I'M not saying you couldn't. I was just trying to stop this argument by proving that it is absolutly ridiculous. Calling Link a Champion is more of a type of being as well. But the Holder of Courage, and Champion of the Goddess Farore, are not types of beings, those are just titles. Thus, by vs. logic, those are useless.
Holder of Courage merely refers to the fact that Link holds the Triforce of Courage. It's speculation, but it's not out of the question that Link's superhuman abilities may have something to do with the Artifact Of Divine Power embedded in his hand. He's the Champion of Farore because she's the Goddess associated with Courage and the color green, same as Link. And he still reincarnates every time something evil appears. It's more speculation, but I'm of the opinion that he is also granted immense luck and some help from above. You know how he always has the item needed to get through the dungeon? Farore did it. He's got a goddess watching out for him, or at least her power through the Triforce.
/wild mass guessing
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I haven't confused anything. You are picking and choosing what statements you made will best help you based on what others say. You need to be looking at the whole picture you painted.They are super human. The developers have said this, and it has been shown multiple times.
You said these characters need a reason or their feats are toonforce. They do not have true reasons.
You mean statements the developers made, it all adds up to the big picture, your looking at it and ignoring it.
Show me Hylians being stated as superhuman. This will then bring Links feats one step closer to the legitimacy of the other characters.
I think developers stating their superhuman is a good reason for superhuman feats somehow, but your going to keep spamming the same nonsense because your wrong, you just dont want to concede, prides! 🙄
Originally posted by The Scenario
Holder of Courage merely refers to the fact that Link holds the Triforce of Courage. It's speculation, but it's not out of the question that Link's superhuman abilities may have something to do with the Artifact Of Divine Power embedded in his hand. He's the Champion of Farore because she's the Goddess associated with Courage and the color green, same as Link. And he still reincarnates every time something evil appears. It's more speculation, but I'm of the opinion that he is also granted immense luck and some help from above. You know how he always has the item needed to get through the dungeon? Farore did it. He's got a goddess watching out for him, or at least her power through the Triforce./wild mass guessing
exactly, /wild mass guessing constitutes to most of Links feats and powers, more so their legitimacy, unfortunatley this does not work in Games vs.
Who are you to call me a liar,The one currently calling you on your crap. There's a bunch of us, but right now, it's me. Thw hip feat, as has been mentioned, is legit. Furthermore, you're the one trying to claim everythign in serious games as toonforce specificly because you don't like what those feats would mean.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The one currently calling you on your crap. There's a bunch of us, but right now, it's me. Thw hip feat, as has been mentioned, is legit. Furthermore, you're the one trying to claim everythign in serious games as toonforce specificly because you don't like what those feats would mean.
Its not a feat though, so no your lieing, "wild assumptions and guesses" 🙄
Not really, I am trying to claim that Links feats are toonforce, just like how Mario can lift castles and galaxy busting, because its fun and not thought out and more importantly has no exceptions like all those dudes who do have canon exceptions. Your word is not an exception, your "has to" arguments do not work and are not canon I am afraid to say.
They would not mean anything lol, based on Bloodrains PSI calacualtion (and your own), the tip of a sword or sharp weapon would shred Link/Dante from someone with minor strength. Your Links too slow to put strength to use anyway in a real vs.
I just like dissolving the "lollovelink" clubs nonsense and collapsing fandom.
It's a good thing your total lack of logic, understanding of physics or the canon of the games you've never played lets us all have a laugh, or the entire lolloveLinkclub, as you like to call us, would have you on ignore.
You;ve never actually disolved or defeated anything, just made ridiculous claims.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's a good thing your total lack of logic, understanding of physics or the canon of the games you've never played lets us all have a laugh, or the entire lolloveLinkclub, as you like to call us, would have you on ignore.You;ve never actually disolved or defeated anything, just made ridiculous claims.
not really, it would be nice if you had me on ignore, I could destroy your arguments while not having to reply to your spam/trolling attempts. Perfect really. And I lold at lack of logic, your the one who makes exceptions for things not explained to suit your arguments while using your assumptions as canon feats.
