Originally posted by TheKahnthey're both powerful energy manipulators, granted surfer is a bit better
🤨Magneto =/= Silver Surfer
but my point was magic isn't necessarily a "magic bullet" in a fight, even vs a non-magic character.
I mean, what do you think Loki is going to do against Magneto that he couldn't against Surfer?
Originally posted by Starscream M
didn't surfer do ok against Loki? magic isn't an auto win
The Power Cosmic is not really that different from magic. Both allow you to do pretty much anything.
Originally posted by Starscream M
they're both powerful energy manipulators, granted surfer is a bit betterbut my point was magic isn't necessarily a "magic bullet" in a fight, even vs a non-magic character.
I mean, what do you think Loki is going to do against Magneto that he couldn't against Surfer?
Same as Spiral did to him once, turn off his powers.
Originally posted by Starscream M
so you're just assuming loki could replicate Spiral's powers?
I think he should certainly be able to do the same thing. Or something else that Magneto has no defense against.
Here's a fight between Apocalypse (in his lair) and Loki from X-Factor Vol.1 #50.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9361/xf50apoc1.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4627/xf50apoc2.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8126/xf50apoc3.jpg
Loki did not really come there to fight as that not his style, but I don't see Magneto getting away with that against Apocalypse on his own home ground.
Originally posted by nikbackmUmmm...Magneto did FAR BETTER against Apocalypse....he ripped Apoc apart...literally.
I think he should certainly be able to do the same thing. Or something else that Magneto has no defense against.Here's a fight between Apocalypse (in his lair) and Loki from X-Factor Vol.1 #50.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9361/xf50apoc1.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4627/xf50apoc2.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8126/xf50apoc3.jpgLoki did not really come there to fight as that not his style, but I don't see Magneto getting away with that against Apocalypse on his own home ground.