Fully Geared Odin vs Galactus

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Show the scans of a blast "far less" than a celestial blast damaging a well-fed Galactus. And don't throw up that Thanos blast, you and I both know that didn't damage him whatsoever so that doesn't do anything to support your argument.

No, you are incorrect. Actually Galactus has fired 5 beams from his hand multiple times. That quantifies as a barrage in 1 volley.

Odin deflects blasts? Please, so does Galactus. Tell me why I should accept Odin deflecting blasts when you refuse to acknowledge Galactus does the same and dismiss it as CBR. Clearly, as you've repeatedly haven't addressed, the destroyer fought Nezzar the Calculator 1-on-1 for several panels before the rest of the host intervened. He even paused. Go ahead and claim that he was "worried" about the whole group when the scans clearly show Destroyer armor vs. Nezzar the Calculator with the armor having 0 effect whatsoever on Nezzar.

Your logic is atrocious. By your same logic, it's in character for the armor to get his sword caught in mid-swing. Now you will address Ziran blocking the destroyer mid-swing. Are you going to argue that because the armor felt the presence of several celestials behind him, he slowed his sword strike *just in case* he had to parry a blast from behind him? He slowed his sword strike *just in case* Ziran could block it? 😆

Galactus didn't let Thanos do anything. The two were conversing and Thanos up and blasted him suddenly. The whole situation ended up with Thanos on his ass with tattered clothes. Are the destroyer and Galactus talking in this situation? I thought they came for a fight.

When has the destroyer armor broken through shields of a cosmic being? When?????? Until then your just arguing smoke and mirrors and its quite evident you're just saying so because you have no recourse.

Arishem easily transmuted the sword. You're laughing that Galactus can't do the same? When arishem needs Exitar to blow up a world? When Galactus transmutes entire planets to pure energy? When Galactus restructures molecules of regular people? When Galactus can rearrange solar system-sized objects at a whim? When the silver surfer, who can synthesize the odin force, is but a fraction of G's power cosmic? when Galactus can perform molecular manip by converting an entire mystical pocket dimension into energy? And you're laughing he can't do it to an asgardian sword waving around? Damn dude.

The sword with the rhinegold curse is too much, yet arishem easily does it? The sword was transmuted, it took less than 1 second to analyze the sword. You're not escaping the fact the sword can be transmuted, and was, by Arishem, who is a lower level molecular manipulator than Galactus, just because he analyzed it for 1 second.

Yeah odin's attacks will propel galactus at a distance, doing absolutely no damage. Great. Unless you're arguing Thanos actually....damaged Galactus? Did he? I wasn't aware. So the Destroyer armor "rocks" Galactus, propels him a great distance, then uses Asgardian calisthenics to close the gap in 1 leap so he can use his sword? That's not in his character to turn into batman with a blade...stop acting like the construct is silver samurai. The beams propel Galactus at a distance, and the armor comes bum rushing trying to cut limbs off. Galactus teleports, as he has shown, and then has a world of options. THAT is in character.

Did you even see the T&A fight? Tenebrous was greatly damaged. That's more than the destroyer armor can claim for any of its opponents. Not to mention the fight was already in progress, while we saw the entirety of the trip to the celestial dome, the ensuing fight, and then the evacuating spirits of asgard. Galactus' attacks actually effected his opponents. The destroyer's...yeah nezzar replaced his arm. Fantastic. At least Galactus' enemies felt the effects of the fight...can't say the same for the destroyer.

It's still outweighed by the times he has shot one blast at a time.

I never said Galactus can't deflect blasts I said Odin's victory will come with his sword.

He was fired upon a few different times from different foes. This skews the entire fight say he took one on at a time. Sorry, but it does. Galactus was overwhelmed by two foes not an entire group.

No, it isn't bad at all. Odin then by your logic lops an arm or two off. Sorry, but at this point Galactus is screwed.

Galactus was going to attack him while Thanos looking right at him gave him fair warning. Galactus also sent foot soldiers to bide himself time to re engage Thanos. You are leaving out context.

It cut off Celestial limbs so unless you can prove Galactus' shields are greater than Celestial bodyparts it's a ridiculous stance you don't want to have in this thread.