Yes, right. Like the baseless claim you just made there? I call you out on your rubbish in every thread, you constantly in denile is just your childish little attempt at covering up your nonsense.
Yes, right. Like the baseless claim you just made there? I call you out on your rubbish in every thread, you constantly in denile is just your childish little attempt at covering up your nonsense.No you scream toonforce in the face of feats you don't like, and totally ignore cutscenes that don't bode well for you. You make outrageous claims, and claims which have been proven incorrect over and over in other threads. I'm still a fan of rubbing your claim that Kain could reacreate the big bang in, or that he could mind wipe MewTwo. haermm
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No you scream toonforce in the face of feats you don't like, and totally ignore cutscenes that don't bode well for you. You make outrageous claims, and claims which have been proven incorrect over and over in other threads. I'm still a fan of rubbing your claim that Kain could reacreate the big bang in, or that he could mind wipe MewTwo. haermm
Not really, I dont "like" Dantes speed feats or his strength or weapons but I dont call them toonforce. Dante is imo the only comparative character who could face Kain and win the majority yet I dont call any of his feats toonforce. Links are however, or as close as you can get without being a toon (in some cases he is a toon).
And none of my claims (save maybe a couple of misconceptions) have been proven incorrect. Were still waiting to see Link survive a bullet, show any good speed or durability feats (not baselss assumptions) and I am still waiting for the proof Hylians are superhuman or that any of links items give him the edge Dante, Kain etc have for their feats.
Fact is you cant argue against my claims, I am argueing against yours constantly. Hell even when I dont have to and their just jibberish I argue and dissolve them like the "whip" assumption.
This is the part where you pretend you've ever won. /Eyeroll. You've never "dissolved" anything. You're currently arguing against Link's strength feats with something as poorly thoguht out as denying a cutscene, based no less, on physics which you don't understand. Nothing about the scene defies physics. And yet, you'll argue the point, because Link's a Hylian, and Hylians aren't given super powers in popular culture... Ohwait. Hylians are IP of Nintendo, no one else gets to make shit up about them, and Nintendo /has/ given some Hylians super powers. 😮! Looks like you've got nothing. Again.
Fact is; your claims are so poorly thought out that they argue against themselves.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is the part where you pretend you've ever won. /Eyeroll. You've never "dissolved" anything. You're currently arguing against Link's strength feats with something as poorly thoguht out as denying a cutscene, based no less, on physics which you don't understand. Nothing about the scene defies physics. And yet, you'll argue the point, because Link's a Hylian, and Hylians aren't given super powers in popular culture... Ohwait. Hylians are IP of Nintendo, no one else gets to make shit up about them, and Nintendo /has/ given some Hylians super powers. 😮! Looks like you've got nothing. Again.Fact is; your claims are so poorly thought out that they argue against themselves.
And you deny that I have. Deny a lot of things, its not based on physics, your the one assuming it has to make sense. LoZ does not operate under your rules, it operates under its own which so far have not made exceptions for strength/durability apart from in the respective items he wears.
Nintendo has not given "superpowers", its given them random feats just like Cartoons do, this does not have to relate to physics at all and Nintendo unlike the respective companies for LoK, DMC, GoW do not outline why this is possible, it just happens, like cartoons.
Not at all, your claims are poorly thought out, make assumptions based on what you think works for your argument then you make physical calaculations, only taking into account what makes your characters strong, you totally ignore the fact a lot of feats are toonforce, do not make physical sense (link struggling to lift something would never be able to throw it, let alone the distance/speed you think). He also hardly moves his arms to throw it.
All physical impossibilities. The numbers for the feats are all yours and your assumption that they have to work with physics which they deny.
Also just a note, what guide claims the rock is granite?
Originally posted by Burning thought
Also just a note, what guide claims the rock is granite?
Don't even get yourself into official guides. The official guide says that the Gauntlets can move mountains.
Mountains > black granite pillar
Also, you realize that your argument has eroded into "LoZ isn't real!", don't you?
If you no longer have any rebuttle other than attempting to deny what we can all see with our own eyes, than this debate has been over since you started making those claims. Perhaps before even that.
