Fully Geared Odin vs Galactus

Originally posted by Utrigita
Lets see, Surfer blasts no damage at all, Tyrant blasts no damage at all, Thanos only enraged and very close up, Tenebrous and Aegis fired energy blasts. What you are forgetting Quanchi is that the majority of those examples utilizes energy blast against Galactus and that most of them have little effect and Galactus knows it. the Destroyers way of fighting isn't exactly with Energy Blasts but with it's sword. Now Galactus has shown that he can dodge the blasts from a distance so I'm confident that he won't be interested in getting hit by a sword (and the destroyer still have to get close) that he knows can cut of his limbs, because regeneration/reforming them while take away energy.

Yet the blow was said to be capable of breaking a planet iirc, so basically half of the damage that BRB's in theory should produce when hitting Galactus and it's still sufficiant, because either way it's still enough since the Destroyer never punched with more power then that which can destroy a planet and Galactus can take that.

He made him momentarily feel pain that was it. You feel pain momentarily pain too when a mosquito sting you.

Which in no way change the circumstances concerning the fight that the Destroyer had with the Celestial seeing as they was constantly (except maybe once) blasting him from the front, so he could see their attacks coming towards him, he also dodge one and deflected two others iirc, so while they had him surrounded they didn't use it against him.

Your example of comparing BrB's hammer shot to Odin inside the destroyer armor is so off I don't know where to begin. Odin's shown power capable of destroying galaxies, oneshotting the Surfer, etc. yet you compare him in the destroyer armor to a planet shattering strike by BrB.

Wow.

No, I feel a slight itch. galactus hadn't felt pain in a long time when Thor struck him. Big difference.

4th host of the Celestials are more powerful than Galactus and outnumber him. Odin has the power or the ability to sever G limbs. He's done for here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What?

Showings vary from writer to writer.

it's still a legitimate showing and I have provided other examples where he wasn't hungry.

My point is when Odin cuts him limbs are coming off.

Odin wins this thread.

Have you aside from that one incident seen Galactus needing technology in order to damage a foe of his own caliber in combat? Fairly simple question imo. I personally haven't.

True, however the majority of those low showings gets blown from here and to the moon when we enter a forum match.

I'm not questioning the legality of the showing, but rather how much it can actually be used anymore. Characters progress I'm not using the SS, Thor or Odin from 1967 when I gauge a fight because new showings have made the older showings well outdated. The Tyrant one? Yeah that is about it isn't it? And what amount of damage did Tyrants energy blast do? Yes correct nothing.

And again completely forgetting Infinity War 4 where Galactus reformed, not that I really care but just interesting that you keep forgetting it.

Not imo.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Have you aside from that one incident seen Galactus needing technology in order to damage a foe of his own caliber in combat? Fairly simple question imo. I personally haven't.

True, however the majority of those low showings gets blown from here and to the moon when we enter a forum match.

I'm not questioning the legality of the showing, but rather how much it can actually be used anymore. Characters progress I'm not using the SS, Thor or Odin from 1967 when I gauge a fight because new showings have made the older showings well outdated. The Tyrant one? Yeah that is about it isn't it? And what amount of damage did Tyrants energy blast do? Yes correct nothing.

And again completely forgetting Infinity War 4 where Galactus reformed, not that I really care but just interesting that you keep forgetting it.

Not imo.

Ok.

Tyrant isn't as powerful as Galactus so of course he was going to have to chip away at him.

When did he reform in issue 4? what am I forgetting?

You haven't given a good enough reason for why Galactus wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant scraped Galactus' face. he also didn't seem to know that tyrant could absorb the bse energy he used to power himself up for the fight.

Your example of comparing BrB's hammer shot to Odin inside the destroyer armor is so off I don't know where to begin. Odin's shown power capable of destroying galaxies, oneshotting the Surfer, etc. yet you compare him in the destroyer armor to a planet shattering strike by BrB.

Wow.

No, I feel a slight itch. galactus hadn't felt pain in a long time when Thor struck him. Big difference.

