Tha C-Master
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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i was making a point of what happens when he is faced with an opponent who has greater durability, fighting skill knowledge and greater damage output then his........it makes a world of difference when it isnt just some wild animal or a jobber aura meta with no real combat mindset who is fully dependent on his stats to compete.......
spider is reasonably skilled in his abilities and use o terrain their is no doubt about that.... but he is nowhere as skilled nor possess the mindset of a true seasoned combatant... who kills and can think and lead his opponent....
the spider is repeatedly shown that is his biggest flaw. he isnt a real fighter like Cap, logan,DD, or BP.... they are able to hit him b/c he uses his spider sense and completely dependent on it.
that they use it as an advantage they lead him by throwing a set up attack just so he will leap and not be able to move out of the way of the next one.......
now some of you are going that he can dodge bullets...... so no one can hit him... BS on the comparison..
he dodges bullets do to speed/ poor marksmen skill and spider sense and his ability contort his body to create a smaller profile a good technique for bullet dodging but a fist is not so easily avoided when its coming at you and you either leaped right into it dead center and you cant freeze time and shift ur position to the left or right out of the way..... maybe if the fist was aimed at his leg or arm he can duck it in or lift it up but what is he going to do with his torso? 📖 😬
Made a thread on this. You're basically saying that someone who has been fighting for decades does not equal someone who has taken an earth based martial arts class, regardless of experience. It's just silly. Too silly, especially when his physiology doesn't even benefit from the said training in the first place.
The streets like Cap, DD, etc are able to hang with him for a bit because they are *famous* and they don't want to upset fanbases, in fact several of these characters admitted they don't stand up to them if he was going all out.
And then you compare bullet dodging when he is the only one who should be logically dodging them in the first place (from a certain distance mind you) and say it is because of poor marksman skill? None of the others you mentioned can even dodge a bullet on the forum, and only really aim dodge. Don't get me started on lasers.
I wouldn't bring up technique, especially since his moves often look more advanced. (Look at what he did with that spider slayer when angry), MA skills are often a bunch of stats in the first place. Again, can you show me these other characters doing "skillful moves" constantly? Nope. A punch from Spiderman is a punch and a punch from one of them is a super secret nerve strike for whatever reason.
A real combatant is one that fights, not one who has been to a dojo, there are just too many people who have proven that time and time again, oh and he's done fine without his SS soooo many times, hell it only really goes off once or twice in a comic anyways, he doesn't utilize it to the best of the ability as portrayed in the comics. Also he has faced Puma someone with similar abilities but more "MA skill".
Now can Parker use some specialized training? Of course he can, who couldn't? But to insinuate that he's going to be walked all over by a person who has taken an MA class is just silly, especially when he has a superhuman ability to read their moves. Opponents have a harder time reading him and it has been shown time and time again because his moves are more unorthodox to begin with in the first place. Do I have to bring up the Jiu Jitsu story again?
