Goku vs. Pyron vs. Dark Schneider

Originally posted by DBZDefender
In Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan or even in The Return of Cooler Goku is seen in another dimension for a time...i cannot give you a pic but i a would not make a false statement

Movies are non-canon.

Originally posted by DBZDefender
This isnt about doing minor wounds to DS to make him give up lol that would be stupid...majin buu could regenerate and goku obliterated him all at once with a spirit bomb...for DS it either might take less or more

Oh? So how would a spirit bomb destroy DS, when he cannot be truly destroyed by it in the first place? He'll just regenerate.

Originally posted by DBZDefender
ok since those are non-canon ill leave the dimension stuff aside....but i never said that goku would have to do a spirit bomb to defeat DS...he has much other attacks in his arsenal that are of vaporizing matter material

Doesn't matter. DS can regenerate from any physical damage. Even if his physical body is obliterated, he'll still regenerate, for he cannot truly be defeated, not unless his Eternal Atoms are destroyed. Goku doesn't have the ability to destroy those.

Doesn't DS even have a large speed advantage? Both him and Pyron.

how can he regenerate when there is no matter there at all?...and can you inform me more about these "eternal atoms"?...a super kamehameha could do the job as to vaporizing someone completely do to the enourmous amount of condensed ki energy into a wave...but this is irrelevent if i dont know what eternal atoms are...inform me plz

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Goku is a best a galaxy level threat, and that's being generous. Both Pyron and Dark Schneider are universal, if not multiversal, threats. Goku does not have a chance of wining here.

DS isn't multi-versal, he most likely is universal, or lower.

If (anime) Pyron is multi-versal, this is just one big stomp for Pyron.

Originally posted by Kento
Doesn't DS even have a large speed advantage? Both him and Pyron.

how is that?

If (anime) Pyron is multiversal, this is just one big stomp for Pyron. [/B]

isnt (anime) Pyron non-canon?

Originally posted by DBZDefender
how is that?

how is goku far from light speed when his battles as SS3 consist of him being unhittable due to his mastery of IT and speed

and im pretty sure vanishing and appearing behind your opponent in a blink of an eye is considered pretty dang fast lol

Originally posted by Kento
Doesn't DS even have a large speed advantage? Both him and Pyron.

I don't know how speed factors in for Pyron. Also, one quick thing, is this anime Pyron or game Pyron? I have no idea what anime Pyron is capable of, but if it's game Pyron (true form), it's Pyron's victory.

DS is FTL iirc. I can't recall properly though.

Originally posted by DBZDefender
how is that?

Originally posted by DBZDefender
how can he regenerate when there is no matter there at all?...and can you inform me more about these "eternal atoms"?...a super kamehameha could do the job as to vaporizing someone completely do to the enourmous amount of condensed ki energy into a wave...but this is irrelevent if i dont know what eternal atoms are...inform me plz

Erm, basically even if a spiritual being's physical body is destroyed, they'll still regenerate, since they have two bodies that exist on separate planes/dimension. So in order to truly kill/defeat a spiritual being (which DS is), you have to destroy their bodies that are on the other planes. In addition to that, you have to destroy their eternal atoms, which is their true core.

how do you get to these "other planes"? Also it is not (game) Pyron because that would not be allowed in this section of the forum since it is anime/manga only...also you do not know that goku cant move at the speed of light because it is never measured or mentioned its just obvious that goku can since he vanishes and appears at will

Originally posted by DBZDefender
isnt (anime) Pyron non-canon?

Yes, but this is the Anime versus forum, and you have included Pyron in this thread. Therefore, I'm assuming you are using the Anime version. If you are using the Game (Canon) version, he is multi-versal.

so pyron is multi-versal which makes him how big?

Originally posted by DBZDefender
how do you get to these "other planes"? Also it is not (game) Pyron because that would not be allowed in this section of the forum since it is anime/manga only...also you do not know that goku cant move at the speed of light because it is never measured or mentioned its just obvious that goku can since he vanishes and appears at will

All you need to know is that Goku can't. He doesn't possess the ability to destroy the bodies on those two other planes, let alone the 3 atoms of DS. They simply can't be destroyed through physical means.

That's Instant Transmission.

Originally posted by DBZDefender
so pyron is multi-versal which makes him how big?

so is DS immortal?

anyway we'll continue this tommorow cuz i have to sleep

goodnight

ok im back and so far with all the evidence it seems that DS is immortal making him a god of some sort but if im wrong and there is a way he can die than say it...um well pyron we havent been hearing much about so i hope to find more on him and we...this entire time...have been looking at how goku can beat pyron and/or DS but how can they beat goku?

Originally posted by DBZDefender
how is goku far from light speed when his battles as SS3 consist of him being unhittable due to his mastery of IT and speed

Originally posted by DBZDefender
also you do not know that goku cant move at the speed of light because it is never measured or mentioned its just obvious that goku can since he vanishes and appears at will

Originally posted by DBZDefender
and im pretty sure vanishing and appearing behind your opponent in a blink of an eye is considered pretty dang fast lol

Originally posted by DBZDefender
ok im back and so far with all the evidence it seems that DS is immortal making him a god of some sort but if im wrong and there is a way he can die than say it...um well pyron we havent been hearing much about so i hope to find more on him and we...this entire time...have been looking at how goku can beat pyron and/or DS but how can they beat goku?

Goku cannot be a planet buster since frieza blew up a planet in her base form and Goku at SS4 is in a whole other scale of power compared to frieza...and when has it

"Gotanks a character of who is much slower then Goku travels the distance around the world (24,859.82 miles) many times within 4 sec and light is able to travel around the planet about 9 times per second. If Gotanks a much lesser character is able to travel the planet 1/9 light speed, before the discovery of SS4 in DBGT Goku is highly likely to be able to travel faster than the illogical speed of light"

this quote is evidence that goku is in fact faster than light

now tell me how DS is more powerful?

Not sure whats going on but just wanted to add to ^ that Goku can just use instant transmission. Faster then light 😐

thanks bloodrain i need some sort of comrade so we can use both of our knowledge to defend the true power of goku with facts and fanboyism