Link Vs. Nozdormu

It being an item is irrelevant. The item has an ability and the ability present a No-Limit of not being detectable. That is just one of the fallacies you have brought up in this thread.

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol relax 5L......

Link and Noz draw....Nozdormu dies...so does Link eventually unless he has a way of hiding from Noz forever.

He does not have a way of hiding for an instant, it turns out.

So, what do you suggest the function of the Stone Mask is if the original use is too unfair?

Well, I suggest unto you the Magic cape, making Link invincible, invisible, and intangible, rendering the sandstorm useless at the very least.

Some items and abilities used in-game can't be used in versus. It's as simple as that. Something many on this forum need to get into their heads.

Two additional No-Limit Fallacies.

So, you believe that since items are used to augment Link's strength as a character, they aren't inherent abilities and therefore do not count as his own powers?

i think its only consistent canon items that are allowed in for a character. For example the master sword.

And what about items that affect dialogue and the story and not just gameplay?

Depends what they are I guess, if their important plot elements that other characters speak about then its probably canon. But if their not consistent, then Link does not get them.

Thing is, apprently Link is a different person in every game, so it doesnt matter what he happens to get his hands on (unless the same old item is also part of this game like the MS) then chances are he does not have it.

Take Kain for example, he has a lot of spells that he collects but the developers do not give him the same ones in all his games even if canonically he would have them. I could rightfully argue in a thread that them just not appearing in that game or being accessable to the player does not mean Kain suddenly forgot that spell, or lost that item BUT in Links case, this is possible because apprently in every game, Link is a different guy with the same name.

(I guess you could very loosely argue that some of his items may have been let down in generation to generation, and that he has some of the old links items because they were kept by for him)

Originally posted by LLLLLink
So, you believe that since items are used to augment Link's strength as a character, they aren't inherent abilities and therefore do not count as his own powers?

Link is not part of the equation. It's proper debating to take such things in consideration.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
And what about items that affect dialogue and the story and not just gameplay?

You don't seem to get the point.

And this brings us to the timeline debate. In-game evidence shows some serious unforgivable flaws in the idea that there is continuity, but the developers say otherwise.
Zelda continuity is a joke.

What point is that Q'Anilia? Please don't beat around the bush.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
A shame. I guess 10 Link threads all filled with the same information it is, then.

Can Nozdormu react or think fast enough to dodge an arrow that can reach the sun in under two seconds (aka faster than light)?
And as for the no limit fallacies, are you suggesting that we should just pretend that the items don't have any function at all?

Link shoots arrows faster than light now?

Faster than light is not faster than time

Faster than time? How fast is time?

If that feat exists then its a "lolthisisfun4playerz" feat not a "webigdeveloperscalculatedphysics4thispowah"

Originally posted by Burning thought
"webigdeveloperscalculatedphysics4thispowah"

Originally posted by LLLLLink
And this brings us to the timeline debate. In-game evidence shows some serious unforgivable flaws in the idea that there is continuity, but the developers say otherwise.
Zelda continuity is a joke.

What point is that Q'Anilia? Please don't beat around the bush.

The point is that what rules that apply the Zelda game universe does by no means necessarily apply to the Warcraft game universe and vice versa. You unfortunately lack the ability to tell functional accomplishes apart from Zelda restricted accomplishments.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Faster than time? How fast is time?

You don't think that's just a little gameplay mechanic to get it? I mean the strength it would take to do that and this was Link before the gauntlets. He can not shoot arrows FTL, if he did then Ganondorf would never ever see an arrow coming it would hit him and the opponents before they could even move.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Faster than time? How fast is time?

So you're saying that light is potentially faster than time?

If you can control time, speed is irrelevent. Time is a factor for calculating speed, if Nozdormu controls one of those factors then he can make something move as fast or as slow as he wants it.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
So you're saying that light is potentially faster than time?

Uh, no. When did I ever make that statement?

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
The point is that what rules that apply the Zelda game universe does by no means necessarily apply to the Warcraft game universe and vice versa. You unfortunately lack the ability to tell functional accomplishes apart from Zelda restricted accomplishments.