Until he's done so I don't see him as being able to. Arishem has Exitar carry his judgment out and you saying he can't destroy a planet is the worst thing I have seen typed on a pc. I don't even think I can take you seriously if you think Arishem can't destroy a planet.

And? I've never seen Galactus easily transmute Thor's hammer so acting like he easily does it to the odinswrd is wishful thinking at best considering the power Odin has and the magic involved it's not an easy feat. It's an awesome feat for the Celestials I don't see Galactus replicating.

Odin can approach Galactus and deflect blasts and close the gap. Acting like Galactus turns into some sort of ninja is ridiculous.

Oh and mentioning the Surfer attempting to synthesize the odinforce when we've seen the odinforce oneshot the guy is too much,

Odin cut off limbs but they reformed and the group who spit on A and T. It's not even close.

Originally posted by Utrigita
The Destroyer was already immobilised/neutrilized in four to five shots from the Celestials you scans doesn't change that fact.

Second scan: Two Torso, one leg (they piece the armor at this point and it's the first energy based attack)

Doesn't from my point of view support you view that the Destroyer was attacked from all sides which only in one case is correct, when it got shot in the back.

Well right here shows you only see what you want.

All the 2nd time shows is poofs of smoke from the blast hitting destroyer nothing peiced it all the next scans show the destory un harmed until the blow to the back whcih finally pieces it

Too the destroyer is turning guarding it right side from 2 blast at one ppoint then gets hit in front and knocked down on the others i guess Odin likes to turn him back on who is fighting or he is getting attack from different angles.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
And this is not what happened att all. It is clear you

1 don't know what your talking about

2 didn't read the comic

3 just making up stuff to support

The next page of the comic the destroyer is fine the leg is not injuryed in any way.

It is not until the 3rd celestrial hits destroyer from the back is there anydamaged

Plus we see the sword block to direct contants his blast from 2 celetrials then the 3rd strikes.

This is where then the celestrial disarm destroyer and all 8 blast him and thats what causes t to blow up.

Like said the destroyer was able to go un injured battle 2 celeestrials and the sword while the destroyer was weilding is more then able to tank blast while destroyer weilds it.

1V1 the Odin destroyer could take one a single celestrial just like Big G they have be injuryed/killed from less and over all have better shwoing the Big G

Galactus also as his ifhgts his power level lower unlike the celestrial who are at a constant.

Would a the destroyer take a majority over Galactus or a celestrial NO

but could it take some wins yes and for you to say otherwise is just nonsense

It's said directly on panel that the Energy blasts from the Celestials initial attacks pierces the armor of the Destroyer.

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/?action=view&current=Thor_300-27.jpg

Fifth Panel, you also see metal pieces being blown off. So I'm not making anything up DarkOdin, disagree be my guest but don't accuse me of lying please, it also further says that those blasts forces the Destroyer to fight like a wounded beast. So you claiming that the destroyer was unaffected imo doesn't add up.

I haven't disagree on that the eight blasts from the 4th Host defeated it in a matter of seconds, I just fail to see the relevance because already before that it's clear that the destroyer was incapable of keep fighting.

Please try and remember exactly what I have said earlier, if that even can be asked atm, I said that I think Galactus would win after a long hard battle, I further mentioned that I don't like dealing with best out of ten, but work with a single fight only, that was my words.

Originally posted by Utrigita
It's said directly on panel that the Energy blasts from the Celestials initial attacks pierces the armor of the Destroyer.

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/?action=view&current=Thor_300-27.jpg

Fifth Panel, you also see metal pieces being blown off. So I'm not making anything up DarkOdin, disagree be my guest but don't accuse me of lying please, it also further says that those blasts forces the Destroyer to fight like a wounded beast. So you claiming that the destroyer was unaffected imo doesn't add up.

I haven't disagree on that the eight blasts from the 4th Host defeated it in a matter of seconds, I just fail to see the relevance because already before that it's clear that the destroyer was incapable of keep fighting.

Please try and remember exactly what I have said earlier, if that even can be asked atm, I said that I think Galactus would win after a long hard battle, I further mentioned that I don't like dealing with best out of ten, but work with a single fight only, that was my words.

