Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Yeah well, the Warcraft dragons are pretty nasty.
For example, we know that the Master Sword prevents enemies from transforming Link against his will (in this case, dust). But, the rules of this thread allow the dragons to bypass these normal defenses.
Another example is that the Master Sword is time itself and Link is in possession of it, but one of the dragons is able to bypass that via thread rules.
So basically, it would be straight up foolish fanboyism to ignore these things.
Although, I think full power HoT solos this thread. Too bad he isn't a character...
The rule about Nozdormu turning someone to dust. I think we are supposed to focus on the ONE rather than the DUST part. Since it is within his power to turn someone into dust, the rule is a restriction against him rather than something against the non-draconic.
What you need to realize is that Nozdormu is horribly restricted in this thread. Nozdormu's powers span the entire universe. He is not merely a user of time magic. He is master of time and space. He has grasped and held together all of existence. Reality itself has been at his mercy. The name "Nozdormu the Timeless" is not there for no reason. He exist outside time, where he watch over and moderate things.
It is within his power to make a person having never existed. If the Master Sword really is time itself, it is within his control and he can do with it as he will. The only creature above Nozdormu in terms of true power in the world of Warcraft is High Father who created time.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
It's not that. Its because team one has been potently nerfed to be unable to stomp.For example, we know that the Master Sword prevents enemies from transforming Link against his will (in this case, dust). But, the rules of this thread allow the dragons to bypass these normal defenses.
Another example is that the Master Sword is time itself and Link is in possession of it, but one of the dragons is able to bypass that via thread rules.
So basically, it would be straight up foolish fanboyism to ignore these things.Although, I think full power HoT solos this thread. Too bad he isn't a character...
Sounds frighteningly close to a No-Limit Fallacy. "Link has the sword. Therefore he can not be transformed"
I have heard nothing about the Master Sword being time itself, but it's a bad thing if it is. He would have had a better shot if it wasn't. You don't really know who Nozdormu is, do you? Nozdormu cancel the time magic of others because it is within his power to do so. It is not a thread rule. He is the ultimate ruler of time. Rapidash and ArtificialGlory has already mentioned that Nozdormu is the master of time itself. Master of time itself > Time itself.
I picked HoT Link because that was the only Link profiled on the KMC wiki. If there is no such a thing as a Hero of Time, blame the creator of that article.
Shiek says in OoT, "As long as you hold the Master Sword, you hold Time itself in your hands." Time belongs to Link.
Also, the OoT holds the powers of the goddess of time, allowing complete control.
As for the transformation nullification, TP presents a clear demonstration. The mere presence of the Sword dispels permanent curses. That isn't even Link touching it.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Shiek says in OoT, "As long as you hold the Master Sword, you hold Time itself in your hands." Time belongs to Link.
Also, the OoT holds the powers of the goddess of time, allowing complete control.As for the transformation nullification, TP presents a clear demonstration. The mere presence of the Sword dispels permanent curses. That isn't even Link touching it.
How reliable a source is Shiek then? Did he help with the creation of the sword, did he read it in a book, or does he know it through some mystical means?
Nozdormu is the God of Time if we want to be technical, but you shouldn't throw titles around so readily. Titles are insignificant. Deathwing is the Aspect of Death. Lich King is the God of Death. Alexstrasza is the Aspect of Life. Their titles imply that they have complete control over Life and Death, but that doesn't mean they do. Being the Goddess of Time changes nothing, so I assume there's a deeper reason to why you bring that up.
No-Limit Fallacious argument.
Sheik is Zelda, of whom the game is named after <_<
The 7th and leader of the sages, Zelda, is the most reliable source in the game aside from Ganondorf himself.
The word "god" is so watered down here, so you seem to have noticed. Let's just say that for this thread, both are immune to the others time powers.
I know who Sheik is, but to my memory she used magic to switch gender, thus' I say "He" because that's what "she" is. I could be wrong on the gender switch though. The fact that the game is named after her is irrelevant (Why in the world did you decide to bring that up?)
Yes, but how reliable is the "most reliable"? How did she attain this information? Was she told by a guy who was told by a guy? Did she read it? Did she simply know it? Even a sage can misinterpret.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
So what is Link's best feat with time? Even if it's true and not a hyperbole that the Master Sword is time itself, it won't matter when the master of time itself comes and takes away your fancy toys.
His (Hero of Time Link) only feats with time is playing his ocarina to move a day ahead, slowing down the day, and going back 3 days earlier.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Link is the Master of Time in his universe, so its sort of silly to assume that a dragon called the master of time can override a universe whose entire game was crafted around the concept of time.Also, you guys do realize that your whole argument is, "Your game is lying.", right?
So what has Link ever really done to establish himself as such? I mean, he must be one crappy master if he allows all these things to happen.