4th host of the Celestials are more powerful than Galactus and outnumber him. Odin has the power or the ability to sever G limbs. He's done for here.

Doesn't change that Tyrants own energy blasts did absolutely no form of prolonged Damage towards Galactus. And as previously mentioned based on how you perceive Galactus as a Physical or Semi Abstract, you either look at it as PIS or fact.

I'm not pulling that out of my hat, the Destroyer blows against a Celestial was said to destroy a planet. If you don't believe me, not my problem, read the scan.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6721/thor30028bf0.jpg

Yet he momentarily feels pain. Oxford kindly labels that as a Instant, which is basically nothing.

I'm not questioning whether or not the fourth Host combined power is above that of Galactus own unless certain rules are invoked. What you from my point of view have entirely failed to take into the equation concerning the battle so far is. 1: The destroyer needs to get close to begin his chopping. 2: The Celestials energy blasts was knocking him back 3: The Celestial basically used around 4-5 blast to bring down the Destroyer 4. Outnumbering played no real part since the Celestials didn't take advantage of it. 5: Galactus can (again) reform his entire body through Will alone, what exactly are you reason for constantly neglecting that?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not that I can recall. What's your point?

Ok.

Tyrant isn't as powerful as Galactus so of course he was going to have to chip away at him.

When did he reform in issue 4? what am I forgetting?

You haven't given a good enough reason for why Galactus wins.

My point is that we are either dealing with a character that was very badly defined, or my personal view, a very very very weak Galactus since he had to rely on that technology in order to attack.

Which is what I personally call, bad writing.

I don't recall the circumstances of him being destroyed, only Death arriving to true and halt Galactus from reforming which failed.

And you haven't given a single reason for the Destroyer to win beyond the chopping, which I honestly doesn't think is going to work. What do would you like to see in order for Galactus to win? Blasts at the same level as those of the Celestials? Can't give you any because the Celestials have never really used it on anything beside the Destroyer and each other so nothing to compare it too in 616.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Doesn't change that Tyrants own energy blasts did absolutely no form of prolonged Damage towards Galactus. And as previously mentioned based on how you perceive Galactus as a Physical or Semi Abstract, you either look at it as PIS or fact.

I'm not pulling that out of my hat, the Destroyer blows against a Celestial was said to destroy a planet. If you don't believe me, not my problem, read the scan.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6721/thor30028bf0.jpg

Yet he momentarily feels pain. Oxford kindly labels that as a Instant, which is basically nothing.

I'm not questioning whether or not the fourth Host combined power is above that of Galactus own unless certain rules are invoked. What you from my point of view have entirely failed to take into the equation concerning the battle so far is. 1: The destroyer needs to get close to begin his chopping. 2: The Celestials energy blasts was knocking him back 3: The Celestial basically used around 4-5 blast to bring down the Destroyer 4. Outnumbering played no real part since the Celestials didn't take advantage of it. 5: Galactus can (again) reform his entire body through Will alone, what exactly are you reason for constantly neglecting that?

Do you honestly think the amped destroyer's attacks were comparable to planet destroying attacks alone? Seriously?

I see no reason why/how Galactus could beat him before Odin can close the gap. I also see blasts from odin rocking Galactus as well.

Odin also managed to cleave a celestial and he was facing multiple opponents.

Celestials are more powerful than Galactus anyways.

Galactus didn't do so against tyrant, Thor, at the end of galactus the devourer, against T and A. you are trying to make him into some unstoappable juggernaut.

Odin wins based on his power,durability, his sword.

Originally posted by Utrigita
My point is that we are either dealing with a character that was very badly defined, or my personal view, a very very very weak Galactus since he had to rely on that technology in order to attack.

Which is what I personally call, bad writing.

I don't recall the circumstances of him being destroyed, only Death arriving to true and halt Galactus from reforming which failed.

And you haven't given a single reason for the Destroyer to win beyond the chopping, which I honestly doesn't think is going to work. What do would you like to see in order for Galactus to win? Blasts at the same level as those of the Celestials? Can't give you any because the Celestials have never really used it on anything beside the Destroyer and each other so nothing to compare it too in 616.