And the next paghe we see no damaged to the destroyer until it gets hit in the back the damaged you claim is on the front of destoyer which we can't see then the next panel see see no damaged and all the following ones until it get hit in the back so what did it do it didn't do any damage that harmed the destroyer and again a barriage of blast mean a large number not 1 or 2 etc...

Then we see the destoryer take 2 hits to the back that knock it down no damage until it gets hit in the back so

Originally posted by DarkOdin
And the next paghe we see no damaged to the destroyer until it gets hit in the back the damaged you claim is on the front of destoyer which we can't see then the next panel see see no damaged and all the following ones until it get hit in the back so what did it do it didn't do any damage that harmed the destroyer and again a barriage of blast mean a large number not 1 or 2 etc...

Then we see the destoryer take 2 hits to the back that knock it down no damage until it gets hit in the back so

We obviously have quite different view on how statement shall we looked at and the durability of the Destroyer in itself. I will however mention once again, that we when the initial blasts are fired we see pieces of the destroyers armor being blown off. We also see damage to it's arm. I'm not quite sure I understand you line of reason here, you don't think that any shots to the front was capable of doing any damage to it, but you believe that one shot to the back was all it toke in order to immobilise the Destroyer, is that how I'm to understand you post? A Barrage can be a prolonged expose to the same spot from the same source even though you are only dealing with a single beam, A laser can barrage a cancer knot, without being turned on and off, it's the different strength in the laser that can qualify it as a barrage, atleast if I translate it into my language.

Two hits in the back? Where exactly do you see the second shot to the back?

Originally posted by Utrigita
We obviously have quite different view on how statement shall we looked at and the durability of the Destroyer in itself. I will however mention once again, that we when the initial blasts are fired we see pieces of the destroyers armor being blown off. We also see damage to it's arm. I'm not quite sure I understand you line of reason here, you don't think that any shots to the front was capable of doing any damage to it, but you believe that one shot to the back was all it toke in order to immobilise the Destroyer, is that how I'm to understand you post? A Barrage can be a prolonged expose to the same spot from the same source even though you are only dealing with a single beam, A laser can barrage a cancer knot, without being turned on and off, it's the different strength in the laser that can qualify it as a barrage, atleast if I translate it into my language.

Two hits in the back? Where exactly do you see the second shot to the back?

Ok let me start over

The destoryer when pieced as the narraction says by celestrials barriage meaning heavy fire. whe see peices come off but in the next panel in heavy damage is seen and destoryeris still fully able to fight.

know while the destroyer is fitting we see the sword being more then capable of bloacking to blast. then wehn the balst to the back occurs destroyer is taking two direct blast and then the 3rd from behind which is just too much to resist so it is damage but still able to fight.

know we see the destroyer finally getting taking out by all the celestrials which is what put it down.

Know what i am getting out is both Celestrial and galactus have been hurt/killed by beings less then destroyer

Dp tryant

reed richards tech

The destroyer shows that it is cable of fighting, injurying a celetrial grant teh celetrial grows back it arm but thy do have limits on how much damage they can take yes one sword hit or even 2 or 3 wouldn't do it but enough will same for galactus

So yes the destroyer is fully capable of taking oon a celestrial or Galactus on a forum fight not for a majority imo but for a few wins.

Destroyer is able to defend itself.

Do damage and has more firepower then others that have injured or kill a celestrial

it all so showed that it can take some hits

Did the threadstarter state that the Destroyer armor would have the power of all the Asgardians or something, somewhere in this thread?

Because reading the first post makes this the same Odin who fought Thor a little while back (although a long time in comic years). That Odin gets destroyed here...

Originally posted by Blanket
Did the threadstarter state that the Destroyer armor would have the power of all the Asgardians or something, somewhere in this thread?

Because reading the first post makes this the same Odin who fought Thor a little while back (although a long time in comic years). That Odin gets destroyed here...

Well i first thought it was the destoryer version b/c it would be a spite the other way OP never came back to confirm so.........

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Ok let me start over

The destoryer when pieced as the narraction says by celestrials barriage meaning heavy fire. whe see peices come off but in the next panel in heavy damage is seen and destoryeris still fully able to fight.

know while the destroyer is fitting we see the sword being more then capable of bloacking to blast. then wehn the balst to the back occurs destroyer is taking two direct blast and then the 3rd from behind which is just too much to resist so it is damage but still able to fight.

know we see the destroyer finally getting taking out by all the celestrials which is what put it down.

