Fully Geared Odin vs Galactus

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Originally posted by Utrigita
The Destroyer was already immobilised/neutrilized in four to five shots from the Celestials you scans doesn't change that fact.

First scan: No hit at all.
Second scan: Two Torso, one leg (they piece the armor at this point and it's the first energy based attack)
Third Scan: Two Deflected, One back, One Torso and one hand(?)
Fourth Scan: After Three direct shots to the torso and one to the back the Destroyer is down. And the combined Celestial Assault in seconds destroys it.

Doesn't from my point of view support you view that the Destroyer was attacked from all sides which only in one case is correct, when it got shot in the back.

He was being hit byu multiple foes the entire time. You acting like this showing is anything but impressive when facing overwhelming odds isn't fair.

Three blasts from more powerful adversaries and a group large enough where he couldn't focus his attacks.

Third scan proves he can deflect Galactus attacks.

After all these attacks it still took five shots from all sides to defeat Odin. Yeah, galactus is going down here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was being hit byu multiple foes the entire time. You acting like this showing is anything but impressive when facing overwhelming odds isn't fair.

Three blasts from more powerful adversaries and a group large enough where he couldn't focus his attacks.

Third scan proves he can deflect Galactus attacks.

After all these attacks it still took five shots from all sides to defeat Odin. Yeah, galactus is going down here.

And from what on the scans do you base this?

His attacks that beside the Odinsword did no kind of damage to the Celestials? Yes that is sure to work. Also note that the Celestials got hit once by the sword and that is it.

Did I say he couldn't? Nope, did I see it as relevant not really, since Galactus can fire 3-4 energy Blasts at the same time towards different bodyparts that the sword can't cover at the same time.

It toke 13 shots to destroy it utterly and you are again forgetting that already before the Destroyer was reduced to slag it would in a forum match have lost because it was incapable of continuing fighting, it's simple really.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not correct.

The scene where two Celestial Energy Beams hits the Destroyer it stats that:

"The mammoth warrior is buffeted by a celestial Barrage which pierces his allegedly indestructible amor" Those are the words use iirc. And every single energy attack used by the Celestials in the end pierced through the armor.

nope 1st blast pirces it but look next panel, next blast (the pink one) bounce of so it dint do damage

btw they say "barage" wich means multiple blasts right? 🤨

also eveyrone should know that not only odin but ALL the skyfathers had there power in the destroyer armor....

Galactus gives Odin the pimp-hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus takes attacks as does Odin. It's give and take. Galactus sin't going the way of cbr for this fight. You have a habit of debating in the manner of cbr for him.

Together they were more than he could handle. 4th host of celestials>Tenebrous and Aegis.

Odin still had to deal with the group. He wasn't just worrying about one character he felt the presence of the entire group and was defeated by them.

Again, the only reason I brought it up was because you wanted to turn Odin into a planet destroyer for the purposes of this debate and argue based on these statements. That's faulty logic and has no bearing here.

The point is we have seen Odin get beaten by a force which makes the T and A force look meek in comparison. Galactus was laid low by them and will be laid low by Odin here.

He's powerful enough to combat galactus and has all the asgardians save Thor added to his own in the destroyer armor.

In character Galactus is going to try to slag tthe destroyer but I see his limbs being taken off in the meantime.

Galactus blocks beams and dogest attacks. He landed more hits on the I-B in hand-to-hand combat. You act like the destroyer has the upper hand when it has to close the distance and get through Galactus' shields. Go ahead and claim that's not how Galactus' fights I'll throw up a bunch of scans that show him using shields to block attacks, dodging physical blows, and so forth. I mean Ziran even grabs the destroyer's arm in mid-swing yet miraculously you're going to insist that Galactus can't do the same LOL.

