Originally posted by rotiart
But it still setsthe precedent that even in the 616 universe the ig wasn't all knowing and hence possibly all powerful
The IG's effect was based on the users Intent.
meaning wherever he focused his will, the effect happened.
Absorbing all the knowledge in the universe is a feat that would destroy any comic character.
IG didn't do that.
You know I'm talking about ig vs maelstrom right now and it's a fight you won't win so your spinning it back to a topic your more comfortable with.
And as for the sensory perceptions you are assuming that there was a requirement to focus your intent... Can you verify that sensory perception is not an automatic ability
Originally posted by rotiart
You know I'm talking about ig vs maelstrom right now and it's a fight you won't win so your spinning it back to a topic your more comfortable with.And as for the sensory perceptions you are assuming that there was a requirement to focus your intent... Can you verify that sensory perception is not an automatic ability
Depending on the users perception.
The more you understand the more you see.
And Thanos pretty much had it all figured out 😮💨
Originally posted by rotiartOk. What is it you have a problem with? What reasoning of mine is off?
You know I'm talking about ig vs maelstrom right now and it's a fight you won't win so your spinning it back to a topic your more comfortable with.And as for the sensory perceptions you are assuming that there was a requirement to focus your intent... Can you verify that sensory perception is not an automatic ability
Maelstrom only disappeared after he tanked a blast from Thanos. Really alot of beings such as abstracts could have tanked one blast from IG. if he actually went toe-to-toe with Thanos then it would have been safe to say that Maelstrom=Thanos with IG.
Eternity went up agaisnt Thanos for a good amount of time.
Originally posted by rotiartHe wasn't. To even argue so is baseless and incorrect. There's no way he could have stood toe to toe with Thanos for long.
That maelstrom was not up there with the ig in power
that you think only lt is above the ig:-)
Originally posted by galactusischereExactly.
Maelstrom only disappeared after he tanked a blast from Thanos. Really alot of beings such as abstracts could have tanked one blast from IG. if he actually went toe-to-toe with Thanos then it would have been safe to say that Maelstrom=Thanos with IG.Eternity went up agaisnt Thanos for a good amount of time.
Quasar travelled to another reality where maelstrom had fought thanos and there maelstrom an thanos were both called omnipotent by the watcher
theonly apparent difference in that universe was that maelstrom fought thanos with the ig rather than leaving
that maelstrom blasted quasar into the greater omniverse where he received the starbrand
Originally posted by rotiartAlternate reality version which cannot be used. This was a maelstrom who usurped Oblivion and became more powerful in all likelihood on panel.
Quasar travelled to another reality where maelstrom had fought thanos and there maelstrom an thanos were both called omnipotent by the watchertheonly apparent difference in that universe was that maelstrom fought thanos with the ig rather than leaving
that maelstrom blasted quasar into the greater omniverse where he received the starbrand
Originally posted by quanchi112Don't worry, I'm scanning it for you. So you can't use the whole, "I don't care to read it excuse."
LOL. I can't comment on something I haven't read. Another dodge.That's been referenced in Thanos' own series. What's bs about it other than you not liking doom's portrayal in it?
Seriously, shut up. I never questioned Marvel: The End's canonicity.
Originally posted by BentleyAre you really surprised?
If you haven't read something how in heck can you say you're absolutely right?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Alternate reality version which cannot be used. This was a maelstrom who usurped Oblivion and became more powerful in all likelihood on panel.
1. Maelstrom didn't usurp oblivion... To do that he needed to wipe out the universe with a black hole... He did not do that
2. But as to the 616 maelstrom. On panel thano did not affect maelstrom with a blast that he thought should have obliterated him. And Boone has tanked a blast from thanos unfazed except for maelstrom and the living tribunal
Originally posted by rotiartthe only apparent difference in that universe
was that maelstrom fought thanos with the ig rather than leaving
It's not impossible to say he had an alternate IG,
but there's no proof that I know of that signifies this as fact.
True. What I interpreted is that on one page they mention that quasar doesn't remember thanos or the events of the infinity gauntlet
and on the next page mentions he wonders hat events lead up to thanos attaining omnipotent power also...
I put those together to say that thanos had the ig
but true. They don't directly say he has the ig... To me it's more indirect
But your right I couldn't find them saying it explicitly that thanos had the ig either
Originally posted by OneDumbG0You implied it was garbage. Go ahead.
Don't worry, I'm scanning it for you. So you can't use the whole, "I don't care to read it excuse."Seriously, shut up. I never questioned Marvel: The End's canonicity. Are you really surprised?
Originally posted by rotiartHe didn't in the 616 reality but common sense tells us he did so in the alternate reality where he faced off against Thanos. Either way it's an alternate reality with too many unknowns so you bringing it up doesn't help your case at all.
1. Maelstrom didn't usurp oblivion... To do that he needed to wipe out the universe with a black hole... He did not do that2. But as to the 616 maelstrom. On panel thano did not affect maelstrom with a blast that he thought should have obliterated him. And Boone has tanked a blast from thanos unfazed except for maelstrom and the living tribunal
2.Yes, because Maelstrom was more powerful than Thanos anticipated. He wasn't anywhere near Eternity level at this point and a blast like this wouldn't have even made eternity flinch.
1. Common sense doesn't not tell us he did usurp oblivion. If you read quasar you would know the requirement for him to attain oblivions position was to wipe out the entire universe with a black hole first... The universe was not destroyed...you are not following the events leading to maelstrom rise in power and are making assumptions based upon what I'm telling you..
2. That is not answering what I posted at all. You cannot prove that while in the 616 universe eternity would have tanked it. Outside in the room on manifestation he tells us he would have been unfazed... While in the 616 universe thanos defeats eternity off panel. You haven't identifed who could tank a blast from the ig while in it's home dimension other than maelstrom
Originally posted by rotiart1.They explain had maelstrom won that he would have usurped Oblivion's position. I am saying if the events followed the 616 ones he'd have taken over and supplanted Oblivion's place.
1. Common sense doesn't not tell us he did usurp oblivion. If you read quasar you would know the requirement for him to attain oblivions position was to wipe out the entire universe with a black hole first... The universe was not destroyed...you are not following the events leading to maelstrom rise in power and are making assumptions based upon what I'm telling you..2. That is not answering what I posted at all. You cannot prove that while in the 616 universe eternity would have tanked it. Outside in the room on manifestation he tells us he would have been unfazed... While in the 616 universe thanos defeats eternity off panel. You haven't identifed who could tank a blast from the ig while in it's home dimension other than maelstrom
2. I posted a scan which you misinterpreted with eternity basically saying the effects would be nonexistent. Comics support me while you are all over the map.