Know what i am getting out is both Celestrial and galactus have been hurt/killed by beings less then destroyer

Dp tryant

reed richards tech

The destroyer shows that it is cable of fighting, injurying a celetrial grant teh celetrial grows back it arm but thy do have limits on how much damage they can take yes one sword hit or even 2 or 3 wouldn't do it but enough will same for galactus

So yes the destroyer is fully capable of taking oon a celestrial or Galactus on a forum fight not for a majority imo but for a few wins.

Destroyer is able to defend itself.

Do damage and has more firepower then others that have injured or kill a celestrial

it all so showed that it can take some hits

Fair enough no matter dweeling on the subject any further then imho, since we are in agreement, some details are still open on the Celestial case, but it's from my point of view just our different views on the scans that causes that.

I would also like to point out that me mentioning how many Blasts the Destroyer from my point of view toke, wasn't a observation I did to lower the Destroyers possibility of winning, I more wished to question, what I felt was the assured view that nothing but the combined fourth Celestial Host (when they slagged it in the end) did any kind of damage to the Destroyer which from my point of view is a wrong observation based on the material infront of us.

And Blanket I agree entirely.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Fair enough no matter dweeling on the subject any further then imho, since we are in agreement, some details are still open on the Celestial case, but it's from my point of view just our different views on the scans that causes that.

I would also like to point out that me mentioning how many Blasts the Destroyer from my point of view toke, wasn't a observation I did to lower the Destroyers possibility of winning, I more wished to question, what I felt was the assured view that nothing but the combined fourth Celestial Host (when they slagged it in the end) did any kind of damage to the Destroyer which from my point of view is a wrong observation based on the material infront of us.

And Blanket I agree entirely.

Cool with me just a different views like you said .

"I more wished to question, what I felt was the assured view that nothing but the combined fourth Celestial Host (when they slagged it in the end) did any kind of damage to the Destroyer"

As for this maybe someone was over pushing the issue .........."looks around for Quan"

Originally posted by quanchi112
It definitely affected him. I'd say a destroyer blast with an amped Odin definitely leaves a nasty mark.

It's still outweighed by the times he has shot one blast at a time.

I never said Galactus can't deflect blasts I said Odin's victory will come with his sword.

He was fired upon a few different times from different foes. This skews the entire fight say he took one on at a time. Sorry, but it does. Galactus was overwhelmed by two foes not an entire group.

No, it isn't bad at all. Odin then by your logic lops an arm or two off. Sorry, but at this point Galactus is screwed.

Galactus was going to attack him while Thanos looking right at him gave him fair warning. Galactus also sent foot soldiers to bide himself time to re engage Thanos. You are leaving out context.

It cut off Celestial limbs so unless you can prove Galactus' shields are greater than Celestial bodyparts it's a ridiculous stance you don't want to have in this thread.

Until he's done so I don't see him as being able to. Arishem has Exitar carry his judgment out and you saying he can't destroy a planet is the worst thing I have seen typed on a pc. I don't even think I can take you seriously if you think Arishem can't destroy a planet.

And? I've never seen Galactus easily transmute Thor's hammer so acting like he easily does it to the odinswrd is wishful thinking at best considering the power Odin has and the magic involved it's not an easy feat. It's an awesome feat for the Celestials I don't see Galactus replicating.

Odin can approach Galactus and deflect blasts and close the gap. Acting like Galactus turns into some sort of ninja is ridiculous.

Oh and mentioning the Surfer attempting to synthesize the odinforce when we've seen the odinforce oneshot the guy is too much,

Odin cut off limbs but they reformed and the group who spit on A and T. It's not even close.

You've fallen quite far in this debate since you show no support for your position. I accept your implied concession.

It doesn't matter. It's in his character to shoot 5 beams from 1 hand. The fact that he does one more frequently than the other has no relevance, as he's shown the will to do it to someone as insignificant to the SS and as spread out as an entire space armada. You have no defense for this point and indeed have provided none. Not to mention Galactus frequently uses eye beams...that's 2 blasts. The best rebuttal you can come up with is that it's outweighed by the times he fires with one hand? Like the way xavier simply talking outweighs the number of times he uses TP? Pathetic.

