War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

Started by Phanteros60 pages

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If you want to get technical, Link could punch someone into space easy.

It's only a matter of accellerating them to mach 22, which he easily has the strength to do.

Can he send them from Neptune to the Sun?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
1) You have never seen any blood come out of Link, but you see Ganondorf and others bleed in the same games, so you know its not a G-rating thing.

Referring to cutscenes right?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
3) Young Link tanks blasts strapped to his face that can destroy 3-4 ft. cured concrete walls.

Didnt he have a protective mask on at the time?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
5) Link tanks Ganondorf punches (and swords and tridents, depending on the game).

Sorry but how strong is Ganon physically?

Thing is getting pierced/sliced is in a different scale to those blunt and blast hits. Yeah it shows high durability but not from a blade 😐

Sorry but how strong is Ganon physically?

Thing is getting pierced/sliced is in a different scale to those blunt and blast hits. Yeah it shows high durability but not from a blade

Ganon is stronger physicly than Link. Link chucks thousand ton pillars at over 75 m/s.
Didnt he have a protective mask on at the time?
No.

Referring to cutscenes right?
In cutscenes we see:
Link get fired at the ground, out of a cannon in the sky.
Ganon ***** slap young Link
Ganon shoot young Link with magic, albeit before he had the ToP, this was also before Link had the ToC, though.
Link fall from an undetermined height unharmed.
Young Link survive the destruction of the moon as Majora's death throes did /something bad/ to it. We dunno what, exactly.

Edit: and to clarify, as far as physical attacks go, be it sword, or punch, they're all an expression of PSI of an area of the body. Swords are more effective because they generate more PSI over less area, thus, cutting.

However, it's worth noting Link's faced Ganon wielding swords in multiple occasions, to think he's never been touched is a little illogical.

Screampaste, are you going to answer my question?

Can he send them from Neptune to the Sun?
More math than's worth doing. Eventually they'd probably make it there via lack of resistance, so sure.

Now answer mine: How's she gonna defend herself from spell?

Hes stronger then base Link, but the pillar was with the golden gauntlets. Unless its been shown/said that that's he's stronger even if he has them.

Thats what im saying, those feats mentioned cant really compare to a blade and without going into special blades.

But he's only been hit by the sword or trident during gameplay afaik.

Wait, what? Rule 63 Dante is supposed to have the strength to punch someone into space?

I believe Ganon is actually the only thing to hit Link outside of gameplay.

Wut?

Hes stronger then base Link, but the pillar was with the golden gauntlets. Unless its been shown/said that that's he's stronger even if he has them.
Nah, TP Link basicly has Golden Gauntlets under his skin thanks to the triforce of courage, which is an implied retcon, and he needed to weaken Ganon severely via three fights prior to win a sword lock with him.

In OoT, Ganon disarms Link who has the golden gauntlets.

Thats what im saying, those feats mentioned cant really compare to a blade and without going into special blades.
Yeah they can, because they're all an expression of PSI. Dante would need to produce more PSI than any of the other physical strieks Link tanked without damage in order to hurt him. A sword is more efficient in terms of creating PSI, but will not auto win aganst blunt attacks with much more force. If you want to get technical, everytime Link swings his sword he exerts his own hands to a minimum of 8494 tons of PSI. O-o

But he's only been hit by the sword or trident during gameplay afaik.
Are you implying Link is too quick/skilled to be hit by Ganondorf?

Lets say its take 100 'blah' of force to hurt link with those moves, it would take a considerably less amount of 'blah' if its concentrated into a sword to get the same results. Dante wouldnt need to produce that level of strength when using a sword.

No.. well maybe. If Link has agility feats to dodge a skilled whip-crack the yeah. Point i was going for was that him getting slashed in gameplay isnt the same as in a cutscene.

Seems we're saying the same thing in different languages, BloodRain.

PSI = Pounds per square inch. A sword is more efficient at creating PSI, so yes, with less strength Dante can create the same force over a certain area that a punch would create over a large area, but he still needs to be strong enough, even with a sword, to excede 9000 tons of PSI, which Link is under, without harm anytime he swings his sword against a static object.

If you were to look at the force behind the sword lock with Ganon, you'd be quite amazed how much PSI it will take to cut either Ganondorf or Link.

Also, Link has other feats to fall back on, but yeah. We have the same idea with the sword. But it'd need to be proven Dante's sword can excede that force.

Edit: as a side note, I discovered this ridiculous anomaly when I was doing math to prove bullets wouldn't hurt Link in another thread. I love math. Am I a bad person?

Guess your right ^^;
I just need to work out how much a blade would change the force needed. (Like if a blade needs 5x less PSI then 'normal' the holder would only need to exert at least 1800 tons of PSI, give or take.)

Nah imho maths is greatly needed in vs fights 😛

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
However, it's worth noting Link's faced Ganon wielding swords in multiple occasions, to think he's never been touched is a little illogical.

To think he has without seeing it is a little fallacious 😉

En guarde!

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
More math than's worth doing. Eventually they'd probably make it there via lack of resistance, so sure.

Now answer mine: How's she gonna defend herself from spell?

Keep in mind she had no problems with sending a giant there and link is an ant compare to that.

And she counters spell, how?

What spell?

Naryu's love won't save Link being punched into space though. While it might damage him he can still be sent there.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If you want to get technical, Link could punch someone into space easy.

It's only a matter of accellerating them to mach 22, which he easily has the strength to do.

Edit: How will they protect themselves from Spell? Zelda II, turns enemies into goo.

Quake medallion from Link to the past? Only damages enemies and turns the weak ones into slime, and they'd have to be on the ground for it to work.

Nah, Spell, from Zelda II. It was for the NES back in I think 88. Different power entirely. Turns all enemies, even flying ones, into bots. (Goo)

Edit: Though, he would have Quake, Bombos, and Ether, as well by this thread's rules.