Zoom VS Thor

Originally posted by jasofisc
his blows are not more powerful at all. Supes knocked Wonder woman from the sun to the earth. zoom's knocked her around the earth. how is that more powerfull? zoom doesn't take a vast majority if he takes a majority at all.

1: Diana said, in character, that his blows hit harder than Superman's, and "I should know...", meaning *she* should know... And this was after several encounters, over a number of years, of her having combated Superman for various reasons (when he was under Circe's control, The Circle storyline, A League of One, et al).

2: As I already said -- not counting a sun-amped Superman (being closer to the sun made Clark stronger in that scenario).

If you can't be bothered with properly reading what someone has posted (I already had covered your counter-arguement before you even made it), then just put me on ignore...

Originally posted by jasofisc
so omni directional god blast after taken a hundred thousand blows from zoom.

It takes Thor at least a moment to make that happen (he could summon lightening more quickly, and with desirable effect, with less effort)...

HOWEVER...

He will *never* get the chance to even think, let alone act, in this battle -- he won't even understand what is going on. Blows as strong (or stronger) as his own will be raining down on him at speeds he has never properly combated before.

Originally posted by tideoftime
1: Diana said, in character, that his blows hit harder than Superman's, and "I should know...", meaning *she* should know... And this was after several encounters, over a number of years, of her having combated Superman for various reasons (when he was under Circe's control, The Circle storyline, A League of One, et al).

2: As I already said -- not counting a sun-amped Superman (being closer to the sun made Clark stronger in that scenario).

If you can't be bothered with properly reading what someone has posted (I already had covered your counter-arguement before you even made it), then just put me on ignore...

1: ahhh I can see where your coming from now, however i was compair what the blows actually did rather then hyperbole from a character

2. you might have a point still sups has knocked her around the planet before too. just saying all other zoom showings where much less then superman

Sorry forgot about how supes was close enough to the sun for it to count. I wasn't trying to improperly read your statement just forgot a detail.

Originally posted by tideoftime
It takes Thor at least a moment to make that happen (he could summon lightening more quickly, and with desirable effect, with less effort)...

HOWEVER...

He will *never* get the chance to even think, let alone act, in this battle -- he won't even understand what is going on. Blows as strong (or stronger) as his own will be raining down on him at speeds he has never properly combated before.

so nothing on the whole opening a portal around his body so zoom runs into it. I can see what your talking about but thor is not just some slow brute he's as fast as the lighting he commands. That said your right zoom is of a speed he has not combated properly before. but he can take the punishment until the godblast is ready. or just go all out with portals, lightning, tornatos, and then the Godblast

Zoom stomp

Originally posted by jasofisc
1: ahhh I can see where your coming from now, however i was compair what the blows actually did rather then hyperbole from a character

2. you might have a point still sups has knocked her around the planet before too. just saying all other zoom showings where much less then superman

Sorry forgot about how supes was close enough to the sun for it to count. I wasn't trying to improperly read your statement just forgot a detail.

And I see where *you* are coming from: Diana doesn't speak in hyperbole -- it's a facet of her character. While she will joke or make humorous statements, she - as a character - doesn't exaggerate or distort things, and that is how she has been written for the past 25 years. She deals in true assessments of things. For example: While Superman may have been speaking somewhat hyperbolically when he said the Cheetah hits like WW or Captain Marvel (as he did during the aforementioned battle with Circe) -- and that wasn't a big stretch -- when Diana makes such a statement, her *character* is written as being free of hyperbole, because she perceives and understands *Truth* on a level few others readily comprehend -- and, more importantly, that is *how* she is written. If she, as a character, makes an assessment-statement that Zoom hits harder than Superman, then that is the case; and as she said, *she should know*. As she has fought with Superman on several occasions, and then fought with Zoom, her statement would not be hyperbolic, in anycase. Now, the Flash making that statement *would* be hyperbolic, as he doesn't have the durability/ relative combat interaction with each to accurately make such a statement and have it be true. Diana, however, does.

EDIT: Read your other post. I am officially getting out of this debate, as it is a case of "With some people, if they don't know - you can't tell'em..." Already covered what you posted in my other posts. You don't get it. That's fine. Moving on...