Yes Odin's victory will come with his sword. Which can and will be transmuted. The only defense you have is insisting that he'll use the sword to cut off Galactus' limbs. No counter to viable tactics, that's the crux of your argument. Galactus transmutes the sword, to a much easier degree than arishem does. Where's your rebuttal to that? None.

Galactus isn't screwed at all. I absolutely want to take the stance that Galactus' shields hold up. It will only work to further undermine your own position: I don't have to prove Galactus' shields are stronger than Celestial armor when Galactus' shields have withstood far more than any single celestial has. Or will you actually provide proof and show a celestial being attacked by someone on Galactus' level and having their armor hold up to the fact? The burden of proof is on YOU, since you're trying to prove a negative. You have no argument and defense here. The best you can show is the Odinsword cutting off nezzar's arm.

Galactus sent the punishers so Thanos wouldn't run away. Are you implying that Galactus needs to employ such tactics to prevent the Destroyer from running away? It looks like you are.

It's well within Galactus' capability to transmute the sword. Because your simplistic logic has now stated that transmuting Mephisto's realm into energy is much easier than transmuting the Odinsword. Amazing......just......amazing.

Galactus isn't the one that needs to become a ninja here. The destroyer does. Are you going to create Destroyer vs. iron fist threads? The destroyer is basically a brick coming at Galactus. LOL at the notion that Galactus stands there like a statue while the Destroyer adopts that ninjitsu you keep bringing up...i see why you haven't dropped it...it's the only way for you to have a any semblance of an argument.

I've let you run with your comparisons between the 4th host and T&A for sometime. Nowhere did I expose the sheer incompetence of that argument until now, since you insist on comparing opponents.

It's clear that by your argument you insist Destroyer is > than the I-B, is > than FP Tyrant, is great than Hyperstorm, Uatu, and a host of other cosmic level beings. After all, the Destroyer armor is has what it takes to take on Galactus and win...something none of the above have enjoyed. If you're going to insist on comparisons...so you insist the Destroyer armor with Odin, whose attacks were useless against Nezzar the Calculator, can do what FP Tyrant could not? Gotcha.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
You've fallen quite far in this debate since you show no support for your position. I accept your implied concession.

It doesn't matter. It's in his character to shoot 5 beams from 1 hand. The fact that he does one more frequently than the other has no relevance, as he's shown the will to do it to someone as insignificant to the SS and as spread out as an entire space armada. You have no defense for this point and indeed have provided none. Not to mention Galactus frequently uses eye beams...that's 2 blasts. The best rebuttal you can come up with is that it's outweighed by the times he fires with one hand? Like the way xavier simply talking outweighs the number of times he uses TP? Pathetic.

Yes Odin's victory will come with his sword. Which can and will be transmuted. The only defense you have is insisting that he'll use the sword to cut off Galactus' limbs. No counter to viable tactics, that's the crux of your argument. Galactus transmutes the sword, to a much easier degree than arishem does. Where's your rebuttal to that? None.

Galactus isn't screwed at all. I absolutely want to take the stance that Galactus' shields hold up. It will only work to further undermine your own position: I don't have to prove Galactus' shields are stronger than Celestial armor when Galactus' shields have withstood far more than any single celestial has. Or will you actually provide proof and show a celestial being attacked by someone on Galactus' level and having their armor hold up to the fact? The burden of proof is on YOU, since you're trying to prove a negative. You have no argument and defense here. The best you can show is the Odinsword cutting off nezzar's arm.

Galactus sent the punishers so Thanos wouldn't run away. Are you implying that Galactus needs to employ such tactics to prevent the Destroyer from running away? It looks like you are.

It's well within Galactus' capability to transmute the sword. Because your simplistic logic has now stated that transmuting Mephisto's realm into energy is much easier than transmuting the Odinsword. Amazing......just......amazing.

Galactus isn't the one that needs to become a ninja here. The destroyer does. Are you going to create Destroyer vs. iron fist threads? The destroyer is basically a brick coming at Galactus. LOL at the notion that Galactus stands there like a statue while the Destroyer adopts that ninjitsu you keep bringing up...i see why you haven't dropped it...it's the only way for you to have a any semblance of an argument.

