War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

Started by ScreamPaste60 pages

Like I said, the boots would never work the way they do if they were so light. Stoping a 200 ton Goron in morion takes more than 1000 lbs.

I also just pointed out Link has about ten different types of invuln he can use. O.o Including one which makes him invisble and intangible, without restructing his use of magic.

Link also can use Farore's wind to prevent himself being BFR'd. Quicksilver runs out. Dante can't actually achieve anythign while time is slowed, anyway.

What do Smell of Fear and Untouchable do, specificly?

So more then 6x.

Cape being the best there. How many bottles does Link have, or are items unlimited in a vs fight?

It draws off his DT gauge which is a gameplay mechanic as Dante has an unknown limit of energy (unlimited bullets). QS can be used to evade or even strike him the team before shields and such go up.

Fear- Renders the player invulnerable to three enemy attacks.
Untouchable- Renders the player invulnerable for a short period of time.

Fear, his speed and QS will make it last for a long time before he needs to use it again.

Cape being the best there. How many bottles does Link have, or are items unlimited in a vs fight?
Five or six in each game, but to give him that many bottles is /extremely/ asinine, and I don't think it'd be fair, so I've been assuming about 5 bottles. Things that they can contain include
-Chateau Romani, infinite magic for 3 days. (?!?!)
-Grandma's soup: Full health and double damage. (..!?!?)
-Great Fairy's Tears: See grandma's soup.
-Blue potion: Full health and magic
Ect.

It draws off his DT gauge which is a gameplay mechanic as Dante has an unknown limit of energy (unlimited bullets). QS can be used to evade or even strike him the team before shields and such go up.
Well, technicly Link's triforce never fades, so we could say he has an unknown amount of energy too. 😛 But we won't. Dante's stamina is limited, and as he gets tired his 'energy' and his regeneration both slacken.

It's also worth noting that as the least physicly powerful on his team I don't believe he could really hurt Link. And the cape, really, is just clothing, anyway. But assuming he has to take a moment to use it, I still do not see Dante as a threat. Link in this case inherently has the "silver hearts" which is basicly a damage sponge that doubles his health in gameplay. It makes him more durable, how much more durable isn't specific so I'll guess on the low-end. Also, worth note is being able to just walk onto the field wearing the red mail, cape, and boots. They're clothes. The mail, which is passive, and doesn't require him to turn on, unlike the cape, is a further damage sponge which absorbs 75% of gameplay damage. Again, I'll guess on the low end, and say that combining these two only marginally increases his survivability for the sake of not getting ridiculous. But this thread *really* has given Link far too much. I'd question Dante's ability to harm TP Link without any armour, but the Link this thread allows is beyond Dante being able to put down. Especially not before Link puts up one of his many defenses.

He can cast the shield spell instantly, turn on the cape, do a little dance, make a little Nayru's love, or swing the Cane of Byrna around in the time Dante's twaddling at him. In reality, a composite Link such as this has nothing at all to fear from Dante, and will probably ignore him until the much stronger, and slower, Bayonetta and Kratos are out of the picture. Dante's fast enough to avoid getting killed in the melee while he has team mates, but he can't run forever, particularly not from an invisible enemy that can slow time, or travel through it, which is another power I've been ignoring.

Do Fear and Untouchable protect him from powerful magic, as well as physical hits?

Edit: I included Dante in another thread, and would appreciate your input, sir. 🙂

Moar edit: The largest flaw I see in my own argument is War's survival while Link does all of this buffing. Can War prevent himself from being BFR'd or killed by those three for a few moments?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Well if Links at a weight of... 80kg, 6 times that would be 1,058.2lbs. By the size of whoever was punched she was definitely over even 1000lbs.

NL being up, means he cant use any magic right? Was saying that without it up he can defiantly be pierced by both.
Quicksilver at best has been show to slow time so much it appears paused. The limits of his devil energy are unknown seeing as he can shoot unlimited amount of bullets that are made of his energy so running out isn't much of a problem.

Size of the cut plus the distance with only a shockwave is a sample of its great cutting strength. Yamato wont have any trouble damaging team 1.

Smell of Fear/Untouchable with Dante any the opponent will have trouble.

Are there no GoW fans left on KMC? :/

I'm still here but its just that I debating on Bayo right a the moment instead of Kratos.

Bayonetta needs to go away. Too many threads.

I admit I may have been the one to cause all these Bayo threads starting the Kain vs Bayo thread

edit: she is suffering from the Link syndrome.

I've only ever made one Link thread, and it was a shovel gauntlet. 😐

I don't see why people keep putting him in so many threads. 🙁 It's like they like watching me. <_<

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
As a side note: Phanteros, can you provide videos of Bayonetta's strength?

I saw a video of her swinging some multiple times larger than her metal object like it was a wooden baseball bat. With her hair, she lifted that large boss.

That's all I know 😛

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I've only ever made one Link thread, and it was a shovel gauntlet. 😐

I don't see why people keep putting him in so many threads. 🙁 It's like they like watching me. <_<

I think its because of the Dante vs Link.

I put Bayo in one thread and the next thing I see three threads sprouting out.

