2nd Round Redraft Thread

Started by -K-M-8 pages

Then how is Skuttlebutt banned then? As BRB uses it more then WW uses her weapons.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I don't see the lack of logic.

The base idea is that you can't draft a character and then use gear they've don't use as part of the version that you've drafted.

Diana has plenty of instances with various gear. Drafting straight Wonder Woman doesn't net you any of the extras. Just as this won't allow me to use BS like the medusa head, invisible jet, etc.

Just drafted the version of her that we wanted. No different than drafting a certain version of a character with innate powers, like specific Eradicators or Genis Vells. We're just being specific.

If it was a power issue, you guys would have a claim, but it's not, and Batdude told us to go ahead with this.

Not to mention we're not trying to sneak the Star Sapphire ring in.

She's been shown in comics to enter battle fully decked out before, and like Smurph stated, it certainly doesn't push her beyond the High Herald limit.

But the character is the exact same, with the exception of loopholing out of the standard equipment rule. It's not like it's two versions of the same character, it's the same character with hand-picked nonstandard equipment.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Then how is Skuttlebutt banned then? As BRB uses it more then WW uses her weapons.
Presumably because you didn't specify Bill as having Skuttlebutt at the time, and the tourney hosts didn't count it as standard for the version that you drafted (which was just Bill, correct?).

We're just drafting from the very beginning Diana when she pulls out the heavy duty gear.

Originally posted by King Kandy
But the character is the exact same, with the exception of loopholing out of the standard equipment rule. It's not like it's two versions of the same character, it's the same character with hand-picked nonstandard equipment.
It IS two versions of the same character, just as Extremis Ironman is a different version than, say, Hulkbuster Ironman.

Still falls under the spirit of the concept that powersets diverge versions of draftable characters. Just because in this case the powerset is not innate doesn't change the nature of the drafting game.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Presumably because you didn't specify Bill as having Skuttlebutt at the time, and the tourney hosts didn't count it as standard for the version that you drafted (which was just Bill, correct?).

The thing is that is the standard gear for him, there isn't a time when he doesn't have Skuttlebutt and is more apart of him (As his soul is connected to it) then WW weapons, which she rarely uses.

Originally posted by -K-M-
The thing is that is the standard gear for him, there isn't a time when he doesn't have Skuttlebutt and is more apart of him (As his soul is connected to it) then WW weapons, which she rarely uses.
If we were drafting standard Diana, the issues would be comparable, but we're not.

srug

Skuttlebutt is standard BRB though.

I also happened to get a clear signal of the ship 😐

Originally posted by -K-M-
Skuttlebutt is standard BRB though.
Ok, be that as it may, it holds no implication on this issue. We're pretty much being as clear as possible on what we're drafting her with.

Tad silly as we didn't say BRB with Stormbreaker.

Team Sexy is dropping Bill in favour for Loki.

Our team now consists of: Loki, Talisman II and Captain Comet.

Id, you're lucky I wasn't in this thing. I've never lost a quick-draw draft scenario. I wish I had that sh*t cataloged, but I have to be at least 4-0 in them. My favorite was when I had posted before the thread starter's page had loaded after creating the thread, so he never actually saw his thread without a post.

Though I probably wouldn't have been after Surfer, so meh.

And thank god Loki's being used. No clue what they'll do with him, but I've always wanted to see him used well. God knows I sure didn't in my first tourney (Zod, Loki, and Apollo for a semi-finals berth though, so I was overachieveing like mad).

Team Win drops Sinestro and Sersi.

We pick up Cassandra Nova-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Nova

and Zatanna-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zatanna

Current team-
Fully geared Diana, Cassandra Nova and Zatanna.

Femme Fatales?

Tons of respect for picking up Cassandra Nova.

And we'll put him to the utmost of use Digi, just you wait 😄

Hmmm...I wonder who Smurph will DNA copy with Nova.

God... I sincerely disagree with the idea that scuttlebutt wasn't allowed as normal gear but this wonder woman gear is...

Just saying. Since I have absolutely no authority here. :-P

What makes drafting Wonder Women with full Gear, any different to Baron Zemo w/moon stones?


TheKahn wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 12:10 AM:
I don't think we can allow Zemo for the same reason we've had to ban certain other character: the moon stones really aren't part of his standard equipment. Sorry. 😬

Indeed.

I don't see why Zemo with the moonstones shouldn't be acceptable.

Yeah! coot