Motherbox Iron Man vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not really. Orion's MB has pretty much done all of that. When I wrote the list, I was talking mostly of Orion. Scott has done most of those as well.

In JLA Another Nail, Barda's Mother Box contained Scott's soul. MB's can do anything the user wants.

Yes, but in a normal fight, how much does a motherbox do? Not nearly that much, and Orion is a very experienced motherbox user, unlike Tony who just got it.

It does all of those things, but one at a time. It's ultimately versatile (they can do just about *anything*), but not multi-tasking in doing high-end things, in which it tends to do one at a time.

An incredible item? Yes. A GL ring that'll bump the user up to top tier on it's own? No.

Originally posted by Q99
Yes, but in a normal fight, how much does a motherbox do? Not nearly that much, and Orion is a very experienced motherbox user, unlike Tony who just got it.

It does all of those things, but one at a time. It's ultimately versatile (they can do just about *anything*), but not multi-tasking in doing high-end things, in which it tends to do one at a time.

An incredible item? Yes. A GL ring that'll bump the user up to top tier on it's own? No.

Yeah, ultimately a GL ring is more versatile and more powerful. There is no question about that. Like you said, the MB PROTECTS the user. Who's to say IM won't turn intangible? Upgrade his sonics to knock out WW?

Remember, Tony has successfully created armors to move at near light speeds, defeated the Hulk, hanged with Sentry, etc... I think Tony will get the hang of a MB pretty quick.

Orion has used the MB to heal, turn intangible, telepathy, and get out of the Binding Bess in one run, so the MB can do more than one thing and at times, simultaneously.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yeah, ultimately a GL ring is more versatile and more powerful. There is no question about that. Like you said, the MB PROTECTS the user. Who's to say IM won't turn intangible? Upgrade his sonics to knock out WW?

Remember, Tony has successfully created armors to move at near light speeds, defeated the Hulk, hanged with Sentry, etc... I think Tony will get the hang of a MB pretty quick.

Orion has used the MB to heal, turn intangible, telepathy, and get out of the Binding Bess in one run, so the MB can do more than one thing and at times, simultaneously.

Oh, it might turn him intangible... to escape, buy him some time, but the odds of it doing everything needed to beat WW are going to be low (also, lasso can sometime snag intangibles).

Anything he does, it'll have to be in mid-battle. This isn't 'Tony spends a month learning the MB's capabilities and adjusting his style to fight with it in mind' after all, it's a normal armor with the MB recently added. Even with Tony being good at getting a hang of stuff on the fly, the MB can pull a rabbit or two out of it's hat, but most likely that'll just make it not so one-sided a fight. He's got a lot in front of him that's not going to give much time to think.

Originally posted by Q99
Oh, it might turn him intangible... to escape, buy him some time, but the odds of it doing everything needed to beat WW are going to be low (also, lasso can sometime snag intangibles).

Anything he does, it'll have to be in mid-battle. This isn't 'Tony spends a month learning the MB's capabilities and adjusting his style to fight with it in mind' after all, it's a normal armor with the MB recently added. Even with Tony being good at getting a hang of stuff on the fly, the MB can pull a rabbit or two out of it's hat, but most likely that'll just make it not so one-sided a fight. He's got a lot in front of him that's not going to give much time to think.

WW is hard to take down, but she CAN be taken down. A Silver Banshee just took her down. I think IM can do something similar with his sonics. Afterall, the MB can upgrade his equipment. To what extent? That all depends on the writer. Some writers portray the MB as uber and some don't.

Wondy lassos Motherbox and bonks I.M. on the head with a bracer

Originally posted by Prep-Man
WW is hard to take down, but she CAN be taken down. A Silver Banshee just took her down. I think IM can do something similar with his sonics. Afterall, the MB can upgrade his equipment. To what extent? That all depends on the writer. Some writers portray the MB as uber and some don't.

Note that Jeannette's attacked worked by making Diana experience her own execution- it's not exactly an indication of how pure sonics do, it was a mystic death attack that happened to be carried by sound. Tony's sonics can't do anything like that no matter how they're upgraded (and there's still matters line speed and all. A MB may upgrade him in one or two areas to be on the right level, but it won't upgrade him in every area).

And we already saw to the extent of this Tony+MB, in JLA/Avengers. This is an existing character build we're talking about.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
WW is hard to take down, but she CAN be taken down. A Silver Banshee just took her down. I think IM can do something similar with his sonics. Afterall, the MB can upgrade his equipment. To what extent? That all depends on the writer. Some writers portray the MB as uber and some don't.

In fairness, it wasn't the sonic aspect of the wail that knocked out Diana. I remember Gail Simone addressing some very ticked off Wondy fans about that scene.

Anyway, Wondy wins but with the MB Tony could come up with some things I think.