Stryfe vs. Exodus.

Xavier? When? Where? I thought Xavier was above Stryfe.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
I thought Xavier was above Stryfe.

About raw power, no.

Originally posted by Xplosive
About raw power, no.

Xavier should be more telepathically skilled, but Xavier has less telepathic raw power.

Stryfe is vary skilled if you consider that he was taught how to use his powers, by Madame Sanctity. He had a proper upbringing.

Stryfe took over Xavier’s mind in “Gambit & Bishop: Sons of the Atom”.

Do you happen to have the scan?
Is that a trade paperback? WHere can I buy it?

I thought Apoc. trained him to use his powers?
Apoc. abused him, so he did not have a proper upbringing. That is why he is the way he is. His head is wrecked with strife. Therefore he likes to create strife.

Yes apocalypse trained Stryfe for the first part of his life. After his death, Stryfe comes across Madame Sanctity (the head Mistress of Askani). I would say he had a proper upbringing in developing his mutagenic powers, surpassed only by Cable.

The mind controlling feat is found in the Stryfe respect thread.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t483653.html

Here is the actual reference of the mind controlling feat. It was not easy BTW, but you find out later it was Stryfe. He was also mind fooling Gambit, Bishop, and Nightcrawler.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/386/gambitbishopsota00110tc5.jpg

exodus has greater telekinesis feats

oddly enough, stryfe is no nate even though he should be close (sinister created a better clone than apocalypse)

Yeah Exodus has better displays of TK. Stryfe has better display of TP.

But really in terms of relative power, I think its close. This would be a tough match, and a brutal one. Neither likes to hold back.

in your opinion, could stryfe dig deep if he was in trouble [fighting stryfe] and show some nate type power?

that would be a tipping point if you use average or current exodus, bloodties would eat stryfe for brunch.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
This is "Bloodties" Exodus.

sow-ee

make more cool match ups smurph nao

i feel like repping underdogs

Originally posted by psycho gundam
oddly enough, stryfe is no nate even though he should be close (sinister created a better clone than apocalypse)

Yes, but Stryfe is not burning out either. I think it is likely he has either been genetically modified to prevent this or maybe mental blocks have been put in place to limit his power. I would guess telekinesis is harder on the body than telepathy so this may explain why he seems better in one department than the other. When did he receive the upgraded strength btw? Could he have been modified in other ways at the same time perhaps?

touche.

x-man was made to be the anti-apocalypse by sinister, which means he is stryfe + more at the end of the day.

exodus in bloodties was amped to high heaven, he was multi-tasking telekinesis/telepathy at a high level all at once and doing it with style.

yeah, exodus shitstomps here

actually, sersi's performance might be like stryfe's posible performance. maybe. whatever. it's late

Exodus struggled with Holocaust. Next to Bloodties, that was one of the more spectacular fights. It would be no different with Stryfe.

Both wield the same kind of power.

They are most likely around the same level.

Difference is we know Exodus own limits. We have yet to see the full extant of Stryfe abilities, besides team wrecking the X-Force or X-Men.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
sow-ee

make more cool match ups smurph nao

Originally posted by psycho gundam
exodus has greater telekinesis feats

oddly enough, stryfe is no nate even though he should be close (sinister created a better clone than apocalypse)

I think it is personality. He is the Chaos Bringer, not the Chaos itself. He chooses to inflict as much pain on people, while using the least amount of power. Stryfe may actually be smart in the fact that he knows if he uses his full power, he would burn out.

Furthermore, Stryfe holding himself and others on the Moon is a very impressive telekinetic feat. Stopping a bullet in mid air is also impressive. I don't think that even Exodus can do that.

Regarding Exodus vs. Holocaust: Exodus could have just used telepathy since Holocaust is vulnerable to telepathy. Also, I firmly believe that Stryfe's TK would be too much for Holocaust.

Are there any other story lines, in which Stryfe appears, other than X-Cutioner's Song and Messiah War?

In other words, any other trade paperbacks?

True Exodus could have ended the match with TP alone, against Holocaust. But he didn’t, and instead they slugged it out. I am using it as a point of reference, to point out how Exodus stands up to characters in his tier.

The reason I bring it up is because, Stryfe is equally as powerful as Holocaust if not more. A TP battle against Stryfe could go in favor of Stryfe.

Originally posted by "Id"
True Exodus could have ended the match with TP alone, against Holocaust. But he didn’t, and instead they slugged it out. I am using it as a point of reference, to point out how Exodus stands up to characters in his tier.

The reason I bring it up is because, Stryfe is equally as powerful as Holocaust if not more. A TP battle against Stryfe could go in favor of Stryfe.

If Stryfe was able to telepathically defeat Xavier, then all he has to do is beat Exodus with his telepathy. Their TK are almost even.

As powerful as Exodus is, he was legitimately afraid to fight Sinister WITH backup. Makes me wonder where that puts Essex compared to both of these two.