Yes Odin felt the presence of the entire group as he ran and chopped off nezzar's arm. Odin felt the presence of the entire group as nezzar regrew his arm, and the destroyer PAUSES to contemplate his next move. And yes, that is the actual word used in the fight. The destroyer PAUSES and the entire 4th Celestial Host is politely waiting for him to figure out what to do next. He then uses the disintegration beam to no effect. Odin certainly felt the whole group staring at him waiting for him to make up his mind about what to do. His attacks were futile on 1 celestial and after that they put the beat down on him.

Your whole argument rests precariously on the multiple assumptions that Galactus will let the destroyer close the distance and that the sword wont be transmuted. Galactus takes attacks but he takes attacks from beings like Thor and other characters that pose no threat to him. Don't act like it's in his character to stand like a rock while a powerful opponent is rushing towards him flailing a sword. That's laughable and i challenge you to show an instance where he stands there waiting for someone higher than herald level to bum-rush him.

Galactus can tank any disintegration beam the destroyer throws. That leaves the sword as the only option. You then have no defense for Galactus performing molecular manip on the sword other than the Destroyer pulls some kung fu and gets from point A to point B with a single step. The armor's attacks failed against Nezzar the Calculator. I repeat, Nezzar the Calculator. That's hardly a top tier celestial and this is a well-fed Galactus.

There's nothing that the destroyer can do in terms of ranged attacks to someone on Galactus' level, that's already been shown on-panel in thor #300. It's up to you to prove that he can, because you're refuting what was shown on-panel. And the sword can be transmuted, which was also shown on-panel. Unless you can show me an instance of someone coming at Galactus with a weapon and he stands there like a statue and allows them to use it, that option quickly fades as well.

Galactus wins.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
hm maybe u gotta point

but this a robot not a planet. u think he got alot out of it? thats like an elephant eating 1 peanut lol

he would wanna show of BECAUSE their insects: show them how their weak. i mean if he crush Ultrons armor or vaporize it with a blast that be one of the best power showin ever

Sooo, how many times exactly have you shown off a bag of peanuts before you tossed em in your mouth?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
nope 1st blast pirces it but look next panel, next blast (the pink one) bounce of so it dint do damage

btw they say "barage" wich means multiple blasts right? 🤨

http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/?action=view&current=Thor_300-27.jpg

If this is the scan you are refering to, I must admit that I can't see anything bouncing off the Destroyer. The Pink Blast hits the Leg, that is hardly bounce off.

In conflict with what is shown on panel where it was actually two hits nothing more, ofcause two hits can Also be a Barrage if they are channeled constantly from the Celestials. But as I have stated earlier, based on the on panel fight 4-5 blasts is enough to down the Destroyer making it incapable of continued fighting, as also mentioned it could have been 8-10 instead if we assume and go Off Panel.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Sooo, how many times exactly have you shown off a bag of peanuts before you tossed em in your mouth?
yet "big g" did it w/ 1 peanut 💃

Originally posted by Utrigita
http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/?action=view&current=Thor_300-27.jpg

If this is the scan you are refering to, I must admit that I can't see anything bouncing off the Destroyer. The Pink Blast hits the Leg, that is hardly bounce off.

yeah thats the one
k so it dont bounce of but it dont go thru either

Originally posted by Utrigita
http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/?action=view&current=Thor_300-27.jpg

If this is the scan you are refering to, I must admit that I can't see anything bouncing off the Destroyer. The Pink Blast hits the Leg, that is hardly bounce off.

And this is not what happened att all. It is clear you

1 don't know what your talking about

2 didn't read the comic

3 just making up stuff to support

The next page of the comic the destroyer is fine the leg is not injuryed in any way.

It is not until the 3rd celestrial hits destroyer from the back is there anydamaged

Plus we see the sword block to direct contants his blast from 2 celetrials then the 3rd strikes.

This is where then the celestrial disarm destroyer and all 8 blast him and thats what causes t to blow up.

Like said the destroyer was able to go un injured battle 2 celeestrials and the sword while the destroyer was weilding is more then able to tank blast while destroyer weilds it.

