Living Tribunal with the UN Vs Living Tribunal

Originally posted by galactusischere
But things can be created to decrease the nothingness...

btw no matter how much u make u cant "make everythin" cos theres always "something" left (something like "some nothing" w/e 😑 )

u can erase everything (then Oblivion very happy lol) but u cant create everything

basicly Oblivions raelm can be shrinked but it cant be shrinked to nothing (or to everything) cos that dont make sense lol

Originally posted by galactusischere
No UN>Abraxas>Oblivion.

just like anomolys role doesnt let him get affected by the IG

How is Abraxas going to get hurt by Oblivion? How do u hurt destruction?

Originally posted by galactusischere
How is Abraxas going to get hurt by Oblivion? How do u hurt destruction?

i mlean if death can be erased why not destruction? 😈

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
fair point (iirc Oblivion was even scared of this ^^)
even then all it takes is nulify whats been created & Oblivion gets it back ^^

btw no matter how much u make u cant "make everythin" cos theres always "something" left (something like "some nothing" w/e 😑 )

u can erase everything (then Oblivion very happy lol) but u cant create everything

basicly Oblivions raelm can be shrinked but it cant be shrinked to nothing (or to everything) cos that dont make sense lol

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
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just like anomolys role doesnt let him get affected by the IG [/B]

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
actually oblivion is nothingness but he like all absracts he uses MBodys and that Mbody can be destroyed though he will still always exist. it has been shown that when you see an abstract get "killed" or "destroyed"
its just the mbody, but the abstract would still exist everywhere in the universe spontaniously there would just be no physical way to see it.

Originally posted by galactusischere
How is Abraxas going to get hurt by Oblivion? How do u hurt destruction?

Abraxas was entering universes and by doing so destroying them. Abraxas cannot be nullified. He is more powerful than multi-death/616 death.

Infinity=Oblivion
Eternity=Death
Galactus/Entropy/Phoenix=all those others

Master Order/Lord Chaos=<the above abstracts
Love and Hate<<<Master Order/Lord Chaos

Abraxas>any of them

Originally posted by galactusischere
Abraxas was entering universes and by doing so destroying them. Abraxas cannot be nullified. He is more powerful than multi-death/616 death.

Infinity=Oblivion
Eternity=Death
Galactus/Entropy/Phoenix=all those others

Master Order/Lord Chaos=<the above abstracts
Love and Hate<<<Master Order/Lord Chaos

Abraxas>any of them

infinity=oblivion
but destroy the universe and oblivion swallows her 🙂

Exactly. Why would they differ in power? It doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Exactly. Why would they differ in power? It doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Abraxas cannot be nullified.

I always thought of oblivion as the area beyond space but still within our universe

you know how they say our universe is expanding... Well the confines of the universe contain within it space and unspace...
Space represented by infinity, unspace represented by oblivion
all of it still apart of the universe...

And while there is an eternity who is offset by death
there is also a multi eternity

Originally posted by galactusischere
But why would Oblivion be more poweful than the other abstracts?
Eternity and Death are equal, so why shouldn't Oblivion and Infinity be equal?

Because his domain is larger. Think about it, everything that once exsisted but no longer does belongs to Oblivion, everything since the beginning of time. Eternity only has domain over all that exsists right now.

Things die, and things are destroyed every second of every day, making Oblivions realm larger all the time.

He represents non-exsistance. He can't be destroyed, or nullified. The only way to fight him is to take away from his dominion.

I see, where your going..

but how would you explain this scan?

"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL this -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,

I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the Universes"

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/721892/etpf1.jpg.html

Eternity is multi-faceted? That scan isn't really relevant to the discussion.

Oblivion pre-dates all that, he pre-dates the multiverse.

I know but it says that universes being born, and COLLAPSING in RUIN, and that is only a FRACTION of Eternity.
But when universes collapse, don't they go to Oblivion?

That's what I was asking.

Yes, the same universe doesn't come back. A new universe is born in its place.

All the other abstracts have life spans, Oblivion does. Nothingness is always, it's forever. When the universe collapses, current Infinity will cease to exsist. When all life dies, and time stops; current Eternity will cease to exsist. When all things that can die cease to exsist, current Death will cease to exsist. All will be reborn anew when the new multiverse flares into exsistence. All the while, the same Oblivion will be there, right at the fringe as always.

Alright. Im convinced that Oblivion>other abstracts(minus Abraxas of course)