that fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Where was this said?

Blue dwarf guardians are so f*cking useless

Abhi is our biggest gem, he likes it when we pet him

Lol. Gotta love how that's pretty much the only time it's mentioned....and Carver still only remembered half of it.

Well Zod may be in need of 2 more based on how easily Rogol tuned his ass up.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Thanks for this... Zod was weakened before this I think and as stated, these suns took him to Superman level which is still a ft for Hal. Zod before this WRECKED Henshaw and Superman himself admitted that Henshaw is as strong and as fast as him...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41250281/SmartSelect_20190604-185054_Chrome.jpg.html

Originally posted by carver9
Thanks for this... Zod was weakened before this I think and as stated, these suns took him to Superman level which is still a ft for Hal. Zod before this WRECKED Henshaw and Superman himself admitted that Henshaw is as strong and as fast as him...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41250281/SmartSelect_20190604-185054_Chrome.jpg.html

So Superman>2 sun zod>Henshaw=Superman?

And did you forget Superman oneshotted Hal?

Carver confirmed not to long ago he doesn’t read comics left to right, that’s why his opinions of scans are so fcking awful.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So was there an explanation? I saw it mentioned in the thread it was because Superman's been under a yellow sun longer but that wasn't backed up. A plausible reason though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Zod was weakened? Citation?

So Superman>2 sun zod>Henshaw=Superman?

And did you forget Superman oneshotted Hal?

Hal mind was being tampered with. I thought fights like that doesnt count?

Superman outright admitted Henshaw is on his level. Cant get any clearer than that. Wait, are you accepting a statement from a Lantern as fact but ignoring Superman statement? Also, we've seen encounters between Superman and Zod.

Originally posted by carver9
Hal mind was being tampered with. I thought fights like that doesnt count?

Superman outright admitted Henshaw is on his level. Cant get any clearer than that. Wait, are you accepting a statement from a Lantern as fact but ignoring Superman statement? Also, we've seen encounters between Superman and Zod.

Because the Lantern's statement IS THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE that two suns were involved.

Originally posted by carver9
Hal mind was being tampered with. I thought fights like that doesnt count?

His will was not affected.

Superman outright admitted Henshaw is on his level. Cant get any clearer than that. Wait, are you accepting a statement from a Lantern as fact but ignoring Superman statement? Also, we've seen encounters between Superman and Zod.

We've also seen encounters between Superman and Hal. Why are you going through Zod route?