For the love of God, / this thread.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Don't even get yourself into official guides. The official guide says that the Gauntlets can move mountains.
Mountains > black granite pillarAlso, you realize that your argument has eroded into "LoZ isn't real!", don't you?
If you no longer have any rebuttle other than attempting to deny what we can all see with our own eyes, than this debate has been over since you started making those claims. Perhaps before even that.For the love of God, / this thread.
Show? also thats quite irrelevant but still....also not every statement in an offical guide is canon to the game. Guides are often informal documents made to help you through the gameplay.
You have an extremely poor ability to judge an argument is shown to be wrong again and again. Go and read arguments before you blunder in here.
We can also see bugs bunny, Mario and Team rocket out of pokemon do things, does that mean its physically possible? no......
Originally posted by Burning thought
You mean statements the developers made, it all adds up to the big picture, your looking at it and ignoring it.Show me Hylians being stated as superhuman. This will then bring Links feats one step closer to the legitimacy of the other characters.
I think developers stating their superhuman is a good reason for superhuman feats somehow, but your going to keep spamming the same nonsense because your wrong, you just dont want to concede, prides! 🙄
No, sir, I am looking at the whole picture. It is a connect the dots type of picture, and sadly, the last two dots are not connected. You are assuming they are, which for the sake of fairness you cannot do.
I can't. Stop trying to think this is what I'm proving. I want you to finally decide what you are going to choose to use as your argument and apply it fairly to all characters. You have two choices, you can stick with your toonforce argument but accept that this applies to Dante, Kain and Kratos or you can finally drop the argument like the nonsense that it is.
I'll agree that I am spamming nonsense, but the real kicker is that this is your nonsense, not mine. This is your argument applied to everyone, not just Link. As soon as you realize this we can move on.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No, sir, I am looking at the whole picture. It is a connect the dots type of picture, and sadly, the last two dots are not connected. You are assuming they are, which for the sake of fairness you cannot do.I can't. Stop trying to think this is what I'm proving. I want you to finally decide what you are going to choose to use as your argument and apply it fairly to all characters. You have two choices, you can stick with your toonforce argument but accept that this applies to Dante, Kain and Kratos or you can finally drop the argument like the nonsense that it is.
I'll agree that I am spamming nonsense, but the real kicker is that this is your nonsense, not mine. This is your argument applied to everyone, not just Link. As soon as you realize this we can move on.
Assuming what?
I see so unlike the others Link is not innately superhuman? yet you think I should just assume he is? this is not fair, as you said you want consistensy in my argument and it is consistent. I have 3 guys with canon statements of being superhuman and I have Link with none....therefore link is the guy who is illegitimate.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Assuming what?I see so unlike the others Link is not innately superhuman? yet you think I should just assume he is? this is not fair, as you said you want consistensy in my argument and it is consistent. I have 3 guys with canon statements of being superhuman and I have Link with none....therefore link is the guy who is illegitimate.
You are assuming that Dante's being a demon is the reason for his superhuman abilities, when this was not stated. As you have said, without a reason for those abilities, it's toonforce.
No, I think if you're going to assume that the others are then you should assume Link is as well. If not, then you should not be assuming that the others are.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You are assuming that Dante's being a demon is the reason for his superhuman abilities, when this was not stated. As you have said, without a reason for those abilities, it's toonforce.No, I think if you're going to assume that the others are then you should assume Link is as well. If not, then you should not be assuming that the others are.
Dante being a demon is irrelevant for this side of the argument, the argument has two sides you see (maybe more) and both are reasons why Links feats are illegitimate especially in comparison to the 3 I champion. This part of the argument is that the fact he is canonically stated to be superhuman is all we need to make the exception that its possible he can lift things beyond his weight and normal durability and that his feats for such are belieivable. The fact he is a demon is the second half of the argument, whereby demons are known for a fact to be superior to humans by their feats, Vergil does similiar things to Dante for instance as do other demons.
Link has none of these arguments, his spiecies is not canonically known to be superior to humans and his developers have not named him superhuman. If only he had one of these arguments then he may be able to take our argument to the next step but he does not.
Why would I assume Link is superhuman without any canon supporting it? 🙄