Technopathy vs Telepathy vs Telekinesis vs Magnetism

Originally posted by Mindship
Without power level being established...TK, fer shur. Telepathy won't work against nonliving matter; magnetism (strictly speaking) works only on ferrous materials (if you're going to allow molecular manipulation, then that would hold for TK, too); and technopathy...if I understand this right, it's useless w/o tech to manipulate.

Originally posted by King Castle
nah, that's like sayin that we all need a medical degree to run our bodies.. some/most of it comes with time and practice also innate knowledge/instinctual.

Which is a good thing.

Are we actually talking about Magnetism alone as a power or control over Electromagnetism like Magneto has? Because the theoretical implications of control over Electromagnetism are nearly limitless, and far surpasses the limits of the other three.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Are we actually talking about Magnetism alone as a power or control over Electromagnetism like Magneto has? Because the theoretical implications of control over Electromagnetism are nearly limitless, and far surpasses the limits of the other three.

What can it do that tk couldn't?

mastery of the fundamental nature of the universe at least one of the three forces.

So what can it do that tk couldn't?

Originally posted by Mindset
So what can it do that tk couldn't?

Nate Grey can duplicate a few Magnetic power feats from magneto's memories others brain mapping and applying his TK to simulate the feat but it isnt the same as he actually has to focus on a specific act which comes more naturally to the likes of magneto.

Magneto can open wormholes, pick up atmospheric frequencies messages, interact with electronics,.. and if we get down to physics complete mastery of electromagnetics would make one a God and mastery over time and space and just about every particle in the universe.

What Mags did you can do with tk.

As for the other part of your post, you are wrong wrong wrong. Also, you are wrong. sneer

Who is to say as a manipulator of magnetism you get an innate knowledge, as opposed to say TK?

Mastery of Magnetism is absurdly powerful..

the poster should have given a power range..

like lvl 3 to 5

in the real world i limit it to 3 power scale for them all.

Originally posted by Mindset
So what can it do that tk couldn't?

I suppose that all depends on current scientific theories like special relativity and QED being right, but assuming they are it would theoretically give Magneto the ability to do almost anything. Control over both space and time, he'd be effectively unstopable.

Wouldn't strong/precise enough tk allow you to do pretty much anything?

Nuul giving us some power levels would help end all this Theory Fighter II Turbo stuff.

to an extend by it should only go down to the atom at least that is the limit in comics. iirc at least last i read with old natey boy.

then you have reality warping goin subatomic to quantum strings..

Electromagnetism has control of the atom, subatomics

Strong enough tk would not be stopped at the atomic level.

but nate grey is.. he can only go as far as what he can understand and grasp and it just gets more complicated further down one goes.. its all chaotic.

OK, Nate Grey isn't the limit for how strong tk can be, so I don't see how that matters.

he is to me... 😒 he can crack the planet like an egg, explode a star with a though... etc etc.. ooh yeh, his power is equal to the phoenix force avatar..xman

in comics by the way Magneto struggled with summoning and controlling Atoms back in the 80's.

that might have changed.

I suppose the difference is that strong enough tk would give you complete control over mater but - in the real world at least - I don't think you would be able to exert control over electromagnetic energy like light and other radiation. I guess time and space manip would be theoretically possible for a high level tk user but only as a by product of increasing mass to an incredible degree, I'm not sure it could be done in any sort of controlled or intentional manor.... but we are getting why passed my understanding of physics.

Nate Grey can manipulate atoms, as well as light particles and bend fold space/time for dimensional travel and phasing..

I'm really only addressing the "In the real world" part. TK gives you control over matter, and since photons have no mass they should be outside the area of influence of a TK user in the real world.