America is finished

Started by The Dark Cloud5 pages

America is finished

Government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations

Listen, the US can either accept this or give in to democracy. I think we all know what the founding fathers would have wanted.

A disaster of unimaginable proportions.

Agreed, haven't we already gone down this road already?

Oh my god,were going to go even further down now.

OMG THE WORLD IS ENDING.

I'm worried about this:

Obama has said he will mount an opposition to this. If he finds a way to pass campaign restrictions in lieu of a court ruling against them, he has forever undermined the power of the Supreme Court. Not that I'm particularly fond of the ruling, but if he is able to, defacto, ignore the ruling, Roe v Wade, evolution, and lots of other issues just become whims of the current administration.

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm worried about this:

Obama has said he will mount an opposition to this. If he finds a way to pass campaign restrictions in lieu of a court ruling against them, he has forever undermined the power of the Supreme Court. Not that I'm particularly fond of the ruling, but if he is able to, defacto, ignore the ruling, Roe v Wade, evolution, and lots of other issues just become whims of the current administration.

I very much agree. The fact of the matter is that not democracy is what has us living so nicely in the western world (like most people would have us blindly believe) but rather the separation of power and and the constitutional basis.

Everybody knows that this is more or less the dictionary definition of fascism and that if anyone tried pulling this shit in europe the streets would be piled with the mutilated corpses of politicians, CEOs, and their families right now, right?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Everybody knows that this is more or less the dictionary definition of fascism and that if anyone tried pulling this shit in europe the streets would be piled with the mutilated corpses of politicians, CEOs, and their families right now, right?

I think you might overrate the readiness of Europeans to revolt.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think you might overrate the readiness of Europeans to revolt.
The reason why europeans have it so good is because governments and the rich consider a good dose of socialism to be "radical insurance". They don't want to end up like Mussolini

BECAUSE UNIONS HAVE NO POWER AMIRITE

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
BECAUSE UNIONS HAVE NO POWER AMIRITE

What, compared to a multinational corporation?

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm worried about this:

Obama has said he will mount an opposition to this. If he finds a way to pass campaign restrictions in lieu of a court ruling against them, he has forever undermined the power of the Supreme Court. Not that I'm particularly fond of the ruling, but if he is able to, defacto, ignore the ruling, Roe v Wade, evolution, and lots of other issues just become whims of the current administration.

The Supreme Court doesn't get fiat power, though. I believe Obama can legitimately force the decision to be overturned if he gets enough Congressional support.

Great! Socialist are running to the hills.

Please stay there.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Great! Socialist are running to the hills.

Please stay there.

So you're a fascist then?

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Great! Socialist are running to the hills.

Please stay there.

How silly.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
So you're a fascist then?

How silly.

Corporatism=Fascism

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Corporatism=Fascism

I stand by what I said.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I stand by what I said.
And I stand by how Benito Mussolini defined the political system he invented.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
And I stand by how Benito Mussolini defined the political system he invented.

Like I said before you misinterpreted that, and even then that was not my point, the point was how you apply it to this situation is wrong.