Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't see how anyone can dispute Zoom's striking power. He obviously isn't physically stronger than Superman, but his strikes were stated by Diana to be harder than Superman. You can dissect that by assuming "Well, Superman instinctively holds back where Zoom goes all out just shy to the point of killing people" or "Diana doesn't know WTF she's talking about", but Zoom's strikes are sufficient enough to stagger someone like Thor. Taking CIS/PIS off means that Zoom could unleash a torrent of blows before Thor could even react. In forum fights like this, not many people can take a majority on Zoom.
and their is one other thing, that was just one incident while what his striking power has never been shown to be up to sups level. I think his striking would have the same effect on thor as it did on WW. So i quess if a person thinks that Zoom could take out WW I can totally see how they might say he can take out thor.
I don't think Zoom can kill Thor, guys like Thor and Supes are in terms of durability way out of Zoom's league.
He can buzz Thor, stun Thor but he isn't killing Thor unless he brings a weapon to the fight. Also under forum rules Zoom would get a majority on many of these guys, but he isn't killing them, doesn't have the fire power or durability to do it.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They aren't too durable for him; in fact he hits harder than they do, or in their same level.
Agreed. WW's durability against blunt force trauma is pretty high, and considering she's fought Superman enough times to know what's she's talking about, if Zoom is able to put the beatdown on her, he could in theory do the same to anyone with durability around, a little below, or a little above WW's own.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Agreed. WW's durability against blunt force trauma is pretty high, and considering she's fought Superman enough times to know what's she's talking about, if Zoom is able to put the beatdown on her, he could in theory do the same to anyone with durability around, a little below, or a little above WW's own.
Checkmate listed both Superman and WW as having 'A1' invulnerability, for whatever that's worth (presumably not counting her weakness area).
And, we could likely say that Wonder Woman was comparing it to Superman's normal 'serious fight' blows, and not his all-out ones.
But still, it does boil down to 'Zoom can hit really hard'.
Originally posted by Q99
Checkmate listed both Superman and WW as having 'A1' invulnerability, for whatever that's worth (presumably not counting her weakness area).And, we could likely say that Wonder Woman was comparing it to Superman's normal 'serious fight' blows, and not his all-out ones.
But still, it does boil down to 'Zoom can hit really hard'.
Doesn't Supes one-shotted her in the atmosphere or something? (maybe that's the all out you're talking about)
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Doesn't Supes one-shotted her in the atmosphere or something? (maybe that's the all out you're talking about)
If I've deciphered your grammar correctly, the incident in question wasn't a one-shot (Superman charged her, they tussled some while he was trying to throw her into the sun, she broke free so he settled for hitting her at *full* power into the Earth from space, she blacked out for a moment or two and hit with a big crater, but she got up and continued the fight, eventually injuring him enough to get a shot at Lord), but yea, that's the all-out I'm talking about. That hadn't happened at the time of the Zoom fight.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
BFR his is not removing flash from the battle field and are you saying blowing up the planet wouldn't kill flash???
Removing the battlefield is in effect BFR, as it effectively removes the opponent from the battlefield via the removal of the battlefield, itself. Connectivity works both ways; you can BFR someone by removing them from the battlefield, or removing the battlefield from them.
Betcha' didn't think that one through, didya'? 😉