1V1 the Odin destroyer could take one a single celestrial just like Big G they have be injuryed/killed from less and over all have better shwoing the Big G

Galactus also as his ifhgts his power level lower unlike the celestrial who are at a constant.

Would a the destroyer take a majority over Galactus or a celestrial NO

but could it take some wins yes and for you to say otherwise is just nonsense

Thor #300 destroyer couldn't even injure a celestial much less defeat one. He chopped off an arm but it had basically no effect. The whole fight seemed like 7 or 8 scientists watching an angry lab rat then putting it down when it got out of control.

Originally posted by Uatu76

He chopped off an arm but it had basically no effect.

uh yeah it did, the arm got chopped of 😈

Originally posted by Utrigita
And from what on the scans do you base this?

His attacks that beside the Odinsword did no kind of damage to the Celestials? Yes that is sure to work. Also note that the Celestials got hit once by the sword and that is it.

Did I say he couldn't? Nope, did I see it as relevant not really, since Galactus can fire 3-4 energy Blasts at the same time towards different bodyparts that the sword can't cover at the same time.

It toke 13 shots to destroy it utterly and you are again forgetting that already before the Destroyer was reduced to slag it would in a forum match have lost because it was incapable of continuing fighting, it's simple really.

The scans themselves. He won't be fired upon from multiple directions while taking on a group. It's one on one here.

Ok, so he uses the sword. The blasts would also damage Galactus moreso than a Celestial as we have seen far less effect Galactus.

He didn't just bring the sword for show he actually used it.

Now, you're throwing a cbr spin on Galactus. It's in character for him to blast once and for him to be hit in return. This Galactus who dodges attacks, while firing multiple blasts, while reforming really doesn't exist.

Again, Odin can deflect blasts and cut limbs off. I think Odin wins the majority here. Clearly.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Galactus blocks beams and dogest attacks. He landed more hits on the I-B in hand-to-hand combat. You act like the destroyer has the upper hand when it has to close the distance and get through Galactus' shields. Go ahead and claim that's not how Galactus' fights I'll throw up a bunch of scans that show him using shields to block attacks, dodging physical blows, and so forth. I mean Ziran even grabs the destroyer's arm in mid-swing yet miraculously you're going to insist that Galactus can't do the same LOL.

Yes Odin felt the presence of the entire group as he ran and chopped off nezzar's arm. Odin felt the presence of the entire group as nezzar regrew his arm, and the destroyer [b]PAUSES to contemplate his next move. And yes, that is the actual word used in the fight. The destroyer PAUSES and the entire 4th Celestial Host is politely waiting for him to figure out what to do next. He then uses the disintegration beam to no effect. Odin certainly felt the whole group staring at him waiting for him to make up his mind about what to do. His attacks were futile on 1 celestial and after that they put the beat down on him.

Your whole argument rests precariously on the multiple assumptions that Galactus will let the destroyer close the distance and that the sword wont be transmuted. Galactus takes attacks but he takes attacks from beings like Thor and other characters that pose no threat to him. Don't act like it's in his character to stand like a rock while a powerful opponent is rushing towards him flailing a sword. That's laughable and i challenge you to show an instance where he stands there waiting for someone higher than herald level to bum-rush him.

Galactus can tank any disintegration beam the destroyer throws. That leaves the sword as the only option. You then have no defense for Galactus performing molecular manip on the sword other than the Destroyer pulls some kung fu and gets from point A to point B with a single step. The armor's attacks failed against Nezzar the Calculator. I repeat, Nezzar the Calculator. That's hardly a top tier celestial and this is a well-fed Galactus.

There's nothing that the destroyer can do in terms of ranged attacks to someone on Galactus' level, that's already been shown on-panel in thor #300. It's up to you to prove that he can, because you're refuting what was shown on-panel. And the sword can be transmuted, which was also shown on-panel. Unless you can show me an instance of someone coming at Galactus with a weapon and he stands there like a statue and allows them to use it, that option quickly fades as well.