Originally posted by tideoftime
And I see where *you* are coming from: Diana doesn't speak in hyperbole -- it's a facet of her character. While she will joke or make humorous statements, she - as a character - doesn't exaggerate or distort things, and that is how she has been written for the past 25 years. She deals in true assessments of things. For example: While Superman may have been speaking somewhat hyperbolically when he said the Cheetah hits like WW or Captain Marvel (as he did during the aforementioned battle with Circe) -- and that wasn't a big stretch -- when Diana makes such a statement, her *character* is written as being free of hyperbole, because she perceives and understands *Truth* on a level few others readily comprehend -- and, more importantly, that is *how* she is written. If she, as a character, makes an assessment-statement that Zoom hits harder than Superman, then that is the case; and as she said, *she should know*. As she has fought with Superman on several occasions, and then fought with Zoom, her statement would not be hyperbolic, in anycase. Now, the Flash making that statement *would* be hyperbolic, as he doesn't have the durability/ relative combat interaction with each to accurately make such a statement and have it be true. Diana, however, does.

EDIT: Read your other post. I am officially getting out of this debate, as it is a case of "With some people, if they don't know - you can't tell'em..." Already covered what you posted in my other posts. You don't get it. That's fine. Moving on...

wow sorry i hurt your feelings by disagreeing with you. Just in feats alone zoom's punches don't add up to superman's. you have one instance where a character says they are. I'm pretty sure feats speak loader then words. Oh and if he really did punch harder then superman then what about the time he was punching superman a thousand times over and superman was barly affected by it.

where did you respond to the portal argument i was talking about.

so if wonderwoman says it...... its true wonderwoman is good but she's no batgod

With PIS CIS off couldn't Thor best hope would be just to blow up the planet??l

O and how about freezing time on Zoom this would be interesting http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir144-StasisVortexAvengers.jpg

Props for oneDumbGO for the new easy to find crap respect thread

Originally posted by DarkOdin
With PIS CIS off couldn't Thor best hope would be just to blow up the planet??l

Originally posted by DarkOdin
O and how about freezing time on Zoom this would be interesting http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir144-StasisVortexAvengers.jpg

Props for oneDumbGO for the new easy to find crap respect thread

Zoom doesn't operate in normal timeline..he got his own timeline..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Zoom doesn't operate in normal timeline..he got his own timeline..

I don't see how anyone can dispute Zoom's striking power. He obviously isn't physically stronger than Superman, but his strikes were stated by Diana to be harder than Superman. You can dissect that by assuming "Well, Superman instinctively holds back where Zoom goes all out just shy to the point of killing people" or "Diana doesn't know WTF she's talking about", but Zoom's strikes are sufficient enough to stagger someone like Thor. Taking CIS/PIS off means that Zoom could unleash a torrent of blows before Thor could even react. In forum fights like this, not many people can take a majority on Zoom.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor effects the area so if Zoom is hitting him he should be within his effects well in theory have we see one try or Zzoom resist another person time powers??

in theory..Zoom shouldn't be effected cuz Thor only effect the normal timeline..Zoom operate in future..i don't know if Zoom ever resist time power..

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor effects the area so if Zoom is hitting him he should be within his effects well in theory have we see one try or Zoom resist another person time powers??

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You don't understand.
Zoom has absolute control over times. Absolute! Thor has only shown limited control over his time.

what?

Originally posted by Naija boy
what?

Zoom can control his timeline in absolute. He says how fast, or fast to go. He tells time to stop, or anything else. Thor can't do that. He hasn't shown the ability. He has limited control over time. For example, who can control time better(scope), Odin, or Thor?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't know how to make it easier to understand.

Zoom can control his timeline in absolute. He says how fast, or fast to go. He tells time to stop, or anything else. Thor can't do that. He hasn't shown the ability. He has limited control over time. For example, who can control time better(scope), Odin, or Thor?

U claimed that Zoom has absolute control over time and didnt specify that it was his timeline and only his timeline that he can control in the initial post i replied to. I dont know how Odin is relevant here

Originally posted by Naija boy
U claimed that Zoom has absolute control over time and didnt specify that it was his timeline and only his timeline that he can control in the initial post i replied to. I dont know how Odin is relevant here