Superman vs Apocalypse

I dont see how Apoc's powerset would get him a win against the JLA no matter how he is written. His TP I dont think is better than Manhunter's, he isnt matching strength with Supes, and the rest of the team is too versatile. Supes, Flash, or WW should be able to overwhelm him.

Originally posted by redhotrash
I dont see how Apoc's powerset would get him a win against the JLA no matter how he is written. His TP I dont think is better than Manhunter's, he isnt matching strength with Supes, and the rest of the team is too versatile. Supes, Flash, or WW should be able to overwhelm him.

Having the ability to become as strong as he wants is one of hes powers. Though hes never used it as far as I know.
Apoc can turn hes body into kryptonite or adamantium, giving that he has studied their properties.

If he is written to hes best, he should be able to take them out.

The strength thing I can see, but he still wont have them in the h2h department, not to mention once you get over a thousand tons, its just for showing off. Ive never seen him change himself into anything like adamantium. I believe his control over his molecules are limited to being able to shapeshift, not change their composition. Even then he doesnt have the speed to keep up. Stryfe was beating him down with his barehands at one point.

Originally posted by redhotrash
The strength thing I can see, but he still wont have them in the h2h department, not to mention once you get over a thousand tons, its just for showing off. Ive never seen him change himself into anything like adamantium. I believe his control over his molecules are limited to being able to shapeshift, not change their composition. Even then he doesnt have the speed to keep up. Stryfe was beating him down with his barehands at one point.

He has turned hes body into functioning weapons and different kinds of metals before. Though I don't think he has ever changed into adamantium before. BUT if he has studied its properties then he might be able to replicate it.

Plus Apoc has the ability to teleport. An ability which would come in handy against people faster than him.

Flash travels faster than instant teleportation. Dont ask how lol... I'd say Supes and Wonderwoman also wouldnt have much trouble with that either.

He isn't changing into kryptonite 😬

Originally posted by redhotrash
Flash travels faster than instant teleportation. Dont ask how lol... I'd say Supes and Wonderwoman also wouldnt have much trouble with that either.

Diana would dodge a sword throw or block it with her powerful bracers 😬.

I'd agree, shes supposed to be one of the top tier DC h2h fighters, but backed with a crazy power set, I can see her taking Apocalypse, though the idea of him caught in her lasso is embarassing

Originally posted by iceman24567
Diana would dodge a sword throw or block it with her powerful bracers 😬.

Same reason Flash gets tagged by guys who cant even break the sound barrier, it promotes good storytelling.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Same reason Flash gets tagged by guys who cant even break the sound barrier, it promotes good storytelling.

Originally posted by galactusischere
And the same reason the X-men, and Avengers aren't dead by now. 😛

Originally posted by Omega Vision
X-Men<<<most Avengers Lineups<Core JLA

Not really. There are X-men line ups better than both other teams.
Anyways Superman and Flash can beat Apoc, Diana can't.

Superman really only has a few powers that Diana doesnt, none of which he'd need to beat Apocalypse. He edges her in strength and speed a bit, but her h2h skills are way above his. That combined with the weapons she brings should make up the difference in this fight

Originally posted by redhotrash
Superman really only has a few powers that Diana doesnt, none of which he'd need to beat Apocalypse. He edges her in strength and speed a bit, but her h2h skills are way above his. That combined with the weapons she brings should make up the difference in this fight

Superman has durability >>>>>> to Diana's.
A Superman that goes all out >>> Diana in strenght.

Superman gets a 6-7/10 on Apoc, while Diana gets a 3/10 IMO.

Superman's base durability is much better, but her bracers would be impervious to anything Apocalypse can throw at her. I'd give Superman 8 or 9/10 and Diana 7 or 8/10. Im going to make a thread for it though to see what everyone else thinks, I may be off.

WW 0/10 Against Pocs shields and TK.

Poc telekinetically scrambles supermans brain with tp and tk.

tk bubble in the brain > WW

imo.

Show me Apocaylpse doing anything remotely like that.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Having the ability to become as strong as he wants is one of hes powers. Though hes never used it...

K, thx.

Originally posted by galactusischere
DIana without her lasso would be easily disposed of. All Nur needs is a spear or sword to throw at her JUST LIKE CRUCIFER and that will be that.

lmao.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Not really.

Really.