Galactus wins. [/B]

Odin was also being attacked by a larger group so he couldn't just focus on one attacker.

Bring on the scans. I definitely see Odin here busting through his shields and in no time. I see him blocking Galactus blasts and cutting limbs off.

They were futile because they could regrow body parts he was hacking off. Of course Odin was unsure of what to do next considering what he was up against. He was up against an entire group of more powerful foes who can regenerate at will.

This isn't the case here against Galactus. He's just against one threat. He doesn't have to worry about blasts coming from multiple angles while fighting someone else.

Galactus let Thanos attack him. Whether he lets odin get the first move or not it's entirely irrelevant as Odin will counter. LOL at Galactus easily transmuting the odinsword of all things.

Uhm, Odin's attacks will rock Galactus. Acting like he won't be rocked is ignoring the fact Thanos sent the guy quite a distance with one blast.

Again claiming Galactus is capable of something the celestials only did after analyzing is speculation at best.

Odin wins the clear majority. Galactus was dealt with by T and A while Odin looked more impressive imo against a much larger more powerful group than Galactus did against two beings.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The scans themselves. He won't be fired upon from multiple directions while taking on a group. It's one on one here.

Ok, so he uses the sword. The blasts would also damage Galactus moreso than a Celestial as we have seen far less effect Galactus.

He didn't just bring the sword for show he actually used it.

Now, you're throwing a cbr spin on Galactus. It's in character for him to blast once and for him to be hit in return. This Galactus who dodges attacks, while firing multiple blasts, while reforming really doesn't exist.

Again, Odin can deflect blasts and cut limbs off. I think Odin wins the majority here. Clearly. Odin was also being attacked by a larger group so he couldn't just focus on one attacker.

Bring on the scans. I definitely see Odin here busting through his shields and in no time. I see him blocking Galactus blasts and cutting limbs off.

They were futile because they could regrow body parts he was hacking off. Of course Odin was unsure of what to do next considering what he was up against. He was up against an entire group of more powerful foes who can regenerate at will.

This isn't the case here against Galactus. He's just against one threat. He doesn't have to worry about blasts coming from multiple angles while fighting someone else.

Galactus let Thanos attack him. Whether he lets odin get the first move or not it's entirely irrelevant as Odin will counter. LOL at Galactus easily transmuting the odinsword of all things.

Uhm, Odin's attacks will rock Galactus. Acting like he won't be rocked is ignoring the fact Thanos sent the guy quite a distance with one blast.

Again claiming Galactus is capable of something the celestials only did after analyzing is speculation at best.

Odin wins the clear majority. Galactus was dealt with by T and A while Odin looked more impressive imo against a much larger more powerful group than Galactus did against two beings.

Show the scans of a blast "far less" than a celestial blast damaging a well-fed Galactus. And don't throw up that Thanos blast, you and I both know that didn't damage him whatsoever so that doesn't do anything to support your argument.

No, you are incorrect. Actually Galactus has fired 5 beams from his hand multiple times. That quantifies as a barrage in 1 volley.

Odin deflects blasts? Please, so does Galactus. Tell me why I should accept Odin deflecting blasts when you refuse to acknowledge Galactus does the same and dismiss it as CBR. Clearly, as you've repeatedly haven't addressed, the destroyer fought Nezzar the Calculator 1-on-1 for several panels before the rest of the host intervened. He even paused. Go ahead and claim that he was "worried" about the whole group when the scans clearly show Destroyer armor vs. Nezzar the Calculator with the armor having 0 effect whatsoever on Nezzar.