I've let you run with your comparisons between the 4th host and T&A for sometime. Nowhere did I expose the sheer incompetence of that argument until now, since you insist on comparing opponents.

It's clear that by your argument you insist Destroyer is > than the I-B, is > than FP Tyrant, is great than Hyperstorm, Uatu, and a host of other cosmic level beings. After all, the Destroyer armor is has what it takes to take on Galactus and win...something none of the above have enjoyed. If you're going to insist on comparisons...so you insist the Destroyer armor with Odin, whose attacks were useless against Nezzar the Calculator, can do what FP Tyrant could not? Gotcha.

Not the majority of the time. I bet he's fired multiple beams less than 10 percent of the times he has fired energy beams yet you justify this as the reasoning for how he wins a majority here.

Two blasts Odin can handle. What he can't handle is multiple more powerful opponents bucking him from multiple sides not just one opponent.

The needed to analyze it first. Galactus doesn't have this luxury nor did you prove he could do so when we've seen Thor oppose him multiple times and he's never transmuted Thor's hammer. wishful thinking on your part yet again.

What have the shields withstood that blows the Celestials out of the water? The godblast ran Galactus off like a scared woman yet a celestial let Thor blast him and undid everything he did like it was nothing. That's a direct comparison.

Absorbing meph's realm isn't the same thing as transmuting Odin's sword. Thor's defeated Galactus before and he never once transmuted his hammer so your logic and abc examples fall short.

Like Thanos couldn't have left. Are you serious? Thanos could have teleported away at any point. Galactus walks away from him saying he's beneath his contempt. Thanos wasn't going anywhere and Galactus needed to distract him to close the gap on him. That much is very apparent.

Never happened to Thor's hammer. Odinsword is greater than Thor's hammer.

I never said he would, but he didn't fare so well against Thanos or tenebrous and Aegis when they wanted to attack him.

Those characters you have named I'd favor Odin/destroyer over most of them all but that's for another thread.

btw dint the odinsword go thru celestial forcefield or somethin? if so it coud go thru big G shield also

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
btw dint the odinsword go thru celestial forcefield or somethin? if so it coud go thru big G shield also

Why is it that the Destroyer supporters assume, offhand, that any and every celestial is somehow demonstrably stronger than Galactus, no matter his condition. There haven't been any on-panel confrontations between the two, so why does that forcefield argument hold water?

Originally posted by brownqk
Why is it that the Destroyer supporters assume, offhand, that any and every celestial is somehow demonstrably stronger than Galactus, no matter his condition. There haven't been any on-panel confrontations between the two, so why does that forcefield argument hold water?

o yeah btw celestials can warp reality (cos stated onpanel: their > cubes)
Galactus cant (unless u can prove it 😄)

Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus would kill any celestial one on one.
Whether it's Exitar or Arishem or Tiamut, they all go down to the devourer of worlds.

ROFL get lost your retard.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
it hold water cuz the FF wasnt around *one* celestial it was around their base or somethin. so basicly its ALL the celestials 😈

o yeah btw celestials can warp reality (cos stated onpanel: their > cubes)
Galactus cant (unless u can prove it 😄)

Also, Doom was warping reality with his powers iirc.

Originally posted by Mindset
Galactus is > cubes

Also, Doom was warping reality with his powers iirc.

This.

Originally posted by brownqk
Why is it that the Destroyer supporters assume, offhand, that any and every celestial is somehow demonstrably stronger than Galactus, no matter his condition. There haven't been any on-panel confrontations between the two, so why does that forcefield argument hold water?

Galactus has been defeated by Odin's own son before. Weakened or not Thor's power pales in comparison to Odin's let alone Odin from issue 300.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He took on the entire fourth host and was defeated so handily because of their abilities and the fact there was a large group of them opposing him.

Galactus has been defeated by Odin's own son before. Weakened or not Thor's power pales in comparison to Odin's let alone Odin from issue 300.

And where did you read from the threadstarter that this was Odin Destroyer from Thor 300? For curiousity's sake.

Also, you seem to be implying that Odin could defeat Galactus.