Of course you would you're a huge fan of Galactus.

So he didn't reform or he did?

You said it worked against the Celestials and would prove effective against Galactus. he's been hurt by far less.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I tend to look at it as fact.

Do you honestly think the amped destroyer's attacks were comparable to planet destroying attacks alone? Seriously?

I see no reason why/how Galactus could beat him before Odin can close the gap. I also see blasts from odin rocking Galactus as well.

Odin also managed to cleave a celestial and he was facing multiple opponents.

Celestials are more powerful than Galactus anyways.

Galactus didn't do so against tyrant, Thor, at the end of galactus the devourer, against T and A. you are trying to make him into some unstoappable juggernaut.

Odin wins based on his power,durability, his sword.

That is your opinion then.

That isn't my opinion that is what the scan clearly points out, if you are going to disagree with the scan simply because it furthers you own ends be my guest. Ultimately not my problem, because as things are we only have one incident with the full powered Destroyer from which to gauge it's power, and I'm not going to neglect what was shown in that encounter, concerning the destroyer, simply because you don't like it.

I didn't see a single blast from the Destroyer hitting a Celestial so can't be sure on how big a impact the blast will have on Galactus but, yes will probably rock him to, if he doesn't dodge it. Either way the greater the distance the greater problems for the Destroyer.

Because the opponent didn't move a single muscle but was just standing there looking at him, he didn't dodge or in any way tried to avoid the destroyers slash. Galactus imo will.

Again your opinion, I disagree.

Hardly, If I was trying to make him into that I would try much much harder have no worries, it would be something like a mental attack on the Destroyer while summoning in meteors to rain down apon the destroyer while blasting it with energy blasts while making black holes around it and sucking the lifeforce from the souls inside into him 😂 As I have mentioned already in this thread I see this battle as a bloody hard one for Galactus and the Destroyer I don't in any way see it to be as simple as a few slashes is what is going to determind the outcome of this fight.

Durability 4-5 attacks and it's down... power unknown, strength known and not pretty.

Originally posted by Utrigita
That is your opinion then.

That isn't my opinion that is what the scan clearly points out, if you are going to disagree with the scan simply because it furthers you own ends be my guest. Ultimately not my problem, because as things are we only have one incident with the full powered Destroyer from which to gauge it's power, and I'm not going to neglect what was shown in that encounter, concerning the destroyer, simply because you don't like it.

I didn't see a single blast from the Destroyer hitting a Celestial so can't be sure on how big a impact the blast will have on Galactus but, yes will probably rock him to, if he doesn't dodge it. Either way the greater the distance the greater problems for the Destroyer.

Because the opponent didn't move a single muscle but was just standing there looking at him, he didn't dodge or in any way tried to avoid the destroyers slash. Galactus imo will.

Again your opinion, I disagree.

Hardly, If I was trying to make him into that I would try much much harder have no worries, it would be something like a mental attack on the Destroyer while summoning in meteors to rain down apon the destroyer while blasting it with energy blasts while making black holes around it and sucking the lifeforce from the souls inside into him 😂 As I have mentioned already in this thread I see this battle as a bloody hard one for Galactus and the Destroyer I don't in any way see it to be as simple as a few slashes is what is going to determind the outcome of this fight.

Durability 4-5 attacks and it's down... power unknown, strength known and not pretty.

LOL at you even entertaining the thought of galactus dodging a blast.

Based on which showings? Back your case up with examples not wishful thinking.

It was put down by the Celestials whose power exceeds that of Galactus.

I see this as being brutal but the odinsword spelling disaster for Galactus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't that weak. You are exaggerating.

Of course you would you're a huge fan of Galactus.

So he didn't reform or he did?

You said it worked against the Celestials and would prove effective against Galactus. he's been hurt by far less.

As I mentioned that was a personal view of mine, which is the only logical way apart from the other one, why Galactus would rely on technology to fight his battle for him.

I consider myself a fan that knows when my Galactus will win easy, medium or hard or loss same way around, This battle I see Galactus winning after a hard fight. It's as simple as that.