Your logic is atrocious. By your same logic, it's in character for the armor to get his sword caught in mid-swing. Now you will address Ziran blocking the destroyer mid-swing. Are you going to argue that because the armor felt the presence of several celestials behind him, he slowed his sword strike *just in case* he had to parry a blast from behind him? He slowed his sword strike *just in case* Ziran could block it? 😆

Galactus didn't let Thanos do anything. The two were conversing and Thanos up and blasted him suddenly. The whole situation ended up with Thanos on his ass with tattered clothes. Are the destroyer and Galactus talking in this situation? I thought they came for a fight.

When has the destroyer armor broken through shields of a cosmic being? When?????? Until then your just arguing smoke and mirrors and its quite evident you're just saying so because you have no recourse.

Arishem easily transmuted the sword. You're laughing that Galactus can't do the same? When arishem needs Exitar to blow up a world? When Galactus transmutes entire planets to pure energy? When Galactus restructures molecules of regular people? When Galactus can rearrange solar system-sized objects at a whim? When the silver surfer, who can synthesize the odin force, is but a fraction of G's power cosmic? when Galactus can perform molecular manip by converting an entire mystical pocket dimension into energy? And you're laughing he can't do it to an asgardian sword waving around? Damn dude.

The sword with the rhinegold curse is too much, yet arishem easily does it? The sword was transmuted, it took less than 1 second to analyze the sword. You're not escaping the fact the sword can be transmuted, and was, by Arishem, who is a lower level molecular manipulator than Galactus, just because he analyzed it for 1 second.

Yeah odin's attacks will propel galactus at a distance, doing absolutely no damage. Great. Unless you're arguing Thanos actually....damaged Galactus? Did he? I wasn't aware. So the Destroyer armor "rocks" Galactus, propels him a great distance, then uses Asgardian calisthenics to close the gap in 1 leap so he can use his sword? That's not in his character to turn into batman with a blade...stop acting like the construct is silver samurai. The beams propel Galactus at a distance, and the armor comes bum rushing trying to cut limbs off. Galactus teleports, as he has shown, and then has a world of options. THAT is in character.

Did you even see the T&A fight? Tenebrous was greatly damaged. That's more than the destroyer armor can claim for any of its opponents. Not to mention the fight was already in progress, while we saw the entirety of the trip to the celestial dome, the ensuing fight, and then the evacuating spirits of asgard. Galactus' attacks actually effected his opponents. The destroyer's...yeah nezzar replaced his arm. Fantastic. At least Galactus' enemies felt the effects of the fight...can't say the same for the destroyer.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Show the scans of a blast "far less" than a celestial blast damaging a well-fed Galactus. And don't throw up that Thanos blast, you and I both know that didn't damage him whatsoever so that doesn't do anything to support your argument.

No, you are incorrect. Actually Galactus has fired 5 beams from his hand multiple times. That quantifies as a barrage in 1 volley.

Odin deflects blasts? Please, so does Galactus. Tell me why I should accept Odin deflecting blasts when you refuse to acknowledge Galactus does the same and dismiss it as CBR. Clearly, as you've repeatedly haven't addressed, the destroyer fought Nezzar the Calculator 1-on-1 for several panels before the rest of the host intervened. He even paused. Go ahead and claim that he was "worried" about the whole group when the scans clearly show Destroyer armor vs. Nezzar the Calculator with the armor having 0 effect whatsoever on Nezzar.

Your logic is atrocious. By your same logic, it's in character for the armor to get his sword caught in mid-swing. Now you will address Ziran blocking the destroyer mid-swing. Are you going to argue that because the armor felt the presence of several celestials behind him, he slowed his sword strike *just in case* he had to parry a blast from behind him? He slowed his sword strike *just in case* Ziran could block it? 😆

Galactus didn't let Thanos do anything. The two were conversing and Thanos up and blasted him suddenly. The whole situation ended up with Thanos on his ass with tattered clothes. Are the destroyer and Galactus talking in this situation? I thought they came for a fight.

When has the destroyer armor broken through shields of a cosmic being? When?????? Until then your just arguing smoke and mirrors and its quite evident you're just saying so because you have no recourse.