YouTube video

Why are guys talking about Link's durability? Outside of Naryu's magic and his shield and chainmail Link is as susceptible to harm as any human/Hylian.

Without these things his body wouldn't stand a chance against a half demon like Dante.

Originally posted by Allankles
Why are guys talking about Link's durability? Outside of Naryu's magic and his shield and chainmail Link is as susceptible to harm as any human/Hylian.

Without these things his body wouldn't stand a chance against a half demon like Dante.

Sigh.....
Save yourself the trouble and don't post unless you know the feats of the character. It will help everyone, trust me.

Also, I think it would be humorous to have one of Link's bottle contain the Jesus-Wasp he catches in LTTP. That little demon RAPES!
The bee goes on a killing spree while Link takes a second to buff.

Also, you guys are forgetting that there are 4 Links to fight, because the Link this thread allows gets the Four Sword as well anything else he wants.

Hey, are we counting Link's Awakening Link too?

What kind of grandma make a soup to kill your foes? .__.

When his stamina was low i dont recall his regeneration energy being any different. But difference is Dante has shown using <limitless amounts as he can make an endless supply of ammo that is creted from his DT. Besides it refills pretty quick.

Reason why im saying he has the better chance above the two is that hes fast enough to get hits in (unlike Kratos) and has a blade (that Bay does not) with some half-baked maths to follow this choice later. Not even sure how the all different Links are one for this as they're different characters, meh. I got some others opinions on this; [S=point/edge of a sword] 9000/(S x extra cutting power of Yamato)=PSI in tons needed to damage Link. 'S' only has to be around 50 to hurt him.
(btw got calcs for this and even Links box/pillar weight, if you want to check i can try find them)

Whats either of the time power called? Agree that this Link, especially until im bothered to think of an argument, is 6.5/3.5 Link. But i just like to look at all possibilities ;p

Yup, tis how it works

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Edit: I included Dante in another thread, and would appreciate your input, sir. 🙂

Moar edit: The largest flaw I see in my own argument is War's survival while Link does all of this buffing. Can War prevent himself from being BFR'd or killed by those three for a few moments?

Soon as i check out Ty DoW i'll dive in, thinking with the opponents and the odds against him War would fall. All vs3 is stomp, vs2 will take him down and vs1 can hold him off for a while.

War turning Chaos = Invincibility + retarded strength. Also stone skin, Armageddon blade, a bladed glaive that can track enemies. Team 2 has to get close to war to hurt him, and thats when he strikes and kills.

Said in the other thread but; Majin form acts in the same way. Think Kratos' rage modes must give him a good edge.

True Majin form is BA as well. I don't know if it is as strong as War's Chaos' form though. And i don't know about Krato's Rage form, but do you honestly think it will be as strong a one of the four horseman's ultimate form? or the son of Sparda's ultimate demon form? i don't think so.

I actually like Dante more than War, and just between them i think it would be one awesome fight, but in this scenario i have to give it to the elf wonder and War

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Sigh.....
Save yourself the trouble and don't post unless you know the feats of the character. It will help everyone, trust me.

So people that don't know what you do shouldn't post?

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
So people that don't know what you do shouldn't post?

Don't be that way.
All I'm saying is that all of the essential information on him is in this thread, and just because he didn't read the entire thread doesn't mean that his ignorance is forgivable. I would have rather he said that he hates Link and hopes he dies rather than posting lies because he doesn't know any better. I don't like lies.

Allankles: Please continue to post as much as you desire, but bear in mind to do your homework thoroughly, because I am a fanboy and may have a course attitude when responding to false information.
I'm sorry for you if you are offended.

When his stamina was low i dont recall his regeneration energy being any different. But difference is Dante has shown using <limitless amounts as he can make an endless supply of ammo that is creted from his DT. Besides it refills pretty quick.
There's a cutscene where Dante gets his ass kicked by Vergil, in which his regeneration is acting extremely sub-par to it's normal near-instantness, and he falls over unconcious, and begins to bleed out. 😛 Only reason he didn't die if I remember right is his DT went off.

I got some others opinions on this; [S=point/edge of a sword] 9000/(S x extra cutting power of Yamato)=PSI in tons needed to damage Link. 'S' only has to be around 50 to hurt him.
(btw got calcs for this and even Links box/pillar weight, if you want to check i can try find them)
As KMC's local math nerd, ofcourse I'd like to see them. I'd be happy to share my own calculations with you, as well.

Also, yeah. Grandma's soup is OP.

Edit: There's a sort ofrunning joke on the internet that War is the bastard child of Link and Kratos. (Link obviously being the father. 131)
In spirit of this I'd like to be able to debate that Link manages to defend his GoW'd up offspring. So, I'm going to start planning ways for Link to defend his team mate, rather than just kill the other team. He's a good guy, after all.

@ Yoda: I think the guy who made both forms is the same guy as they are essentially the same; invincible, the characters skills are multiplied by alot and they are both damn tall o.o
Haha no no only that lets say for example Dante vs War is 6/4 War, a charged up Kratos would tip the scale in their favour.

I actually mostly agree, but as i fully know 1 out of these 5 i want to look at every angle first before making a decision.