He did reform.

Yes I did, now ask yourself how many times the Celestials was hit after they had seen the Odinsword in action, none. If Galactus knows (which I based on the basic rules on a versus would say he does) that the sword is going to cut of his limbs, he isn't going to stand there like the Celestial and let himself be struck by it, unless a recent showing portrays him as outright retarded, he will do his best to avoid or destroy it as quickly as possible but that is my opinion on the fight.

Originally posted by Utrigita
As I mentioned that was a personal view of mine, which is the only logical way apart from the other one, why Galactus would rely on technology to fight his battle for him.

I consider myself a fan that knows when my Galactus will win easy, medium or hard or loss same way around, This battle I see Galactus winning after a hard fight. It's as simple as that.

He did reform.

Yes I did, now ask yourself how many times the Celestials was hit after they had seen the Odinsword in action, none. If Galactus knows (which I based on the basic rules on a versus would say he does) that the sword is going to cut of his limbs, he isn't going to stand there like the Celestial and let himself be struck by it, unless a recent showing portrays him as outright retarded, he will do his best to avoid or destroy it as quickly as possible but that is my opinion on the fight.

Iyo which is off.

His entire body? What happened to the rest of the heroes who were with him?

Galactus doesn't have any knowledge about the odinsword and even if he does how does he avoid it?

Based on what? What is he doing to avoid these attacks?

Galactus would just destroy the galaxy and be done with it. This is like the Superman vs Thanos thread all over again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's common sense though. we have seen the writer of King Thor further expand he wasn't at galaxy busting levels but moreso a planet destroyer. Does this mean Gldiator can behead a desak powered destroyer?

LOL at you even entertaining the thought of galactus dodging a blast.

Based on which showings? Back your case up with examples not wishful thinking.

It was put down by the Celestials whose power exceeds that of Galactus.

I see this as being brutal but the odinsword spelling disaster for Galactus.

And the relevance of this information in regards to the combat concerning the Destroyer and the Celestials is?

It would be entertaining if he hadn't already dodged one.

Like you are doing atm Quanchi? Which part of it do you want proven the one dodge scene or more?

It was immobilised by 4-5 shoots Quanchi that was what it toke to down it. I can be large and say that Galactus maybe requires 8-10 to get it down and can then begin to hammer at it until it's dead, but it still don't change the fact that I honestly doesn't see the Destroyer getting close enough to do any real damage with it's sword before it's down.

I disagree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think he would either so I don't see this as changing anything.

Iyo which is off.

His entire body? What happened to the rest of the heroes who were with him?

Galactus doesn't have any knowledge about the odinsword and even if he does how does he avoid it?

Based on what? What is he doing to avoid these attacks?

What exactly don't you see it change his powerlevel (he was hungry we know that much) or the circumstances the scan represents?

According to your opinion.

He reformed them to.

So we should ignore forum rules then and also assume that the Cosmic awarness is hokus pokus? Teleporting is the most obvious choice as already mentioned. If he can teleport Taa II to any location in the universe then he can move himself too.

The slashes? I see a few ways, the most obvious is to teleport away from the destroyer when it gets in to close, but since you don't think that is in Galactus character, lets ignore that and look at it from a more battle oriented perspective. Galactus have never been afraid to get in and wrestle with his opponents (in h2h though) and have managed that situation quite well, so what I can imagine happen is him trying to get a hold of the arm holding the Odinsword and do what Arishem did and try and melt it, or simply fire a blast straight at the hand so the Destroyer drops it. That I believe would be more in Character for Galactus. *shrug*

to be honest this is a Wheel in a Circus atm, thanks for the debate Quanchi but we might as well accept that neither of us are going to change our opinion. Agree to disagree?

Noooo, this was way too entertaining.

Galactus maul him

Galactus wins this. And I scoff at the idea that Galactus couldn't regenerate his own limbs when the marvel handbook lists "restructuring molecules" as one of many, many his powers.

Galactus wins this, but it will be one hell of a fight.

Galactus ftw.