Arishem easily transmuted the sword. You're laughing that Galactus can't do the same? When arishem needs Exitar to blow up a world? When Galactus transmutes entire planets to pure energy? When Galactus restructures molecules of regular people? When Galactus can rearrange solar system-sized objects at a whim? When the silver surfer, who can synthesize the odin force, is but a fraction of G's power cosmic? when Galactus can perform molecular manip by converting an entire mystical pocket dimension into energy? And you're laughing he can't do it to an asgardian sword waving around? Damn dude.

The sword with the rhinegold curse is too much, yet arishem easily does it? The sword was transmuted, it took less than 1 second to analyze the sword. You're not escaping the fact the sword can be transmuted, and was, by Arishem, who is a lower level molecular manipulator than Galactus, just because he analyzed it for 1 second.

Yeah odin's attacks will propel galactus at a distance, doing absolutely no damage. Great. Unless you're arguing Thanos actually....damaged Galactus? Did he? I wasn't aware. So the Destroyer armor "rocks" Galactus, propels him a great distance, then uses Asgardian calisthenics to close the gap in 1 leap so he can use his sword? That's not in his character to turn into batman with a blade...stop acting like the construct is silver samurai. The beams propel Galactus at a distance, and the armor comes bum rushing trying to cut limbs off. Galactus teleports, as he has shown, and then has a world of options. THAT is in character.

Did you even see the T&A fight? Tenebrous was greatly damaged. That's more than the destroyer armor can claim for any of its opponents. Not to mention the fight was already in progress, while we saw the entirety of the trip to the celestial dome, the ensuing fight, and then the evacuating spirits of asgard. Galactus' attacks actually effected his opponents. The destroyer's...yeah nezzar replaced his arm. Fantastic. At least Galactus' enemies felt the effects of the fight...can't say the same for the destroyer.

And Odin can match almost all of Galactus feats on his own telporting is also no problem gor Odin.

Base Odin can match up so must of galactus feats and this is Odin amped to a whole another level.

T/A the celestrial and Galactus are all on the same level is one stronger then the other yes agruments can be man.

However unless there you are saing galactus would fall to the Host of celestrials and so would T/A they have a huge number over both parties and are roughly equals.

The fact the Celestrials used there numbers on Odin was a huge factor in the battle.

galactus VS DP tyrant was a good showing.

Odin destroyer would be better

The whole sword argument is just plain stupid the sword never was in danger until after Odin's defeat in which the bond with the Odinforce and the asagrdians backing both the armor and sword was gone so of course they thrashed the sword.

Would the odin destroyer win majority over Galactus or a single celestrial NO

But would it be able to get some wins yes both Galactus and the celetrials have been injured or killed/ nearlly killed by less

So lets stop yanking on Galactus groin all ready

Originally posted by Uatu76
Thor #300 destroyer couldn't even injure a celestial much less defeat one. He chopped off an arm but it had basically no effect. The whole fight seemed like 7 or 8 scientists watching an angry lab rat then putting it down when it got out of control.

^^^This. It wouldn't have mattered if it were 1 Celestial, the result would've been the same.

As I said previously, it didn't take 8 Celestials to defeat Odin in the armor, that's just how many Odin decided to take on.

That's a good way of putting it.

Galactus wins here.

when the destroyer armor faced the celestials it wasnt just odin, all the skyfathers had there power in it.

galactus should be above celestials, and this fight it being only odin in the armor is nearly a curbstomp

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
when the destroyer armor faced the celestials it wasnt just odin,[b] all the skyfathers had there power in it.

galactus should be above celestials, and this fight it being only odin in the armor is nearly a curbstomp [/B]

Above most Celetials.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
^^^This. It wouldn't have mattered if it were 1 Celestial, the result would've been the same.

As I said previously, it didn't take 8 Celestials to defeat Odin in the armor, that's just how many Odin decided to take on.

Great breakdown ^^

Galactus for the win.